New Assault Area (03/01/2007)

[deivi]

If it does use tags, then you obviously have a choice.

Do you want your Zilart gear without the botting, or your Salvage gear.

same principal as:

do you want to use your dyna timer in Zilart for currency/better AF droprate or CoP for a chance at cape/belt and AFII+1?

do you want to do KS30 or save up for a 99?

do you want to farm points for assault gear or take a gamble on salvage?

you can still have your cake and eat it too, its just gonna take a little (lot) longer.

[Priran]

EDIT: And the Ashu Talif Assault quests simply follow Assault mechanics but are independent from the Assault missions in the Comissions Agency and in our mission log, so they can't be used to prove a point.

Ok, so how do you prove a point regarding an Assault mission that gives no AP, and is probably completely dissociated from mercenary rank?

Nyzul Isle is being introduced separate from the other Assaults, and is completely different in almost every aspect. Pretending you know either way (like a certain 50-post wonder that needs to gb2/zam/) makes you a retard.

[Ryko]

Then NPC anything that they'll take

On it!

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4562/notagainet6.jpg

[Quicklet]

Sell all your old NM drops before the update lol.

Then get owned when Nyzul is nothing like people think it's going to be. \:D/

[safer]

Then NPC anything that they'll take

On it!

[img]http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4562/notagainet6.jpg [/img]

That's soooo shopped... i can tell from the etc etc etc

[Ryko]

Then NPC anything that they'll take

On it!

[img]http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4562/notagainet6.jpg [/img]

That's soooo shopped... i can tell from the etc etc etc

Nah dude it totally happened, then I was like /emo then http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/297/screwitalllt3.jpg.

You know us though, we find Ebodies in boxes of cracker jacks so no one noticed one was missing

[Senoska]

Then NPC anything that they'll take

On it!

[img]http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4562/notagainet6.jpg [/img]

That's soooo shopped... i can tell from the etc etc etc

Nah dude it totally happened, then I was like /emo then http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/297/screwitalllt3.jpg.

You know us though, we find Ebodies in boxes of cracker jacks so no one noticed one was missing

totally happened, true story.

[Ixidor]

After killing Fafnir with the same crew for the past few years I am completely 100% positive that if I could hand pick my best, and have a free Fafnir, they could do it in 5. Giving us 6 would be an ass raping with the optimal setup of my crew. Could you get unlucky and something stupid happen? Ya. Could you do it in a hour? 5-man would push it and require some luck. 6 Man I bet we could 30-40min it.

Either way, I can only echo Xav's point. Even if they are the 1hr zerging HNMs we've learned to play with, this will present a REAL challenge to the best of the best in the end game community. The average player wont be /shout a crew together for this, hell some Aery regulars on my server can pull a 6 man Faffy off.

SE can get this very very right, or so wrong.

SD has killed faf with 8 in 20min, a Nid with 9, but im sure that took almost the hour because of wing spams. Ridill/joy war > Wyrm. The problem i see would be getting to this kings floor with the setup to kill the king, not so much killing it. I'm going to say that the time restriction would be your biggest enemy, which is thrown out if you can record your progress to start on that very floor.

divisortheory wrote:
Sell all your old NM drops before the update lol.
I can see Behemoth hides and dusk gear dropping lol

Now that would be SE thinking somewhat more logically, at least for anyone who doesn't have leathercraft leveled. Bottom out the economy on an item that is highly monopolized due to RMT characters.

[Akiyama]

Cue Seno's /emoforthrowingakclub picture?

[Tekki]

hmmm my Dusk Gloves +1 still havent sold

[Ixidor]

See Tekki it's Started already! Bottom out now why they're still worth something!

[Senoska]

hmmm my Dusk Gloves +1 still havent sold

in the current economy I dont think they ever will ;(

[Vedder]

Also: Ashu Talif is an Assault. it doesn't require ID Tags to enter.

Really? When it was introduced it was described as "A new series of Assault-style quests aboard the Ashu Talif has been added."

Does 'Assault-style quest' = 'Assault mission'? Perhaps it's a matter of semantics only, but they seem to have some fundamental differences.

For the record though, I believe Nyzul Isle will consume Assault ID Tags as well.

Can't wait... even if the mobs don't crap out Ridills and D.Rings left and right.

[divisortheory]

Really? When it was introduced it was described as "A new series of Assault-style quests aboard the Ashu Talif has been added."

Does 'Assault-style quest' = 'Assault mission'? Perhaps it's a matter of semantics only, but they seem to have some fundamental differences.

Equipment which have Latent effects that are only active in Assault, are in fact active during The Ashu Talif quests.

[Kaylia]

Nyzul consumming tag would be retarded (even if it's likely to happen). Farming point for salvage, farming nyzul for old gears or simply farming assault for "??? item"/old gears. There is too many thing using those points.

Can't wait... even if the mobs don't crap out Ridills and D.Rings left and right.

I just hope drop rate is going to be at least 1/100 for item like this.

[Jeryhn]

EDIT: And the Ashu Talif Assault quests simply follow Assault mechanics but are independent from the Assault missions in the Comissions Agency and in our mission log, so they can't be used to prove a point.

Well... missions, quests and key items all use the same .DAT file. The only real difference between a mission and a quest on a programming level is the fact that the two are put on separate menus for easier sorting through.

Meanwhile, on a programming level, an Ashu Talif BC is an Assault.

People should realize that its the mechanics of the game that usually makes the difference, not the semantics.

[Matricide]

I just hope drop rate is going to be at least 1/100 for item like this.

Yeah, then people would have cool shit that makes existing content even easier and they'd actually have to add content that's a real/new challenge. Would be lame to make players progress forward after 3 years you know?

[Secksi]

I am over 9000% positive that Nyzul Isle will require ID tags.

I'm convinced.

[Quicklet]

Farming point for salvage, farming nyzul for old gears or simply farming assault for "??? item"/old gears. There is too many thing using those points.

SE hasn't said there will only be old gear from Nyzul (or even if it's going to be even any old gear at all).

I just hope drop rate is going to be at least 1/100 for item like this.

Why? Assuming the HNMs aren't watered down, why will they need to lower the drop rates any more than they already are if people have to kill them with 6?

[Rentwokay]

Also: Ashu Talif is an Assault. it doesn't require ID Tags to enter.

Really? When it was introduced it was described as "A new series of Assault-style quests aboard the Ashu Talif has been added."

Does 'Assault-style quest' = 'Assault mission'? Perhaps it's a matter of semantics only, but they seem to have some fundamental differences.

For the record though, I believe Nyzul Isle will consume Assault ID Tags as well.

Thank you. A little logic goes a long way.

Equipment which have Latent effects that are only active in Assault, are in fact active during The Ashu Talif quests.

And equipment whose effects are only active outside of regions where your nation is dominant don't work in Aht Urghan. Is Square-Enix even aware that Assault gear works in the Ashu Talif? They may have forgotten to set ASSAULT=0 or something.

Don't tell me it can't happen.

Nyzul Isle is being introduced separate from the other Assaults, and is completely different in almost every aspect. Pretending you know either way (like a certain 50-post wonder that needs to gb2/zam/) makes you a retard.

I think you're proof entirely that somebody can have thousands of posts and still be an absolute idiot.

Priran, here's hoping that your first appraisal from Nyzul Isle is one of these:

http://www.germes-online.com/direct/...um_Cleaner.jpg

I'm sure you know where to insert it and what you should be sucking out.