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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by izembo
    well then why do you care, the 360 isnt any different. and honestly playing music while in games and losing the game music/sound is retarded anyways. just mute the game and turn on your stereo/computer if you want that.
    You don't lose the sound lol. You still get all the sound effects that are in the game, only you hear your music in the background.

    And for the record, I don't care. But if someone is going to make it out like the PS3 is somehow a personal media center, i'm going to ask how/why. He made it seem like the PS3 was something special...

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    people will always overhype their system, what can ya do =/

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    who cares what console is the best, you know you're just going to own all of them eventually anyways. Owning all 3 ftw!

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by ertyu
    who cares what console is the best, you know you're just going to own all of them eventually anyways. Owning all 3 ftw!
    this is truth, by the end of 2008 I will own all 3 :D

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by ertyu
    who cares what console is the best, you know you're just going to own all of them eventually anyways. Owning all 3 ftw!
    YOU MEAN 4, DONT FORGET THE Vii

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Im actually quite surpised on how well the PSP is selling now. It used to sell like 10 a week, now it's like 100k or so. Just goes to show what FF can do to a system.. and monster hunter helps too I guess.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Im actually quite surpised on how well the PSP is selling now. It used to sell like 10 a week, now it's like 100k or so. Just goes to show what FF can do to a system.. and monster hunter helps too I guess.
    Dont forget the Star ocean 1 and 2 remakes coming out, its really popular in japan.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora
    Nintendo has always led the portable gaming sector and there has never been a serious contender, until now.
    I'd hesitate to call it a serious contender when its consistently outsold by at least 2:1, but at least it hasn't been a complete failure.
    Will it over take Nintendo's territory any time soon? I doubt it, but I'm sure as hell it's giving them a run for its money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora
    Nintendo has always led the portable gaming sector and there has never been a serious contender, until now. Although the PSP might not be the leader for obvious reasons atm, the PSP is standing where the others lay dead. I wouldn't diss it.

    Anyways, regarding the PS3, I've always thought Sony's master plan was to introduce more than a gaming console, and they gave us a media centre. Yeah, some gamers can't afford it or didn't want it, etc. etc. but phase one is now complete. Let's see what awaits for phase two.

    Blu is the King, All hail Blu.
    I love how everyone assumes that since Microsoft supported HD-DVD, it means they can't put a Blu-Ray addon to th xbox. Lawl.
    Yeah that's fine and dandy, but where did I say that? Come on mate, if you are going to refute one of my arguments, at least do so for existing ones, don't come up with your own shit (straw man).

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    And what's this talk of a PS3 being the "personal media centre." lol? Does PSN allow you to rent/buy movies and TV shows in 1080p? Can you demo 90% of the games on the system? Will it be getting IPTV (new TiVo) like 360 will? Can it play music from your I-pod while playing games?
    Now you are just begging the question man (half assed). You are asking something that the PS3 can't do at the moment, and made it as the whole basis of your argument lol. Try again.

    Anyways, here:

    • Blu Ray Player (1080p native), check[/*:m:1d7tuc9l]
    • Dvd Player, check[/*:m:1d7tuc9l]
    • Cd player, check[/*:m:1d7tuc9l]
    • Super Audio cd, hey it's thrown in there too, check[/*:m:1d7tuc9l]
    • Dolby TrueHD, check[/*:m:1d7tuc9l]
    • Codescs to play different media formats, check[/*:m:1d7tuc9l]
    • Remote play, to play your music, view pics, etc. etc. check (I personally love this shit)[/*:m:1d7tuc9l]
    • This shit (mine at least) plays PS1, PS2, and PS3 gaems![/*:m:1d7tuc9l]


    From all the 3 game consoles available, this is the one that offers more multifunctionality for the regular consumer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    I mean, other than it being a cheap Blu-Ray player, what's so special about it?
    Read above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    So what you're saying is, it's not the "personal media centre" that you PS3 fanboy's keep making it out to be? See, this is what I don't get. You don't see 360 fans making (bullshit) claims like that.
    Read again, and where did I make any bullshit? Go check my unedited post and point out my "bullshit." That being said, you are labeling me of being a "fanboy"? Come on dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    And for the record, I don't care. But if someone is going to make it out like the PS3 is somehow a personal media center, i'm going to ask how/why. He made it seem like the PS3 was something special...
    I'm just going to call you a liar. Of course you care, if you didn't, you wouldn't have taken the time to write that. To answer your last question, I already explained my reasoning. By all means, analyze all my counter arguments and point out the errors in reasoning. Peace ('-')v

