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[Elcura]

Technically, the 360 and PS3 have far inferior controllers. 360 or PS3 marketed like the Wii still wouldn't do as well as the Wii is doing because they lack the technology that makes it so attractive in the first place. Technology isn't just processing power and graphics.

Speak accurately

How is that so? The Wiimote is not exactly advanced, and as control goes it isn't exactly the best thing. It's a few buttons with some motion sensing, which hasn't been used in a way that makes me feel the Wii is the breakthrough it was sought out to be. I mean, PS3 has motion sensing to a degree, quite a few games use it as well as the Wii uses it's motion sensing, I fail to see how control methods make it technologically more advanced when the PS3 can do basically the same thing.

I mean, are you really going to shit on a control standard used for like, 20 years? There is absolutely nothing wrong with control pads, prefer ed even in some gaming genres, Wiimote isn't the end all remote.

It's not the technology that made the Wii the success it was, it was how they advertised and marketed it. Look at the adverts, the press releases, the name, everything about the Wii's release and advertising was done right.

[SephYuyX]

Well.. I guess there goes the chances of seeing Rare titles on VC :/
Time to buy a 360 :|
http://kotaku.com/342745/rumor-goldeney ... ng-to-xbla

But maybe since it says a deal was worked out with EVERYONE (if Nintendo still has anything to do with it), it may appear on the Wii too ;-;?


Also, whats this mention of a new Goldeneye being made??

[Xavier]

If Nintendo had any rights at all to the property (I don't know if they retained anything), then who knows.

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Even if its not cutting edge technology, the Wii-mote is at the very least -different- than what the competition is offering, and in the eyes of the average consumer that makes it special hardware. The argument being made is that the wii-mote appears advanced compared to the 360/PS3 controller to the consumer, in the same way that the 360/PS3 graphics look advanced in comparison to the Wii. It just so happens that the controller was more of a selling point to consumers than graphics, in combination with universal marketing and games that are easy to pick up and play.

For most people, their perception of something represents their reality, regardless of the actual fact. Consumers perceive the Wii controller as innovative and fun, and thus it is.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Technically, the 360 and PS3 have far inferior controllers. 360 or PS3 marketed like the Wii still wouldn't do as well as the Wii is doing because they lack the technology that makes it so attractive in the first place. Technology isn't just processing power and graphics.

Speak accurately

How is that so? The Wiimote is not exactly advanced, and as control goes it isn't exactly the best thing. It's a few buttons with some motion sensing, which hasn't been used in a way that makes me feel the Wii is the breakthrough it was sought out to be. I mean, PS3 has motion sensing to a degree, quite a few games use it as well as the Wii uses it's motion sensing, I fail to see how control methods make it technologically more advanced when the PS3 can do basically the same thing.

I mean, are you really going to shit on a control standard used for like, 20 years? There is absolutely nothing wrong with control pads, prefer ed even in some gaming genres, Wiimote isn't the end all remote.

It's not the technology that made the Wii the success it was, it was how they advertised and marketed it. Look at the adverts, the press releases, the name, everything about the Wii's release and advertising was done right.

THE WIIMOTE TECHNOLOGY IS NOT IN THE 360 AND PS3 AND THEREFORE THE WII HAS TECHNOLOGY THE 360 AND PS3 DON'T HAVE.

Maybe caps will make it easier to understand, it's not exactly a complex concept. I'm not shitting on an old controller, just because it's an older technology doesn't mean it's worse... that's your implication, not mine.

btw Wii Sports is probably what made the Wii so successful and it is 100% reliant on the Wiimote's features that the other consoles don't have. The commercials inform, but Wii Sports is what made people want to play.

For most people, their perception of something represents their reality, regardless of the actual fact. Consumers perceive the Wii controller as innovative and fun, and thus it is.

For ALL people perception shapes reality. Don't think anyone is above that

A lot of the perception of it being innovative and fun is because they have never played with anything like it and had fun doing it.

[Exoduso]

Banjo was a great game lol.

[BRP]

Wii's success promotes popularity in lower-quality games(CAUSALAH). Basically until now games have slowly been moving into a position where it would be respect like other media. Nintendo is basically saying "NOPE LOL, MONEY INSTEAD PLEASE".

I seriously couldn't give a shit about sales since games like Madden '0Sameshitaslastyear and Assassin's Creed will top the charts anyway, but people saying Nintendo is helping the game industry by adding new people are full of it. What they might end up doing is create a trend that slows gaming's growth. I don't even care about the future right now, Wii pretty much goes out its way to say fuck you to anyone who can handle something more than mini gaems.

tl;dr: Nintendo sold out.


EDIT: May I add the only good games out for the Wii right now are light-gun games or could have came out on the Gamecube.

[Elcura]

Technically, the 360 and PS3 have far inferior controllers. 360 or PS3 marketed like the Wii still wouldn't do as well as the Wii is doing because they lack the technology that makes it so attractive in the first place. Technology isn't just processing power and graphics.

Speak accurately

How is that so? The Wiimote is not exactly advanced, and as control goes it isn't exactly the best thing. It's a few buttons with some motion sensing, which hasn't been used in a way that makes me feel the Wii is the breakthrough it was sought out to be. I mean, PS3 has motion sensing to a degree, quite a few games use it as well as the Wii uses it's motion sensing, I fail to see how control methods make it technologically more advanced when the PS3 can do basically the same thing.

I mean, are you really going to shit on a control standard used for like, 20 years? There is absolutely nothing wrong with control pads, prefer ed even in some gaming genres, Wiimote isn't the end all remote.

It's not the technology that made the Wii the success it was, it was how they advertised and marketed it. Look at the adverts, the press releases, the name, everything about the Wii's release and advertising was done right.

THE WIIMOTE TECHNOLOGY IS NOT IN THE 360 AND PS3 AND THEREFORE THE WII HAS TECHNOLOGY THE 360 AND PS3 DON'T HAVE.

Maybe caps will make it easier to understand, it's not exactly a complex concept. I'm not shitting on an old controller, just because it's an older technology doesn't mean it's worse... that's your implication, not mine.

btw Wii Sports is probably what made the Wii so successful and it is 100% reliant on the Wiimote's features that the other consoles don't have. The commercials inform, but Wii Sports is what made people want to play.

Although I said "basically the same" I would have thought that you would have understood that I didn't mean the same, I didn't even mean close to being the same. The wording on that was an error on my part.

You seemed to assume a lot in my first post, where I said the PS3, with good marketing/advertising would have (obvious) done well. Nowhere did I say it would = Nintendo level success.

I know that already that the technology is not the same. This all started when you said that "technically" the PS3/360 remotes are inferior, where I heartily disagree. No shit it's not the same, but it certainly isn't inferior. All I was trying to say is that the PS3 at least has something similar, that used right makes it a great medium for playing games. SIMILAR TECHNOLOGY. A remote can only be as good as the game you're playing after all. The novelty of waving your arm around wears off fast, so in the end it doesn't matter if you have to wave your arm up and down to do something or press a button, in the end it's all the same, the level of interactivity comes from how involved you feel in a game, waving your arms around may help to a degree but in the end the game determines how much you take from the experience, no control method will change that

And in the first place, you called the PS3/360's control methods inferior, a control method used for years. What does one assume? I may have come to that conclusion on my own, but you didn't exactly say it in a way that I could take otherwise.

edit: as for the people think it is, therefore it is so aspect. I think that's bullshit. People think the most mundane crap is worth buying, shit is still shit, no matter how many people think differently, just because everyone else has lower standards doesn't mean you should also lower yourself. Looking at the Wii's library, I think it's obvious that the majority of people who play the Wii have no idea what a good game is.

[Anderian]

Hmm, this wasn't quite what I had in mind when I posted that article. It wasn't to start a new debate on which console sucks less (because let's face it, they all have their flaws...) but rather to reflect on the past to have a better understand which direction we are going to in this console generation. Because it's seems that the fact that gaming is becoming mainstream is actually mutating the industry into something completely different.
I mean, practically all the games coming out these days are being dumbed down now, all in the interest of "getting everyone to play"... and apparently selling simple games is profitable these days, more so than pouring millions in to original games that don't have a license to ride on.
If this becomes commonplace, then I guess next generation we'll all be waving Wii-motes, Play-motes and X-motes and playing Puzzle and fitness games because big companies will realize that they'll make better profit than million dollar budget FPSs. And then PopCap buys EA. And hell freezes over.

[Elcura]

Hmm, this wasn't quite what I had in mind when I posted that article. It wasn't to start a new debate on which console sucks less (because let's face it, they all have their flaws...) but rather to reflect on the past to have a better understand which direction we are going to in this console generation. Because it's seems that the fact that gaming is becoming mainstream is actually mutating the industry into something completely different.
I mean, practically all the games coming out these days are being dumbed down now, all in the interest of "getting everyone to play"... and apparently selling simple games is profitable these days, more so than pouring millions in to original games that don't have a license to ride on.
If this becomes commonplace, then I guess next generation we'll all be waving Wii-motes, Play-motes and X-motes and playing Puzzle and fitness games because big companies will realize that they'll make better profit than million dollar budget FPSs. And then PopCap buys EA. And hell freezes over.

