03/07 Data mining thread

[Havocxx]

Automaton items:

Flame Holder:
Converts the energy of a fire maneuver
into attack power during weapon skills
Charge: 1 Fire

Ice Maker
Converts the energy of an ice
maneuver into magic attack when
casting elemental magic spells
Charge: 1 Ice

For Mioko

[BRP]

Ice Maker [Ice:1]
Converts the energy of an ice
maneuver into magic attack when
casting elemental magic spells.

Flame Holder [Fire:1]
Converts the energy of a fire maneuver
into attack power during weapon skills.

Found this on the FFXIonline.com data mining thread.

Pretty fucking nice, I'd say.

And I seriously doubt Alexander being summonable... even more so this update and that being the summoning model.

[Seditedi]

Can anyone find the MP cost on the new DRK spells :/ They don't show up for me anywhere.

On another page with data mining it showed Drain II to cost 5 MP... It was 5 MP cost, 3 second casting time, 1 minute recast.

Might be a mistake? Seems insanely low for an MP cost.

Update apparently broke the POLUtils "String Tables" category in a variety of ways, such as none of the new missions/quests/key items were added, or titles for that matter. The magic list broke too, where the information appears to be the same but the names are removed. I found a spell that was only usable by 62 DRK, which I presume to be Drain II, and the information on it says 78 MP, 3 second cast, 44 second recast, but any or all of that information might be broken with the update as well.

SE did alot to POL this update.
POL scans all your running processes when you load it up as well. Windower users should be careful, not sure what they do with the information after the scan, but it could be possible they flag your account if they find a windower process running.

[Jeryhn]

The fact that in FFXI Alexander is an automaton, not an avatar, might debunk the theory though.

What's preventing the soul of an avatar from inhabiting the body of an automaton (like Cardians vs. their creators)?

[Fallso]

Egg hat is fugly as hell

[Boyiee]

No new HNM this update

don't know about everyone else, but this update has so much to offer in terms of new places to go, things to do, and TONS of shit to find (like how to obtain new items/ulli) i'll be too busy to be fucking around with some new HNM at least for a couple weeks.

[Khamsin]

The fact that in FFXI Alexander is an automaton, not an avatar, might debunk the theory though.

I always thought automatons were built out of inspiration from Alexander, not that Alexander himself was an automaton. I seem to recall him being referred to as an "automaton-like being". However, it still wouldn't stop him from being an avatar, given that birds and fish have become avatars, as well.

[NynJa]

SE did alot to POL this update.
POL scans all your running processes when you load it up as well. Windower users should be careful, not sure what they do with the information after the scan, but it could be possible they flag your account if they find a windower process running.

Anyone know anything else about this ??

Seems kinda important, and could be a huge damper on this update.

[Tradition]

Perdu Hanger

Does it dispense chicken?

[Koga]

SE did alot to POL this update.
POL scans all your running processes when you load it up as well. Windower users should be careful, not sure what they do with the information after the scan, but it could be possible they flag your account if they find a windower process running.

More Info on this? or speculation?

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Vorpal Sword
DMG:39 Delay:224
Linkshell, CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 RDM


Wightslayer
DMG:41 Delay:236
Linkshell, CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 BLU


Brave Blade
DMG:44 Delay:264
Linkshell, CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 PLD

Double Axe
DMG:46 Delay:312
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 BST


Swordbreaker
DMG:27 Delay:200
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 THF


Dancing Dagger
DMG:27 Delay:183
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 BRD


Radiant Lance
DMG:90 Delay:492
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 DRG

Sasuke Katana
DMG:33 Delay:227
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 NIN


Sturdy Axe
DMG:87 Delay:504
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 WAR

Mage's Staff
DMG:55 Delay:402
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 BLM


Scepter Staff
DMG:55 Delay:402
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 SMN

Killer Bow
DMG:36 Delay:288
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 RNG


Quicksilver
DMG:31 Delay:480
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 COR

Burning Fists
DMG:+16 Delay:+96
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 MNK

Inferno Claws
DMG:+15 Delay:+49
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 PUP

Werebuster
DMG:29 Delay:267
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 WHM

Death Sickle
DMG:90 Delay:528
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 DRK

Some of these weapons are reminiscent of weapons from other Final Fantasy games. Some of the ones I;ve listed were the weakest weapons that class could use(Mage Staff) whereas others were their classes' ultimate weapons (Susuke Katana)

Vorpal Blade was RDM's best weapon in FF1 next to Sunsword/Masamune. Dancing Dagger was that awsome knife in FF5 that when attacking either did normal damage,did 4x damage,or confused an eneny,casted a random bard song. Radiant Lance is I suppose "Holy Lance" however, Holy Lance is already taken by that crappy lvl 54 garbage.