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora
    Nintendo has always led the portable gaming sector and there has never been a serious contender, until now.
    I'd hesitate to call it a serious contender when its consistently outsold by at least 2:1, but at least it hasn't been a complete failure.
    Will it over take Nintendo's territory any time soon? I doubt it, but I'm sure as hell it's giving them a run for its money.
    Frankly, I don't know how selling 3.82 million PSPs compared to 8.5 million DSs, in America, in 2007, is giving them a run for their money. Especially when 27 of the top 30 handheld games (in terms of sales) were on a Nintendo system (DS/GBA).

    Are the PSP sales shitty, no. Are they cause for concern to Nintendo, haha, hell no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora
    From all the 3 game consoles available, this is the one that offers more multifunctionality for the regular consumer.
    I somehow doubt the regular consumer is going to know their system does even half of that.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    Im actually quite surpised on how well the PSP is selling now. It used to sell like 10 a week, now it's like 100k or so. Just goes to show what FF can do to a system.. and monster hunter helps too I guess.
    Dont forget the Star ocean 1 and 2 remakes coming out, its really popular in japan.
    The ability to be hacked is the only thing that saved the PSP. Literally for two years the only good game for it was Lumines. It's selling "decent" now because good games are finally being released for it.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    The PSP is only good if you slap a custom firmware on it... otherwise DS 4tw. Then again I have both with a supercard/custom firmware, sooo.. >.>

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    * Blu Ray Player (1080p native), check
    * Dvd Player, check
    * Cd player, check
    * Super Audio cd, hey it's thrown in there too, check
    * Dolby TrueHD, check
    * Codescs to play different media formats, check
    * Remote play, to play your music, view pics, etc. etc. check (I personally love this shit)
    * This shit (mine at least) plays PS1, PS2, and PS3 gaems!
    I asked what made the system special

    My Sega Saturn can play CD's, what the fuck? Who cares?
    My Ps2 is a DVD player, again, who cares?
    "Super Audio"? Wut?
    Dolby TrueHD? Most of the PS3 and 360 games aren't even native 1080p. It's as true as Jenna Jameson's breasts.

    General public (including posters here) could give a fuck about the crap you just posted.

    Your list sucks, lol.

    Edit:
    Wow lol, i'm still taken back at what you just said. I ask what makes the PS3 so good and you have the audacity to list "IT PLAYS CD'S!"

    Seriously....that's cute.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    360 doesn't really have that many awesome extra features either... they're just extra stuff, shouldn't judge your purchase based on them. (except for the bluray part which IS a cheap alternative compared to the other BD players.)

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Frankly, I don't know how selling 3.82 million PSPs compared to 8.5 million DSs, in America, in 2007, is giving them a run for their money. Especially when 27 of the top 30 handheld games (in terms of sales) were on a Nintendo system (DS/GBA).

    Are the PSP sales shitty, no. Are they cause for concern to Nintendo, haha, hell no.
    Agreed, but no other handheld in history, even if it's a short one, has survived like the PSP vs Nintendo. It's silly to think Nintendo doesn't notice this. However, you also have to assume (base on their adverts) that Sony knew this and instead of competing for the same demographic, they took the other rout. The sector who doesn't want a DS but wants an alternative such as the PSP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora
    From all the 3 game consoles available, this is the one that offers more multifunctionality for the regular consumer.
    I somehow doubt the regular consumer is going to know their system does even half of that.
    Yes, it is the consumers primary responsibility to research whatever product they are potentially willing to buy. I would like to think it is also the vendor's responsibility to inform them, if asked, of the capabilities/specs of x vs y product. However, as I've read here, some goons don't care about the consumer, and just mislead them to get a commission lol.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    * Blu Ray Player (1080p native), check
    * Dvd Player, check
    * Cd player, check
    * Super Audio cd, hey it's thrown in there too, check
    * Dolby TrueHD, check
    * Codescs to play different media formats, check
    * Remote play, to play your music, view pics, etc. etc. check (I personally love this shit)
    * This shit (mine at least) plays PS1, PS2, and PS3 gaems!
    I asked what made the system special

