Battle System Adjustments (03/05/2007)

[Ryko]

You'd have no shadows, you'd still be getting hit for a fuckton and spikes only last for 1 min tops with a 3 min recast. I'm thinking no.

You just don't know! You don't understand! God

[ringthree]

They gave DRK mobs already in the game Absorb TP when that was introduced.

Hmmm, interesting exception to the rule. Thanks But in general this is true. Old mobs don't get new abilities, old DRG mobs still have Summon Wyvern as their two hour, etc.

Are there any other exceptions?

[Ryko]

They gave DRK mobs already in the game Absorb TP when that was introduced.

Hmmm, interesting exception to the rule. Thanks But in general this is true. Old mobs don't get new abilities, old DRG mobs still have Summon Wyvern as their two hour, etc.

Are there any other exceptions?

Uh, the reason DRG mobs still have call wyvern as their 2 hour is....

you cant spirit surge without one...

[divisortheory]

Did BRD mobs get Raptor Mazurka

[Mala]

Did BRD mobs get Raptor Mazurka

Do BRD mobs cast Chocobo Mazurka?

[Siatdiat]

EDIT: I just double checked it, there is no xp bonus for solo players, have to be a duo to 5 players for it to be any different with signet than without. So, I guess its not good for any soloing, only "small groups".

I see BST duos all the time when I'm levelling low level jobs (low = 1-50)

Otherwise, not bad. I guess we'll see if the signet is true Signet only, or if Sanction is included in this.

I see no reason to think it would be Sanction. The whole point of this is to get more people levelling in non ToAU areas.

Bst duos before lvl 35 are retarded. And still, even if it makes bst duos better at 35-ToAU, how does that effect me? Thats right it doesnt.

[Terrance]

This bonus only applies to attacks from an opponent who you are auto-attacking with a drawn weapon.

Go go melee WHM, SMN, BLM, RDM etc.

[Blackice]

You'd have no shadows, you'd still be getting hit for a fuckton and spikes only last for 1 min tops with a 3 min recast. I'm thinking no.

You just don't know! You don't understand! God

I'm leveling DRK as we speak Ryko Gotta level into Adaberk and full homam sooner or later!

[Ryko]

DRK is the only time I ever wish I picked galka.

Then I realize all the galkas with similar gear to mine on this server are fucking tards.

[MF Perm]

You'd have no shadows, you'd still be getting hit for a fuckton and spikes only last for 1 min tops with a 3 min recast. I'm thinking no.

Doesn't DRK have access to some PLD high def / emn gear? And where is the info on the cast time for Dread Spikes, I didn't see it anywhere.

I understand it's a wildly speculative statement, but they could get a shitload of hate obviously... if they could take hits and use these effectively it'd be cool to see happen.

Don't know about a 3 minute recast on spikes though.

[Blackice]

DRK is the only time I ever wish I picked galka.

Then I realize all the galkas with similar gear to mine on this server are fucking tards.

Fair enough on the Galka retard thing, there's a small handful on Seraph who aren't complete idiots.

[Eaglestrike]

They gave DRK mobs already in the game Absorb TP when that was introduced.

Hmmm, interesting exception to the rule. Thanks But in general this is true. Old mobs don't get new abilities, old DRG mobs still have Summon Wyvern as their two hour, etc.

Are there any other exceptions?

Uh, the reason DRG mobs still have call wyvern as their 2 hour is....

you cant spirit surge without one...

What I think he meant is that Dynamis DRG's have Call Wyvern as their two hour, but Mamool Ja Cataracts have Call Wyvern as a JA and Spirit Surge as their 2 hour. Technically the Dynamis mobs should have changed too.

[Blackice]

You'd have no shadows, you'd still be getting hit for a fuckton and spikes only last for 1 min tops with a 3 min recast. I'm thinking no.

Doesn't DRK have access to some PLD high def / emn gear? And where is the info on the cast time for Dread Spikes, I didn't see it anywhere.

I understand it's a wildly speculative statement, but they could get a shitload of hate obviously... if they could take hits and use these effectively it'd be cool to see happen.

Don't know about a 3 minute recast on spikes though.

"- Dread Spikes (Lv.71 Recast Time: 3 minutes Duration: 1 minute)
Covers you with magical darkness spikes. Steals HP from enemies that hit you. Ineffective against undead. "

Hello to you OP.

[izembo]

they change mobs spells when added, not JA's.

dont know about 3min recast on spikes means he doesnt know how it would work with that recast

[Tajin]

This bonus only applies to attacks from an opponent who you are auto-attacking with a drawn weapon.

Go go melee WHM, SMN, BLM, RDM etc.

Amazing, after 5 pages, and still beat me to it
Maybe i can try and ungimp NIN and BST >.>; afterall

[Xavier]

I'm lazy at math. Whats a 3minute magic recast realistically looking to be in a semi-haste setup?

[tyraravenlocke]

The also put in a qualifier that the damage done by the spikes incurrs no emnity whatsoever, since its a "reactive" ability.

Which.. while it means you cannot use it to tank.. does in fact mean that if you mistakenly draw hate with it on, you pretty much will suffer no penalty for doing so.

So... purposefully drawing hate to heal yourself to full might be a viable option for darks now.

ninja edit: Obviously my above statement depends highly on how much damage the spikes do.

[Ryko]

Assuming you have march and haste on in exp you're looking somewhere in the realm of 1:40-1:45ish

[TT]

about 2 min

[Xavier]

Not too terrible if it lasts a minute, I guess the big question is what the cap for damage absorbed is going to be in relation to your max hp.