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[BRP]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/grandtheftauto4?q=grand%20theft%20auto%20iv#critic s

I'm eagerly awaiting to see who has the balls to give this game a "decent" rating.

Yahtzee, he doesn't give two fuks about what others think. Anyhoo, am I the only one who's never cared for this series? ;x

Yahtzee doesn't rate games nor is his opinion respected as a traditional reviewer(to which I say thank god). No, you are not the only one.

[thestalkmore]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/grandtheftauto4?q=grand%20theft%20auto%20iv#critic s

I'm eagerly awaiting to see who has the balls to give this game a "decent" rating.

Yahtzee, he doesn't give two fuks about what others think. Anyhoo, am I the only one who's never cared for this series? ;x

Congratulations on having a substandard appreciation of triumphant video game design. Or was that the opposite of what you were implying?

[Maxxthepenguin]

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/grandtheftauto4?q=grand%20theft%20auto%20iv#critic s

I'm eagerly awaiting to see who has the balls to give this game a "decent" rating.

Yahtzee, he doesn't give two fuks about what others think. Anyhoo, am I the only one who's never cared for this series? ;x

Congratulations on having a substandard appreciation of triumphant video game design. Or was that the opposite of what you were implying?

If you want me to start naming problems with GTA:SA in particular, I can. It's fucking amazing how much of a free pass GTA games have gotten on a lot of factors. From what I heard about IV, the driving is miserable and you have to learn to compensate for it. In a game called Grand Theft Auto, I would have thought that this kind of flaw would have been a major issue but, no, it is still the best game people have ever played. People have criticized tons of other games for much less.

[Deejay]

Complaining about realistic driving in GTA is like complaining about no realistic depth added to the combat system in Twilight Princess.

Seriously.

Edit:
Grand Theft Auto III and forward has never been about realism, it's been about the sincere yet retarded immersion that sucks you in for however long. You're in a world, doing whatever the fuck you want, when you want, wreaking havoc. Or, you can go through a hokey Gangster Movie plot and kill/do amazing/funny shit. That's the appeal in GTA games.

You don't play Zelda for the combat system, and you don't play GTA for the driving physics. I thought we all knew that.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Is it fun is the question. Realistic driving isn't going to be fun for as many people as driving that focuses on accessibility except apparently that's ok with all of the reviewers. Sorry, but this ain't gonna fly.

[Deejay]

Again, what do you think Zelda has turned into the past couple years? Challenge or accessibility? It's weird how you bash one yet blindly support the other for the same reasons.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Again, what do you think Zelda has turned into the past couple years? Challenge or accessibility? It's weird how you bash one yet blindly support the other for the same reasons.

Accessibility, to a fault. That's not the fucking subject though. I'm not 'blindly supporting' it no matter what you think. This is simply about the quote "Congratulations on having a substandard appreciation of triumphant video game design." Stupid shit like making the driving less fun for the majority of the players is bullshit, and reviewers not taking the game makers to task and saying 'oh you drive a lot but it doesnt matter lol' is lame. If you don't like something that is integral to the game, fucking say it and reflect it in your BS score.

[thestalkmore]

Again, what do you think Zelda has turned into the past couple years? Challenge or accessibility? It's weird how you bash one yet blindly support the other for the same reasons.

Accessibility, to a fault. That's not the fucking subject though. I'm not 'blindly supporting' it no matter what you think. This is simply about the quote "Congratulations on having a substandard appreciation of triumphant video game design." Stupid shit like making the driving less fun for the majority of the players is bullshit, and reviewers not taking the game makers to task and saying 'oh you drive a lot but it doesnt matter lol' is lame. If you don't like something that is integral to the game, fucking say it and reflect it in your BS score.

