Should I be running windower?

[Elesirdur]

loading recast plugin caused it to crash on me

It seems like all the plugins and third-party programs that read data from the game are broken. ZeroCast, shadow and ammo counters, they're all broken. Perhaps they put some new guards into prevent people from accessing the memlocks for that kind of information. TParty still seems to work though.

[Taj]

http://www.windower.net/downloads/Hook.dll

I highly recommend you update ;o

[Koga]

loading recast plugin caused it to crash on me

It seems like all the plugins and third-party programs that read data from the game are broken. ZeroCast, shadow and ammo counters, they're all broken. Perhaps they put some new guards into prevent people from accessing the memlocks for that kind of information. TParty still seems to work though.

It's called Offsets. They change when new data is added to the main file.

[Vixy]

http://www.windower.net/downloads/Hook.dll

I highly recommend you update ;o

New Hook.DLL

-- Disregard this post.. -Wiccan @www.windower.net

?

[draxyl]

Just download the 3.24 package instead of the individual hook.dll is what they are saying.

[Demian]

So it's not safe to run older version of windower D!

[Aratharn]

They won't ban people running windower.

They'd lose way too much money.

[nivaud]

So it's not safe to run older version of windower D!

don't people know by now that after you do an update you always should update your windower?

always.

[Demian]

Hmm, lol I've had this windower since the update that fixed the sanction crashing problem and nothing has happened :O haha.

[xingoo]

Hell, I can't play without it. I want to check forums and turn on/off winamp without logging out.

[Ashira]

The really funny thing is if you start WoW while you have windower-ed ffxi running, apparently warden kills it lol.

Hmm. Dunno about that, I've spent time between windows at camps in WoW to pass the time... >.>

[Taj]

The really funny thing is if you start WoW while you have windower-ed ffxi running, apparently warden kills it lol.

Hmm. Dunno about that, I've spent time between windows at camps in WoW to pass the time... >.>

Yeah, I've played FFXI and WoW at the same time, it doesn't kill it. Not sure where he got that idea from.

[Naramaska]

FFXI gets (very) bitchy if something else takes fullscreen while it's running and will auto-terminate every time.

[Senoska]

I dunno if my post deserved its own thread so;

It appears they actually are indeed scanning the processes, how ever, there is currently [as far as I could tell] nothing that allows them to do this in their TOS. They did not "Ninja" anything in.

So I have a few questions to go along with this. Is this actually legal? You are NOT agreeing to allow them to do this, they do not inform you in anyway sort and or form [as far as I have been able to tell] that they are scanning processes. On that note, can anyone confirm there is nothing in the TOS? Maybe I had missed something.

Using ProcessGuard you get this when loading Playonline;
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/83/blockwl4.jpg

If you are running any other programs at the time, it will try to scan those.

That being said, if anyone acually wants to sue SE according to this you can right now[again assuming I understood everything in their TOS]

Also something interesting:
http://www.file.net/process/pol.exe.html

The process PlayOnline Viewer belongs to the software PlayOnline Viewer by SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.

Description: File pol.exe is located in a subfolder of "C:\Program Files". Known file sizes on Windows XP are 641536 bytes (66% of all occurrence), 949760 bytes, 645632 bytes.
The program has a visible window. It is not a Windows system file. Program listens for or sends data on open ports to LAN or Internet. It can change the behavior of other programs or manipulate other programs. pol.exe is able to record inputs, monitor applications. Therefore the technical security rating is 35% dangerous.

Any input on this would be nice. I will be leaving for up north today and will be back Sunday. Interested in your replys.

[Fallso]

Errr, Taj?

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f46/Monstreek/pol.jpg

[Taj]

I knew about this long before I posted that it was safe to use, and it still is.

[Fallso]

What exactly is POL doing trying to read launcher.exe then?

[Janeru]

does pol still run if you block it from reading launcher.exe?

[Eireann]

I noticed my UI mod I had installed got overwritten.. at least partially D:3 But seriously, what LW said, if they ban windower users before some flagrant asswipes who pos hack-claim nms... meh.. oft to wow i spose!

This game falls under the sucks category without windower, it even says at the beginning "Please don't forget about your family, friends, etc etc" WELL I guess it'd be nice if I could check email or IM while in game.

The only time I do not use windower is during updates because I suffered a horrible computer crash the last time it bailed at 99%. I pretty much had to reinstall windows and everything.. it was quite troublesome. I wouldn't sweat it if POL is looking for windower, I could care less.

[Seditedi]

It never scanned prior to this update. I've been using Process Guard for months and this is the first time i received that message too.

It scans EVERY process running, doesn't look for specific names, I added firefox.exe for testing and yea got message for firefox.exe too.

I still think it can see the name launcher.exe in the scan though, to be safe I renamed mine to something that SE wouldn't see as Windower.