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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    cheaper to produce and costs doesnt make it better. so what you're saying is that hd-dvd is in fact inferior in every way?

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    cheaper to produce and costs doesnt make it better. so what you're saying is that hd-dvd is in fact inferior in every way?
    VC1, and finalized better specs?? and yes, cheaper to produce makes it better.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    you said both use vc1, and they're cheaper to produce because their inferior products, that doesnt make it better.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    you said both use vc1, and they're cheaper to produce because their inferior products, that doesnt make it better.
    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    what exactly is the benefit of hd-dvd over blu-ray that made them feel the technology was needed?
    Bluray adapted, both using VC1 was not always the case. Your original question implied bluray was always superior and there was no need for another format, but bluray only got to where it was because of the competition from hd-dvd. And cost does make it better. If you're introducing new technology, you'll want the one that's most likely to make it to the mass market faster, not necessarily the one with the most features. The cheapest usually wins, not the one with the best specs. You're looking at it from a techie's perspective, I'm looking at it from Toshiba's, ie back to your original question what "made them feel the technology was needed?" hd-dvd was winning by a good margin prior to the release of the ps3. How would Toshiba know Sony would drop all their profits from the ps1/ps2 era, buy a movie studio (MGM) to win?

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Real Racers use Gran Turismo 5 to train?

    I'm not surprised, lol

    http://digg.com/playstation/Real_Racers ... o_To_Train

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Real Racers use Gran Turismo 5 to train?

    I'm not surprised, lol

    http://digg.com/playstation/Real_Racers ... o_To_Train
    Oh my god I've never seen that done before.

    Wait yes I have.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Real Racers use Gran Turismo 5 to train?

    I'm not surprised, lol

    http://digg.com/playstation/Real_Racers ... o_To_Train
    Oh my god I've never seen that done before.

    Wait yes I have.

    I guess the same applies when the drivers use Forza to practice.

    Oh wait they don't.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Real Racers use Gran Turismo 5 to train?

    I'm not surprised, lol

    http://digg.com/playstation/Real_Racers ... o_To_Train
    Oh my god I've never seen that done before.

    Wait yes I have.

    I guess the same applies when the drivers use Forza to practice.

    Oh wait they don't.
    lol.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    Real Racers use Gran Turismo 5 to train?

    I'm not surprised, lol

    http://digg.com/playstation/Real_Racers ... o_To_Train
    Oh my god I've never seen that done before.

    Wait yes I have.

    I guess the same applies when the drivers use Forza to practice.

    Oh wait they don't.
    You're right, I guess this means GT5 will be pushing lots of PS3's!

    (lol I think you know what's coming....)

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    lol console wars!
    http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...getavsgoku.jpg



    I bet you, wait... I guarantee you, GT5 will push 5-10 times the consoles Forza did.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    CES 2008 is being an awesome electronics extravagnza

    PSP to play Blu-Ray Movies...... LOL

    The concept of copying a lower-resolution version of a film from a packaged media disc to a portable device is not new--in fact, late last year, Fox and Warner released the first standard definition titles to offer this capability (on Live Free, Die Hard and Harry Potter: The Order of the Phoenix, respectively).

    Sony today demonstrated the next level of disc copying. At the company's booth at CES, Sony demonstrated how you could put a Blu-ray Disc movie into a Playstation 3 and copy the film to a Playstation Portable or a Memory Stick. "This way, you can have a portable copy you can take with you," explains David Bishop, president of Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

    "There was always the promise of greater interactivity. You'll see that coming in the new year," Bishop added. In addition to the PSP copying example, Sony also demonstrated how you could download ring tones and new content to a BD Live player, using Men in Black as the example.

    BD Live is proving to be a big catchphrase at the show: Panasonic announced its BD Live player yesterday, Fox showcased an early version of its Alien vs. Predator multiplayer game at the Blu-ray Disc Association's booth, and Sony showed its interactive Men in Black trivia game. The game was being played by two people in two locations on a Playstation 3.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterio
    lol console wars!
    http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...getavsgoku.jpg



    I bet you, wait... I guarantee you, GT5 will push 5-10 times the consoles Forza did.
    Just like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, and Unreal Tournament were all supposed to do? Come on now lol.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    gotta say that bluray movie to psp thing is pretty spiffy, guess they realize how umd has 1 foot in the grave.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    gotta say that bluray movie to psp thing is pretty spiffy, guess they realize how umd has 1 foot in the grave.
    Agreed, that does look really cool. I think it's a great feature for the PSP, I could just rent movies and put them all on my PSP, but how big are the Bluray files?

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    The idea of watching movie on a portable console was retarded and is still retarded. It's something that will never be conveniant to do.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    im guessing they'll still be large but it'll compress the Bluray into a reasonable size for the psp, with some quality loss most likely, and you'll probably need a large memory stick to be able to do it.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Im assuming that Sony's announcemnet of a 16GB PSP stick wasnt coincidencial then. Also rumors of a 60GB PSP HD as well.
    http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/006194.html says that theyll just embed a smaller low quality version in the disk, instead of using the actual version

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Agreed, that does look really cool. I think it's a great feature for the PSP, I could just rent movies and put them all on my PSP, but how big are the Bluray files?
    Some are ~22GB, but most average somewhere between 36-44GB.

    Psp can't handle 1080p or high quality sound anyways, so of course there will be downgrading.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    TOKYO, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Paramount studios is poised to drop its support of the high-definition DVD (HD DVD) format after Warner Bros studio said it would back the competing Blu-ray format, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday.

    The loss of support from Paramount, which is owned by Viacom Inc (VIAb.N: Quote, Profile, Research), would likely deal the final blow to the HD DVD format backed by Toshiba Corp (6502.T: Quote, Profile, Research) and put an end to the format war, the newspaper said on its Web site.

    Time Warner Inc's (TWX.N: Quote, Profile, Research) Warner Bros studio on Friday said it would exclusively release high-definition DVDs in Sony Corp's (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) Blu-ray format, marking a major setback to the HD DVD camp. [ID:nN04446354]

    Blu-ray discs outsold HD DVD by nearly two-to-one in the United States last year, but HD DVD had secured major allies in August when Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc said they would go exclusively with HD DVD.

    But Paramount is understood to have a clause in its contract with the HD DVD camp that would allow it to change sides if Warner Bros backed Blu-ray, the Financial Times said, citing people familiar with the situation.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssCons ... 1820080108

    This formar war came at a very high cost for Sony (their videogames division i.e forcing blu ray into consumers via PS3)

    But hey
    PS one = CD rom
    PS2 = DVD
    PS3 = Blu ray

    At some point it's time to move forward.

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