I seriously don't understand where you think this specious "reviewer language" (the sensational idea that every reviewer on the fucking planet feels obliged to sustain the GTAIV hype bomb by stifling their true feelings and culling what they really want to say) is coming from. You're make sweeping generalizations about the fact that GTAIV driving isn't "fun" when the only real accredited sources who have played the fucking game have nothing but good things to say about it. But sure, translate "Rockstar has applied their new [amazing] physics engine to GTAIV's driving element and it makes for a different driving experience" into "DRIVING SUCKS AND GTAIV IS ABOUT DRIVING AND SO I REALLY AM PICKING MY WORDS CAREFULLY SO AS TO ARTIFICIALLY INFLATE MY SCORE." Do it all you want, you'll just be an idiot for it. I will be the first to admit that I didn't enjoy SA. I thought VC was one of the most fantastic gaming experiences ever produced (as it took what was great about GTAIII and just augmented it) but I didn't give more than a few pirated hours to SA because it took that and attempted to execute something that was WAY too ambitious and WAY outside of the scope of what GTA is meant to be (GTA is not The Sims). Go look at the GameTrailers review and you'll hear them speak about just this kind of thing, that GTAIV is ambitious but ambitious for ALL the right reasons. It's stripped away the esoteric bullshit that made SA inaccessible and focused that same striving for invention into the things that made GTAIII and GTAIII:VC true pinnacles of gaming achievement.

Who cares though, enjoy your not playing GTAIV.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Well SA was my introduction to the series and is what made me go 'what the fuck, this sucks'. I've been asking people if they improved over SA (specifically the controls) and nobody gives me a straight answer.

But no, the reviews I read wrote that the driving was frustrating, took a long time to learn, and not really fun but 10/10 omg.

It's not a conspiracy for hype, but people let themselves get swept up by it. This includes reviewers, and it's sad.

The ironic thing is that I'd prefer a 4 star rating system and I wouldn't care about the same text with a 4/4 rating.

Believe it or not, I want to want this game but nobody bothers to say anything substantial to me except OMG BEST GAME EVER EVERY SCREENSHOT IS PORN.

[thestalkmore]

Well SA was my introduction to the series and is what made me go 'what the fuck, this sucks'. I've been asking people if they improved over SA (specifically the controls) and nobody gives me a straight answer.

But no, the reviews I read wrote that the driving was frustrating, took a long time to learn, and not really fun but 10/10 omg.

It's not a conspiracy for hype, but people let themselves get swept up by it. This includes reviewers, and it's sad.

The ironic thing is that I'd prefer a 4 star rating system and I wouldn't care about the same text with a 4/4 rating.

Believe it or not, I want to want this game but nobody bothers to say anything substantial to me except OMG BEST GAME EVER EVERY SCREENSHOT IS PORN.

What would make you happy? Seriously? Go watch/read another review. I think you've been doing so with blinders/earplugs thus far. Did you miss the part where they said that the story is near oscar-worthy? How about the fact that Liberty City itself is one of the most impressive visual and content based achievements ever accomplished in gaming history? How about the fact that the incredibly deep single player experience is supplemented by mini-games that, though they are afterthoughts in GTAIV, could stand by themselves as standalone games? How about the fact that that same incredibly deep single player experience is supplemented by an obscenely fun, obscenely unique, obscenely fresh multiplayer experience? How about the fact that Rockstar has skimped NOWHERE on detail? I could go on for paragraphs without even owning GTAIV. Seriously, what would make you want this game? I'm not interesting in selling GTAIV to you. I'm interested in why you're muleheaded for no apparent reason whatsoever.

[Alina]

Ok, stop arguing about GTA and let's focus on more important things:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33369.html

[Maxxthepenguin]

Well SA was my introduction to the series and is what made me go 'what the fuck, this sucks'. I've been asking people if they improved over SA (specifically the controls) and nobody gives me a straight answer.

But no, the reviews I read wrote that the driving was frustrating, took a long time to learn, and not really fun but 10/10 omg.

It's not a conspiracy for hype, but people let themselves get swept up by it. This includes reviewers, and it's sad.

The ironic thing is that I'd prefer a 4 star rating system and I wouldn't care about the same text with a 4/4 rating.

Believe it or not, I want to want this game but nobody bothers to say anything substantial to me except OMG BEST GAME EVER EVERY SCREENSHOT IS PORN.

