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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    SOMEBODY CUE THE PICURE OF THE TOAU TIMELINE AND SHOW THE BROKEN PROMISES!

    You can say what you want about bitching, they set themselves up for it by providing a timeline and then completely ignoring it.
    Yes, because you would be much more pleased with broken content that was shoved out the door to meet the time line.
    Or they could have released non-broken content on the timeline and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Broken or not, not releasing anything is FAR worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skurlover
    Or they could have released non-broken content on the timeline and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Broken or not, not releasing anything is FAR worse.
    what on the timeline exactly is not being released?

    most of the stuff seem to be coming out in the order that the timeline says they are coming out.

    it was a projected development timeline, not a moneyback guarantee deadline.

    get a job and than go shoot some weathermen or Mel Kiper Jr. and other people who do mock drafts for a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by skurlover
    Or they could have released non-broken content on the timeline and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Broken or not, not releasing anything is FAR worse.
    what on the timeline exactly is not being released?

    most of the stuff seem to be coming out in the order that the timeline says they are coming out.

    it was a projected development timeline, not a moneyback guarantee deadline.

    get a job and than go shoot some weathermen or Mel Kiper Jr. and other people who do mock drafts for a living.
    The Colloseum I think. I don't hold the broken timeline against them lol, I don't think I've ever worked for a software company that delivered something when they promised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    SOMEBODY CUE THE PICURE OF THE TOAU TIMELINE AND SHOW THE BROKEN PROMISES!

    You can say what you want about bitching, they set themselves up for it by providing a timeline and then completely ignoring it.
    Yes, because you would be much more pleased with broken content that was shoved out the door to meet the time line.
    I didn't force them to make a timeline, or to announce the content a year in advance.

    The Colloseum
    That, and I think the original timeline had all of the jobs having gotten adjustments by now.

    I'm not saying I expected the timeline to be followed or that its even realistic, just that they shouldn't do it in the future. Giving players those kind of expectations isn't really a good idea. I think they should've just announced the content in development but left it opened ended for a release date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by skurlover
    Or they could have released non-broken content on the timeline and we wouldn't be having this discussion. Broken or not, not releasing anything is FAR worse.
    what on the timeline exactly is not being released?

    most of the stuff seem to be coming out in the order that the timeline says they are coming out.

    it was a projected development timeline, not a moneyback guarantee deadline.

    get a job and than go shoot some weathermen or Mel Kiper Jr. and other people who do mock drafts for a living.
    What a novel idea, ever heard of a lunch break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    SOMEBODY CUE THE PICURE OF THE TOAU TIMELINE AND SHOW THE BROKEN PROMISES!

    You can say what you want about bitching, they set themselves up for it by providing a timeline and then completely ignoring it.
    Yes, because you would be much more pleased with broken content that was shoved out the door to meet the time line.
    I didn't force them to make a timeline, or to announce the content a year in advance.

    The Colloseum
    That, and I think the original timeline had all of the jobs having gotten adjustments by now.

    I'm not saying I expected the timeline to be followed or that its even realistic, just that they shouldn't do it in the future. Giving players those kind of expectations isn't really a good idea. I think they should've just announced the content in development but left it opened ended for a release date.
    You claim to want to know what they are doing and when we will get it, then you say they shouldn't do that. Dude, you are schizophrenic, lol. You are complaining from both sides.

    They even said when they released the time line that it was not date accurate, it was a hopeful general guideline. I think you may be the only one that thinks it is Iron Law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    You claim to want to know what they are doing and when we will get it, then you say they shouldn't do that. Dude, you are schizophrenic, lol. You are complaining from both sides.
    Thats a pretty serious thing to say about someone, but whatever. I don't think I ever claimed to want to know what they are doing, just if they feel like telling me, to try and be as accurate as possible. I'm just saying that giving deadlines to things is stupid because if you don't meet them, the fanbase gets upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skurlover
    What a novel idea, ever heard of a lunch break?
    than you should know that in the real world, most projections are off in one way or another.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    I'm just saying that giving deadlines to things is stupid because if you don't meet them, the fanbase gets upset.
    that's not what it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    Quote Originally Posted by skurlover
    What a novel idea, ever heard of a lunch break?
    than you should know that in the real world, most projections are off in one way or another.
    Sendoh and his "employment" and "job" and "work" psh

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    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...michaelava.jpg

    Anyone else ever think he gives that pose to the computer each time right before he hits the enter button? It scares the shit out of me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil
    that's not what it was.
    They gave a 2-3 month window, its quite a large deadline but I still think if you say "Such and such can be expected between September and December" and its not out by March, that the chart was misleading.

    Again, I didn't expect it to be accurate, just that I wish they had simply listed everything in an order of progression and not given months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skurlover
    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...michaelava.jpg

    Anyone else ever think he gives that pose to the computer each time right before he hits the enter button? It scares the shit out of me...
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    I'm glad I...scare you shitless?

    My only point is that if you never say "expect chocobo racing by XX date", and instead just say "We're working on Chocobo racing, we hope you guys love it, it'll be out when its done", you wouldn't have to deal with announcing it was delayed and delayed and delayed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    SOMEBODY CUE THE PICURE OF THE TOAU TIMELINE AND SHOW THE BROKEN PROMISES!

    You can say what you want about bitching, they set themselves up for it by providing a timeline and then completely ignoring it.
    Yes, because you would be much more pleased with broken content that was shoved out the door to meet the time line.
    se would never do that

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    According to the time line the chocobo circuit is very behind, everything else though is bracketed together for implementation any time from December and after. So technically as long as they release the remaining content anytime after that it's still following the time line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth
    Quote Originally Posted by Deftscythe
    Quote Originally Posted by DreizehnOfSiren
    Actually.. i'm looking forward to this.

    Look at this map:
    [img]http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps_normal2/ ... cuit_1.jpg[img]

    As you can see, there are connections to the 5 main cities.. It looks like you can go from one to the other fairly easily.. what do you guys think?
    I think this was covered in another thread, but if you compare that to any other map, you'll see the text and the line leading to it don't match zone connections on other maps, so probably not the fast transit we'd all like. Instead, those are probably betting counters or something.
    They are probably counters where you go to register/check up on your chococo. If you raised it in Sandy, you go to the Sandy counter for example.
    http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps/chocobo-circuit/general/

    There you can see all of the circuit.. and if you don't want to click the link.. here's one more:

    http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps_norma...-circuit_2.jpg

    Why would they even say 'Southern San d'Oria'? So i doubt it's betting counters...

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    Why whine about the timeline in the first place when we should be whining about why we're waiting for access to shit we paid for last August?

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    On the Chocobo Circuit, a zone connecting all the major cities just seems to good to be true. I really hope your right though.

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    http://www.ffxi-atlas.com/maps/chocobo-circuit/general/

    There you can see all of the circuit.. and if you don't want to click the link.. here's one more:



    Why would they even say 'Southern San d'Oria'? So i doubt it's betting counters...
    Well, there you go lol It does like something like a transporter.

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    I think that most likely you will be restricted to only exiting to the city you entered from. The point is to access the circuit from any city, not to be a fast mode of transportation.

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