Maybe these are new relic-esque type weapons that need to be upgraded? Or are perhaps rewards from beating TOAU?

[Cautery]

Can someone post an updated database for ModelViewer with these new gears + the others from previous patch?

[Beckwin]

SE did alot to POL this update.
POL scans all your running processes when you load it up as well. Windower users should be careful, not sure what they do with the information after the scan, but it could be possible they flag your account if they find a windower process running.

oh fuck

[Septimus]

The fact that in FFXI Alexander is an automaton, not an avatar, might debunk the theory though.

What's preventing the soul of an avatar from inhabiting the body of an automaton (like Cardians vs. their creators)?

Phoenix took up residence in a sword then bonded with a mortal. Not like it hasn't happened before.

[Kaylia]

The fact that in FFXI Alexander is an automaton, not an avatar, might debunk the theory though.

What's preventing the soul of an avatar from inhabiting the body of an automaton (like Cardians vs. their creators)?

[edit]dammit, where did my post go >_>


Alexender and Odin both have a constellation with the other 6 elemental summon. They also "own" the respective darkness and light star. I think it's a fair assumption to think they are summon for now, even if they might never be summonable.

[Rentwokay]

Also:
Vorpal Sword (Sword)
DMG:39 Delay:224
Linkshell, CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 RDM


Dancing Dagger (Dagger)
DMG:27 Delay:183
CanEquip, NoSale, Ex, Rare
LV75 BRD

With this, Assuming it gives RDM the WS Vorpal Blade without a WAR/DRK/PLD sub as it implies, or Dancing Edge for BRD. It might be reasonable to think other jobs might get similar items in the future. Maybe Swift Blade for BLU, or Asuran for PUP.

This is an interesting concept if this is true. There's gotta be some hidden effect or it wouldn't make any sense.

Granted, this was said on Allakhazam, but it's worth mentioning anyway, I guess... Somebody posted in the datamining thread and said the Dancing Dagger / Vorpal Blade / etc. job-specific weapons have been lurking in the DAT files for a while without every materializing in-game.

Why they're suddenly popping up in all the datamining threads now, I have no idea, but maybe something about them "changed" which suggests they can be obtained somewhere now.

Or, maybe it's just a crock of shit.

[Jg]

No new HNM this update

don't know about everyone else, but this update has so much to offer in terms of new places to go, things to do, and TONS of shit to find (like how to obtain new items/ulli) i'll be too busy to be fucking around with some new HNM at least for a couple weeks.

No joke, if they added any more awesomeness to this update I wouldn't be able to stop playing for who knows how long. As it is I'm gonna need a "get out of RL free card" for the next few days

[Xajii]

The fact that in FFXI Alexander is an automaton, not an avatar, might debunk the theory though.

I always thought automatons were built out of inspiration from Alexander, not that Alexander himself was an automaton. I seem to recall him being referred to as an "automaton-like being". However, it still wouldn't stop him from being an avatar, given that birds and fish have become avatars, as well.

The cliche "Automaton that HAS A SOUL" is also possible for Alexander

[Uzor]

Can anyone find the MP cost on the new DRK spells :/ They don't show up for me anywhere.

On another page with data mining it showed Drain II to cost 5 MP... It was 5 MP cost, 3 second casting time, 1 minute recast.

Might be a mistake? Seems insanely low for an MP cost.

Update apparently broke the POLUtils "String Tables" category in a variety of ways, such as none of the new missions/quests/key items were added, or titles for that matter. The magic list broke too, where the information appears to be the same but the names are removed. I found a spell that was only usable by 62 DRK, which I presume to be Drain II, and the information on it says 78 MP, 3 second cast, 44 second recast, but any or all of that information might be broken with the update as well.

SE did alot to POL this update.
POL scans all your running processes when you load it up as well. Windower users should be careful, not sure what they do with the information after the scan, but it could be possible they flag your account if they find a windower process running.

Good thing I always update POL through the real program then

[thestalkmore]

Can anyone find the MP cost on the new DRK spells :/ They don't show up for me anywhere.

On another page with data mining it showed Drain II to cost 5 MP... It was 5 MP cost, 3 second casting time, 1 minute recast.

Might be a mistake? Seems insanely low for an MP cost.

Update apparently broke the POLUtils "String Tables" category in a variety of ways, such as none of the new missions/quests/key items were added, or titles for that matter. The magic list broke too, where the information appears to be the same but the names are removed. I found a spell that was only usable by 62 DRK, which I presume to be Drain II, and the information on it says 78 MP, 3 second cast, 44 second recast, but any or all of that information might be broken with the update as well.

SE did alot to POL this update.
POL scans all your running processes when you load it up as well. Windower users should be careful, not sure what they do with the information after the scan, but it could be possible they flag your account if they find a windower process running.

nooooo.......please don't ruin this epic update SE