What would make you happy? Seriously? Go watch/read another review. I think you've been doing so with blinders/earplugs thus far. Did you miss the part where they said that the story is near oscar-worthy? How about the fact that Liberty City itself is one of the most impressive visual and content based achievements ever accomplished in gaming history? How about the fact that the incredibly deep single player experience is supplemented by mini-games that, though they are afterthoughts in GTAIV, could stand by themselves as standalone games? How about the fact that that same incredibly deep single player experience is supplemented by an obscenely fun, obscenely unique, obscenely fresh multiplayer experience? How about the fact that Rockstar has skimped NOWHERE on detail? I could go on for paragraphs without even owning the GTAIV. Seriously, what would make you want this game? I'm not interesting in selling GTAIV to you. I'm interested in why you're muleheaded for no apparent reason whatsoever.

I'm 'muleheaded' because I played SA, heard many of the same OMG BEST EVER things, and thought it was boring.

I heard Bioshock was one of the most impressive storytelling achievements ever and when I played it I found the story to be pretty dull despite a great setting.

I heard Mass Effect would have all sorts of awesome things that it just didn't live up to.

Hype is getting ridiculous and harder and harder to cut through. I'm just trying to do that.

[Tajin]

Well, evidently without the game out, nobody but those with torrent/early sales will have an opinion of it; and well magazines but you are trying to avoid hype.

I suggest you to wait until people plays the game, and get an opinion then. I could make posts like yours about pre-release.

If nobody has play the game (GTA4) how do you expect an unhyped opinion?

[Maxxthepenguin]

I wasn't one of the people saying OMG BRAWL WOULD BE THE IMMACULATE PINNACLE OF GAME DESIGN. Nothing even close.

I just want to smash the hype with a bigass hammer.

[thestalkmore]

I wasn't one of the people saying OMG BRAWL WOULD BE THE IMMACULATE PINNACLE OF GAME DESIGN. Nothing even close.

I just want to smash the hype with a bigass hammer.

K Debbie Downer

[Tajin]

I was not saying you were one of the fanboys, just putting an example of a hyped game where, what you are doing can be replicated.
Why would you want to smash hype?, hype is fun, I have fun and get excited when a new metal gear trailer comes up.
However I agree hype might lead to biased opinions, but I stopped reading magazines / online sites long ago. BG /friend opinions or

[Maxxthepenguin]

My main issue with hype is how much people ignore games without hype. No more heroes deserved a lot better. Okami deserved better. God hand deserved better.

It also has a pretty perverse effect on reviews. The only recent big game that has been judged properly recently, imo, is MKWii and it has had reviews that run the gamut all the way from 42/100 to 10/10. Which is what I think is how it should be, some people love the game some hate it. This is true of most games, but hype gets in the way of such variety. People get caught up in the hype and, even when not liking it, 'respect' it. Which screws over so many games which don't get such 'respect'.

Hype turns people stupid.

[Tajin]

Was going to work out an example with katamary damacy, but actually Penny Arcade and other webcomics were what really pushed me to buy it, thought the review on EGM (paper) was not bad at all.

Not every game without hype goes completely unnoticed (example ICO), but in the end if the company does not advertise the product, kinda hard to notice it except thru other peoples opinion. I do remember seeing some God Hand ads though.

[Xavier]

Hype turns people stupid.

You'll be pleased to know that IGN AU is beyond the hype!

Without a doubt, rest assured this is the best game yet for this generation. The only reason we've resisted giving it full marks is that in the same way GTA III's template was blown out so much further in "Vice City" and "San Andreas," we're confident the next GTA on this generation will up the ante considerably.

[Tajin]

Want a GTA4 opinion, ok here is one

This: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkb2ZxaNCww <--- cgaming.com review

The first driving scenes look like those old toys or movies where there is a car painted, and the scenery is the one that moves, also the cars looks like they are floating instead of in the ground, it looks fake. Maybe its the video quality, because it lools cel-shaded too, and fuck cel-shading >.>

The pedestrians way of running looks stupid, but then again that is not exactly the focus in the multiplayer part.
It wont stop me from playing it to death, but it does look bad 8)