Wow, that sounds like some sort of apocalypse. The day that happens will be terrible indeed...and honestly, I can see that happening.

[ertyu]

So I'm finally caving and buying a PS3 only i'm not so sure which model to get so I have some questions... which models are region free? If the 40 gig is region free then I'm set, if only the 60 is then I have to do some tracking down. Halp

[Mysterio]

I've been preaching this for over a year now.


The wii-tards are ruining the industry.

[Kazen]

I'm almost positive the PS3 in general is region free, all models. I'd go with the 60 or 80 gig version though because of the upscaler for ps1/ps2 games.

[Kaylia]

Hmm, this wasn't quite what I had in mind when I posted that article. It wasn't to start a new debate on which console sucks less (because let's face it, they all have their flaws...) but rather to reflect on the past to have a better understand which direction we are going to in this console generation. Because it's seems that the fact that gaming is becoming mainstream is actually mutating the industry into something completely different.
I mean, practically all the games coming out these days are being dumbed down now, all in the interest of "getting everyone to play"... and apparently selling simple games is profitable these days, more so than pouring millions in to original games that don't have a license to ride on.
If this becomes commonplace, then I guess next generation we'll all be waving Wii-motes, Play-motes and X-motes and playing Puzzle and fitness games because big companies will realize that they'll make better profit than million dollar budget FPSs. And then PopCap buys EA. And hell freezes over.

Wow, that sounds like some sort of apocalypse. The day that happens will be terrible indeed...and honestly, I can see that happening.

I doubt it will happen. Those games might be more profitable than other, but market would quickly become saturate with them. There will always be a place for conventional game since there will always people buying them.

[Mysterio]

They have 100 gig blu-rays as well.

And someone earlier mentioned that new holograph disc thingy with 3.8 terrabytes of storage.

It may succeed blu-ray in 10 years who knows

[Elcura]

Hmm, this wasn't quite what I had in mind when I posted that article. It wasn't to start a new debate on which console sucks less (because let's face it, they all have their flaws...) but rather to reflect on the past to have a better understand which direction we are going to in this console generation. Because it's seems that the fact that gaming is becoming mainstream is actually mutating the industry into something completely different.
I mean, practically all the games coming out these days are being dumbed down now, all in the interest of "getting everyone to play"... and apparently selling simple games is profitable these days, more so than pouring millions in to original games that don't have a license to ride on.
If this becomes commonplace, then I guess next generation we'll all be waving Wii-motes, Play-motes and X-motes and playing Puzzle and fitness games because big companies will realize that they'll make better profit than million dollar budget FPSs. And then PopCap buys EA. And hell freezes over.

Wow, that sounds like some sort of apocalypse. The day that happens will be terrible indeed...and honestly, I can see that happening.

I doubt it will happen. Those games might be more profitable than other, but market would quickly become saturate with them. There will always be a place for conventional game since there will always people buying them.

Yeah, but the day mini-games and puzzle games become more abundant isn't far off at all. Hopefully oversaturation hits soon and hits hard then after that wave no one will really care hugely about them and it can be business as usual.

But still, a huge wave of shit is about to hit lol, I imagine.

[Mysterio]

But still, a huge wave of shit is about to hit lol, I imagine.

I've got my hardcore gamer umbrella ready

[Parshias]

ITT: BAWWWWing.

Because the Wii has completely destroyed all the development of hardcore games, and the only way to advance in the gaming industry is to spend millions of dollars on bloom and shootan.

[Mysterio]

we need somewhere to complain, right?

[Deejay]

But still, a huge wave of shit is about to hit lol, I imagine.

I've got my hardcore gamer umbrella ready

The Wii isn't going to have an overabundance of shitty games any more than the PS2 did. I really have no idea what you guys are whining about.

[Maxxthepenguin]

But still, a huge wave of shit is about to hit lol, I imagine.

I've got my hardcore gamer umbrella ready

The Wii isn't going to have an overabundance of shitty games any more than the PS2 did. I really have no idea what you guys are whining about.

NINTENDO IS SELLING OUT AND DESTROYING EVERYTHING DONT YOU GET IT