New Assault Area (03/01/2007)

[Taj]

Nyzul Isle has a Rune of Release.

(Two actually, it was hard to tell when I went there because I had never done assault before. One looked like a Rune of Release but it wasn't lit up, and it was called START or something. Idfk.)

[Suiram]

It's not impossible to know the answer, its just impossible to know you know.

I'm no philosopher, but I'm pretty sure most theories of knowledge would consider any belief you hold where it's "impossible to know you know" you are right as not constituting actual knowledge.

[Khamsin]

It's not impossible to know the answer, its just impossible to know you know.

I'm no philosopher, but I'm pretty sure most theories of knowledge would consider any belief you hold where it's "impossible to know you know" you are right as not constituting actual knowledge.

And I'm no epistemologist. But I concede your point.

Either way, the smart ones know they don't know they know.

[phlux]

It's not impossible to know the answer, its just impossible to know you know.

I'm no philosopher, but I'm pretty sure most theories of knowledge would consider any belief you hold where it's "impossible to know you know" you are right as not constituting actual knowledge.

And I'm no epistemologist. But I concede your point.

Either way, the smart ones know they don't know they know.

If only the difficult problems of philosophy could be resolved by "Let's just wait five days and find out, okay?"

[Rentwokay]

It's not impossible to know the answer, its just impossible to know you know.

I'm no philosopher, but I'm pretty sure most theories of knowledge would consider any belief you hold where it's "impossible to know you know" you are right as not constituting actual knowledge.

And I'm no epistemologist. But I concede your point.

Either way, the smart ones know they don't know they know.

If only the difficult problems of philosophy could be resolved by "Let's just wait five days and find out, okay?"

If only we could check God's website on a daily basis and find out when the armageddon will be.

"Damn it. It's ALWAYS during US prime time!"

[Jeryhn]

It's not impossible to know the answer, its just impossible to know you know.

I'm no philosopher, but I'm pretty sure most theories of knowledge would consider any belief you hold where it's "impossible to know you know" you are right as not constituting actual knowledge.

And I'm no epistemologist. But I concede your point.

Either way, the smart ones know they don't know they know.

If only the difficult problems of philosophy could be resolved by "Let's just wait five days and find out, okay?"

If only we could check God's website on a daily basis and find out when the armageddon will be.

"Damn it. It's ALWAYS during US prime time!"

GG God, pushing all our raptures into JP time.

[Alathar]

In regards to tokens:

Who says they're gonna be a currency? The token required to save to a certain floor could be dependent on drops from a previous floor (likely not 100%). i.e. let's say you have adaman floor and the fafnir floor afterwards. Adaman has a chance to drop an ex item that allows you to restart from the end of that floor. Therefore you might be able to start at faf again next time if you get the drop. However ... it is more likely that it will be a currency type scenario, just offering another perspective

[Khamsin]

In regards to tokens:

Who says they're gonna be a currency? The token required to save to a certain floor could be dependent on drops from a previous floor (likely not 100%). i.e. let's say you have adaman floor and the fafnir floor afterwards. Adaman has a chance to drop an ex item that allows you to restart from the end of that floor. Therefore you might be able to start at faf again next time if you get the drop. However ... it is more likely that it will be a currency type scenario, just offering another perspective

Could also be tradeable tokens of which you require 100 to reach Fafnir floors, etc.

[mikazuki]

consensual facts, anticipatory speculation and internal beliefs.

what SE releases as news we can construe as facts, what we hope for is speculation and what we expect is our beliefs.

most theological arguments can be resolved by admitting belief is self-contained.

is that sattvic enough?

[Kaylia]

Also, "substantial number of token" worries me. They make it sound like you will have to whore the the first 5 floor over and over to do the 2nd set, and same thing for 3rd and more.

thats kind of a given, considering thats how almost everything in this game works

Well, the only thing that work like they make it sound is sea.
23423 first tier
324 2nd tier
1 jol
0 Av
Limbus is not using an increasing amount of pop item, same with sky.


Anyway, I'm not gonna bother thinking about it untill it's released. They will probably find a way to break it and make it painful.

[Eratosthenes]

I hope there are charmable mobs in at least parts of this. A "some random floors will have them" type of situation is the most I can expect.

I'm betting it takes ID tags to do this.

Since it doesn't reward Assault Points, it should provide access to equipment better than that which can be obtained through Assault in the other five areas, and not necessarily limited to high-level equipment.

Tokens sound like Beastmen's/Kindred Seals; they'll drop from anything inside, and players will have to collect them.

[Aerin]

maybe it will be lower level equip on the bottom floors and higher level as you go up, makes sense

[FinalJustice]

Man, I'm trying not to let any of this speculation get me too excited lol.
Because if I do, and the content comes out, and teh drops are nothing like this, i'll die a little inside.

[MF Perm]

Just imagine what this would do to linkshell mechanics if you could get old HNM drops from here.

How many people are in LS they don't like but are in them because they can claim.


Should be fun to watch if this is the case.

[Xavier]

How many people are in LS they don't like but are in them because they can claim.

Should be fun to watch if this is the case.

I can think of a few linkshells that would fall apart immediately.

[Trythison]

How many people are in LS they don't like but are in them because they can claim.

Should be fun to watch if this is the case.

I can think of a few linkshells that would fall apart immediately.

Who exactly are you talking about?

[Palin@Ramuh]

My Bet:


This Drops Assault Only King gear lol

Assault Only Dalmatica lmfao

[NynJa]

How many people are in LS they don't like but are in them because they can claim.

Should be fun to watch if this is the case.

Its so sad because of how fuckin true it is.

[Doombard]

In regards to tokens:

Who says they're gonna be a currency? The token required to save to a certain floor could be dependent on drops from a previous floor (likely not 100%). i.e. let's say you have adaman floor and the fafnir floor afterwards. Adaman has a chance to drop an ex item that allows you to restart from the end of that floor. Therefore you might be able to start at faf again next time if you get the drop. However ... it is more likely that it will be a currency type scenario, just offering another perspective

What if the items used to start over on a certain floor were sellable via bazaar. If there are certain floors with certain monsters like you were mentioning, for example Adaman floor. Now say that certain NM's are on certain floors..... people bazaaring Fafnir fights or KB fights. Sounds like RMT could take advantage of it. If they arent skilled enough to fight the 6 man KB or Faf, just sell the item that lets you fight. Unless everything is completely random like it might suggest.

[divisortheory]

It just occured to me that a few months ago when they had the Kraken Club update, they said "we plan to move the item to the BC for now, and we will investigate other possibilities for obtaining the item to be implemented at a later date."

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking?