Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

[sekaran]

1/13 or something on lv20 now.. THF for about 9 of them. ><

[Lordwafik]

The group I go with is 2/18 on floor 20, both of which were Goliard Clogs. D: We're beginning to give up hope on getting Askar or Denali.

Wasn't it confirmed that the same leader will always have static drops? Like you'll always get that drop each time so long as you enter with the same tag?

[Julian]

lol my group has 5 askar shoes now

Still only 1 goliard and... 3 denali? i think, maybe 2

[Viq]

The group I go with is 2/18 on floor 20, both of which were Goliard Clogs. D: We're beginning to give up hope on getting Askar or Denali.

Wasn't it confirmed that the same leader will always have static drops? Like you'll always get that drop each time so long as you enter with the same tag?

If you mean that one person as leader only gets one item (for example: if I'm leader and everytime my group does floor 20 we only get Askar) then that is false. My group has gotten all three shoes and I'm the only person in the group with data saved higher than level 0.

[Wizerd]

"kite it" ROFL

Kiting Fafnir in Nyzul Isle with that huge room works surprisingly well. Maybe not with that party setup, but with 3 BLMs it goes down in about 1 minute and he is very Gravityable.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Gonna need extra verification for the following enemies that were "verified" under FFXIclopedia's list of possible specified enemies (single):
-Archaic Ramparts (I honestly think these guys are there just to spit out non-frog/flan/flayer/rat/imp/archaic enemies, or at least be the reason they are there (in other words, you don't see the spitting and you'r supposed to use your imagination))
-Psycheflayers (Seem a bit odd, but if they appear outside of "Eliminate specified enemies" then I'd say these can be under "Eliminate specified enemy")
-Black Puddings (Also seem odd, but if they appear outside of "Eliminate specified enemies" (aren't those Ebony Puddings anyway?) then I'd say these can be under "Eliminate specified enemy")

Also, wondering if both or just 1 of the enemies in the following pairs appear in Nyzul:
Ironshells / Gratclaws (Crabs)
Mousses / Puddings (Slimes)

EDIT: Also what jobs can draugar spawn as?

Also, is it possible that the Astral Plinth/Candy section will be used for a ToAU mission? My current theory is that is where the final battle will take place. >_>

[Judai]

Seen both mouses and puddings. Seen Flayers and puddings on Specified Enemy Floors but they were never the ITG enemy. Never seen Ramparts as Specified enemy, they do count for All enemies though.

edit: wording

[TT]

there always seems to be 1 archaic rampart on every floor cept for the free floor with the treasure chests.

specific enemies ive gotten: psycheflayers, qiqirin, chariots, imps, porogo gents(frogs), and maybe something else? qiqirin prolly easiest and psycheflayers hardest.

theres also specifed enemy (<-- not plural) which seems it can be any single, normal, non-nm mob... the mob will however check ITG while other mobs identical to it wont. this is prolly easiest floor next to the one lamp deal where everyone just has to touch it.... besides of course the free floor.

drauger is WAR or BLM-usually has ice spikes up.
ive had mouse and puddings on same floor.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Reports of both slimes appearing on the same floor have led me to believe that each floor has a theme (See http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Talk:As..._Investigation):
Beast theme: Karakul / Tigers / Manticores / Mairds
Lizard theme: Lizards / Raptors / Bugards / Wivres
Vermin theme: Eruca / Spinners / Wamouracampa / Wamoura
Plant theme: Funguars / Flytraps / Leshies / Ameretat
Bird theme: Crows / Colibri / Ziz / Rocs
Aquan theme: Crabs (Ironshells & Greatcalws?) / Pugils / Krakens
Amorphic theme: Leeches / Hecteyes / Slimes (Mousses & Puddings) / Black Puddings (???)
Arcane theme: Evil weapons (killing/ominous) / Pots / Bombs / Clusters
Undead theme: Hounds / Toads / Draugar (is it really WAR/BLM and not THF (dagger)/BLM (staff)?) / Bhoot
Dragon theme: Puks / Wyverns
Dahak theme: Dahak (they are separate??)
Demon theme: Imps / Psycheflayers (???)

a .dat listing of everything before the Bat Eye would help

[Alpsyche]

The group I go with is 2/18 on floor 20, both of which were Goliard Clogs. D: We're beginning to give up hope on getting Askar or Denali.

Wasn't it confirmed that the same leader will always have static drops? Like you'll always get that drop each time so long as you enter with the same tag?

I can debunk this.

L20 - Me leader.
2 Golliard
1 Askar

[Suiram]

I think someone misread your question or something earlier regarding puddings. Nothing in Nyzul--both from my experiences there and from a quick check of the .dat file for the zone--is named simply, "Pudding". Furthermore, every slime I've ever encountered there has been named "Mousse". There are however, both Black Pudding and Ebody Pudding, and both are from the "Black Pudding" family of monsters. They can appear together in the same floor as well. For example, several times we've had "Eliminate Specified Enemies", where the Ebony Pudding were the targets, but there were also Decent Challenge Mousse and Black Pudding wandering around the floor as well.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Okay, so I'm going to assume that the first time someone put "pudding" as possible single specified enemy they meant Black Pudding. I hate SE for introducing them as black puddings, and then mostly calling them "flan" in-game (and using both names in their paragraph thing).

[Suiram]

Also, since you asked and I'm bored, here's a list of everything that occurs before the Bat Eye.

Armoury Crate x20
Archaic Rampart x2
Greatclaw x6
Stygian Pugil x4
Kulshedra x2
Bouncing Ball x3
Thousand Eyes x3
Mousse x4
Black Pudding x2
Killing Weapon x2
Ominous Weapon x2
Magic Flagon x2
Friar's Lantern x2
Sweeping Cluster x2
Friar's Lantern x2
Garm x3
Tainted Flesh x3
Draugar x4
Bhoot x2
Carmine Eruca x3
Spinner x3
Wamouracampa x4
Wamoura x2
Imp x10
Psycheflayer x2
Puk x10
Wyvern x2
Marsh Murre x3
Lesser Colibri x3
Ziz x4
Peryton x2
Wild Karakul x3
Wajaom Tiger x3
Manticore x4
Marid x2
Death Cap x3
Puktrap x3
Leshy x4
Ameretat x2
Sand Lizard x3
Deinonychus x3
Bull Bugard x4
Wivre x2
Bouncing Ball x5
Thousand Eyes x5
Mousse x2
Peryton x10
Mousse x2
Draugar x10
Mousse x8
Black Pudding x6
Killing Weapon x3
Ominous Weapon x3
Magic Flagon x6
Dahak

[Sagacious Sundi]

Thanks a whole bunch! :D If you notice, every 12 mobs is a pattern. Could this be it?:
Layout 1 (Aquans): Greatclaw x 6, Stygian Pugil x 4, Kulshedra x2
Layout 2 (Amorphs): Bouncing Ball x3, Thousand Eyes x3, Mousse x4, Black Pudding x2
Layout 3 (Arcana): Killing Weapon x2, Ominous Weapon x2, Magic Flagon x2, Friar's Lantern x2 (Previously Cannonball x2), Sweeping Cluster x2, Friar's Lantern x2 (Previously Bifrons x2)
Layout 4 (Undead): Garm x3, Tainted Flesh x3, Draugar x4, Bhoot x2
Layout 5 (Vermin): Carmine Eruca x3, Spinner x3, Wamouracampa x4, Wamoura x2
Layout 6 (Demons): Imp x10, Psycheflayer x2
Layout 7 (Dragons): Puk x10, Wyvern x2
Layout 8 (Birds): Marsh Murre x3, Lesser Colibri x3, Ziz x4, Peryton x2
Layout 9 (Beasts): Wild Karakul x3, Wajaom Tiger x3, Manticore x4, Marid x2
Layout 10 (Plantoids): Death Cap x3, Puktrap x3, Leshy x4, Ameretat x2
Layout 11 (Lizards): Sand Lizard x3, Deinonychus x3, Bull Bugard x4, Wivre x2
Layout 12 (Amorphs #2): Bouncing Ball x5, Thousand Eyes x5, Mousse x2
Layout 13 (Other): Peryton x10, Mousse x2
Layout 14 (Other #2): Draugar x10, Mousse x2
Layout 15 (Amorphs #3): Mousse x6, Black Pudding x6
Layout 16 (Arcana #2): Killing Weapon x3, Ominous Weapon x3, Magic Flagon x6
Layout 17 (Dahak): Dahak x1

How's that sound? (Why did they choose Mousses to repeat and mix with other mobs towards the end?) Also, do some of the bombs cast magic?

EDIT: Gave the layouts names.

Also, maybe specified plural mobs and gears come in 5 different numbers depending on the floor? Perhaps:
Specified plural mobs: 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 mobs total
Single gears: 4, 8, 12, 16, or 20 mobs total
Triple gears: 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10 mobs total

Another edit: According to the JP wiki, "the fountain of magic is used" is Vile Yabeewa's special power. Wuzzat mean?

[Imperial]

Had really good floors last run.

On 16-20 most interesting thing was 'kill all mobs' floor but there were only 4 mobs total on the whole floor.

And of 3 runs not once did we get any gears on any floor.

Very random.

[aurik]

Another edit: According to the JP wiki, "the fountain of magic is used" is Vile Yabeewa's special power. Wuzzat mean?

Manafont.

[Geli]

I wonder what do floors with 2 possible exits (exit to the left and exit to the right ones) mean?
Can you predict what to choose or it's just random and you'll get some restrictions for wrong choice?

And about these restrictions - we've got floor with kill all / avoid gears... got some shit like restricted Summoning Magic (w/o single SMN in PT), CHR down (again no BRDs to suffer from it) and at last Black Magic down which was enough to wipe totally. Restrictions for choosing wrong path are that random too?

[TT]

left or right is usually either a pathos(debuff) or buff... in the case of the buff we have gotten auto haste (stacks with haste spell), auto regen, auto regain, INT boost, STR boost, and CHR boost.

[vagus]

left or right is usually either a pathos(debuff) or buff... in the case of the buff we have gotten auto haste (stacks with haste spell), auto regen, auto regain, INT boost, STR boost, and CHR boost.

This is promising. I will take notes next time i come to a crossroad.

[Sidra]

Just to add to the potential list of buffs: auto refresh

We got it last night; it was the first time I've seen it