    My Sega Saturn can play CD's, what the fuck? Who cares?
    My Ps2 is a DVD player, again, who cares?
    "Super Audio"? Wut?
    If you don't think that's a compelling point (the reasons I provided); a reason to get it as a home centre instead of the other 2 consoles for a non-gamer, a person willing to make the transition from dvd to Blu, or on the fence, then I don't know what it is lol. And "special" is subjective, you have your own definition to satisfy it, and obviously mine won't do. Btw, neither of the systems you mentioned can do what the PS3 can, all in one; hence, home centre.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Dolby TrueHD? Most of the PS3 and 360 games aren't even native 1080p. It's as true as Jenna Jameson's breasts.
    Lol, is that what you do all the time? Just come up with your own shit to refute arguments that aren't there? I never mentioned anything about gaems, I mentioned the PS3 has that component for a consumer who wants to experience True, lossless HD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    General public (including posters here) could give a fuck about the crap you just posted.
    Your list sucks, lol.
    Obviously, because you've questioned the majority of them, read their minds, and have the authority to decide for them, right (moronic generalizations)? You've failed to point out my errors, all I see is: "THAT is NOT special, this and that can do the saem!!! Ur list suxors LOL. I dunt care!!! *foamy mouth*" I'm not saying you aren't smart, you just don't want to have an interesting discourse, but at least I tried mate

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    There could be a PSP game released that does nothing but give you free blowjobs and it still wouldn't be able to touch the DS. I'm vaguely interested in getting a PSP, but it seems the vast majority of its good games are ports. (Valkyrie Profile, Disgaea, FFT, Castlevania)

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Like I said, slap a custom firmware on it and use it as a portable PSX.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora
    "special" is subjective, you have your own definition to satisfy it, and obviously mine won't do. Btw, neither of the systems you mentioned can do what the PS3 can, all in one; hence, home centre.
    Yes it can. And more, which is why your list is so fucking lol.

    360 can not only play CD's, it can support Ipods and Zunes. (hello 2008) 360 can not only play movies, it can play them in 1080p, and you can download them straight to the console off marketplace.
    Your home centre peice is bullshit, as 360 can do all the crap you just listed (except play Blu-Ray and PS games)

    The only difference is that you don't see me making retarded posts bragging about it. It's not that big of a deal, and you're doing a great job acting like it is.

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Quote Originally Posted by Meteora
    Yes, it is the consumers primary responsibility to research whatever product they are potentially willing to buy. I would like to think it is also the vendor's responsibility to inform them, if asked, of the capabilities/specs of x vs y product. However, as I've read here, some goons don't care about the consumer, and just lie to them to get a commission lol.
    Not saying I disagree with it being the consumers responsibility to research their purchase, but, and I'd bet money on this, if you ask the "regular consumer" to list the number of reasons they bought a PS3, they're going to tell you 1) Games and 2) Blu-ray, they aren't going to say because it offers Super Audio cd and the codecs to play multiple formats of video!!!

    The average consumer doesn't go into details, they look at whats popular and affordable. There are certainly consumers who know every detail about the product they buy, every feature, but I don't believe they fall into the regular category. Not to mention, most of those features you listed are either available on the 360 in some form, or aren't a huge selling point to me. I'm not going to base my purchase of a gaming system on super audio cd, but on its games, generally.

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    I'm so pissed, I just deleted my save file in Mass Effect by accident. I was only 5 hours in but god damnit, this sucks. I was at the part where you fight the Asari Matriach lady at Peak 15. She owned me like 5 straight times, and when I went to reload my save file I hit X by accident.

    It's gay that the game doesn't ask you if you're sure before you delete a file.... damnit!

    Now I'm at the character creation screen... I was Vanguard before but something about the class felt pretty weak. I'm thinking of just either going Adept or Soldier. Anyone play the game on those classes? Which is your favorite?

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    Re: The Console Wars (360 / PS3 / Wii)

    Play soldier with Liara and Tali as your teammates, get used to the battle system/their abilities, and then for the 2nd playthrough roll an Adept.

    Vanguard is a crappy job tbh. (unless you unlock some achievements and can give it some extra stuff at the creation menu, makes a world of difference.)

    And this is exactly why I have multiple saves at ALL TIMES in RPGs. It sucks dude but it's cool, you'll have to beat the game about 4-6 times over anyways to get everything you want out of it.

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