Heated Endgame Discussion

[Ninjiz]

Because you are looking at it, as a "one line" context, when i meant it as the overall theme of the entire post about how they are changing their approaches to mimic the western devs who have bigger markets now. which is why i put "indication of this are the new number of japanese companies who are now licensing the "Unreal engine" to develop games (middleware being a more western develoment pratice)"

I was saying that the fact that they are even using middleware after DECADES of shunning it, trying to make more western friendly content, and get more involved in the western game communities, AND mimic Western methods on development, is an indication of them trying to change their approach in game development, and have a more "western/global" stance. They are looking at the Western Devs, and analyzing what they are doing to succeed, which is WHY they want to adopt the design model of western devs which INCLUDES making games for the global market, AND using middleware to save money.

Im sorry if i worded that line in a manner that confused you. i know looking at that one line then they ae not the complete same thing. I was thinking of the entire post when i wrote it. But Lost planet was created by trying to adopt western ideals in game design. And the Middleware came into play once again because they were trying to adopt western ideals for game design. That was the point i was trying to make.

I wasnt saying "the only reason they are using the unreal engine is because they want to MAKE a game FOR the west" thus implying they cant make western games without it.

[Kyreth]

Rage modes are utterly useless because they're absurdly long...

Faf+HQ king 1 hour ?? should be 45 tops.
Adaman and Behemoth 30 minutes ?? Those shouldnt be more than 15.
LoO (KC era) was ONE HOUR !! ONE HOUR !! Should be 15.

Wiki page says that LoO was 20 minutes, however I can not believe that because I saw some people spend 50 minutes fighting it, and it developed no forms of SSJ. Behemoth is apparently one hour as well. Behemoth can be killed by a group of 6 half intelligent people in like 10 minutes. It does not need to be 1 hour.

These things make the rage system a joke.

The rage system was put in to prevent people from holding monsters till hell froze over- not as a method of making the monster more challenging by putting a time limit in.

Though personally, I think if an HNM/NM takes damage at too -high- a rate, they should go into rage/TP spam mode for a minute or two. The toughest monsters in the game shouldn't be killable in under two minutes with an appropriate number of characters hammering on it. And besides, it'd mean there's more to HNM killing than victory-via-overkill.

[Lordender]

ewww no update info still ; ; was hoping to see atleast 2 more annoucements.

[Faris]

Rage is also nice when you see "green" Linkshells or RMTs fighting it, and don't know what the hell they doing.

[JMunin]

ewww no update info still ; ; was hoping to see atleast 2 more annoucements.

Could be good or bad. Might have something really good coming or a delay may be on the horizon.

[Xavier]

Its "Early March" for the update right?

[Akiyama]

Yeah really. It's kinda irritating me.

[Toth]

The patch is due early March - I suspect March 10-12- and tomorrow is the first day of March. You know one of the updates will be about the chocobo racing. This update is feeling very weak.

[divisortheory]

This update is feeling very weak.

The new Assault ranks will be enough for me. Just look at how amazing some of the items that come from S and SM assaults are. A Ring with Accuracy+6 and Attack+3? Fuck yes. A pair of gloves with Ice Spikes? Fuck yes. A neckpiece with R. Acc+6 R. Atk+5 Enmity-1 and Subtle Blow? Fuck yes. Imagine how good some of the items from the higher tier Assaults are going to be.

Even if they add nothing but the new assault ranks, that will be nice right there. Although I have a feeling they're just saving the big news for last.

[Toth]

Did they mention specifically that new Assault ranks were coming?

[fantasticdan]

Did they mention specifically that new Assault ranks were coming?

They said:

Upcoming Version Update (02/09/2007)

The next FINAL FANTASY XI version update is scheduled to take place in early March.

We are currently working on implementing the long-awaited chocobo racing system, as well as new missions, quests, monsters, Assault areas, and more! Along with various system additions and improvements, we will also be raising the maximum level of the beastman armies in Besieged.

Further version update details will be released in an upcoming Topics article. Stay tuned!

Nyzul isle I would assume. They never said anything about rank yet.

[Kyreth]

New Assault areas would by nature imply a whole set of new items to reward people going into the new Assault areas.

Which means we'll probably see a bunch of decent stuff (heck, every Assault area's had decent stuff) from AP rewards, plus a few gems as rare drops from the actual Assaults themselves.

[Airshort7]

Theres still no Nyzul isle assault yet?

Taj was in Nyzul like 8 months ago lol...and that zone is about just as useful as it was then.

[Tekki]

Salvage?

[Not Kuno]

Theres still no Nyzul isle assault yet?

Taj was in Nyzul like 8 months ago lol...and that zone is about just as useful as it was then.

Huh? Theres alot of new stuff.

Easier to get around different areas (ie parts of Caedarva, really easy to get to that far staging point past Ilrusi). New areas to xp in + khimaira, Salvage.

[Sykes]

"Assault areas" and "assault missions" are interchangeable in update notes. They used "assault areas" to describe the new missions from the October 2006 update in a teaser posted 09/13/2006.

I personally think they'll be adding Nyzul with this update too, but don't get too terribly excited about the use of the word "areas".

[Terrance]

This update is feeling very weak.

The new Assault ranks will be enough for me. Just look at how amazing some of the items that come from S and SM assaults are. A Ring with Accuracy+6 and Attack+3? Fuck yes.

4 times a week for 3 months, yet to see one.

[Quicklet]

Just look at how amazing some of the items that come from S and SM assaults are. A Ring with Accuracy+6 and Attack+3? Fuck yes. A pair of gloves with Ice Spikes? Fuck yes. A neckpiece with R. Acc+6 R. Atk+5 Enmity-1 and Subtle Blow? Fuck yes. Imagine how good some of the items from the higher tier Assaults are going to be.

Somehow I don't think you're being sarcastic.

(And WTF at the million previews before posting again.)

[divisortheory]

Why should I have been sarcastic? Are those items not good? Are they not instanced so that anyone has access to achieve them? OH WAIT, THE DROP RATE SUCKS, I FORGOT WE WANT REALLY AWESOME EQUIPMENT TO BE EASY TO GET.

[Khalil]

If I'm not mistaken, didn't the lady whom Bercus interview say that some of our answers to his questions would be in this very update?