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  1. #641
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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    It doesn't scale. Some people claimed it scaled because they got some easy floors when they had less people but that's all they were, easy floors. I think it would be pretty hard with only 3 people, sometimes you get some really shitty floors.

    The only thing that would scale is Lamp floors, I don't think there can be more lamps then people. (unless someone d/cs)

    Really, I would say get more people. It will more then likely be hard to complete sets easily with 3.

    (I could be wrong on the scaling, never went with less then 4. In my experience it was always the same though, whether 4 or 6 people and the floors we breezed through with 6, we struggled with 4.)
    Untrue. I run with a group of 4 people, sometimes we go with just 3 though, and I've seen it a few times where we've entered with 3 people and had 4 lamps.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Narse
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    It doesn't scale. Some people claimed it scaled because they got some easy floors when they had less people but that's all they were, easy floors. I think it would be pretty hard with only 3 people, sometimes you get some really shitty floors.

    The only thing that would scale is Lamp floors, I don't think there can be more lamps then people. (unless someone d/cs)

    Really, I would say get more people. It will more then likely be hard to complete sets easily with 3.

    (I could be wrong on the scaling, never went with less then 4. In my experience it was always the same though, whether 4 or 6 people and the floors we breezed through with 6, we struggled with 4.)
    Untrue. I run with a group of 4 people, sometimes we go with just 3 though, and I've seen it a few times where we've entered with 3 people and had 4 lamps.
    Going to have to agree with this, during one of my first attempts at Nyzul, we only had 3 people, and thinking it would scale, went on up. Got a lamps floor where there was 5 lamps, for only 3 of us.
    Of course it was activate at the same time and one lamp was well beyond the others, so we could only manage to activate 4/5 and thus lost on that floor :/

  3. #643
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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    That's lame as shit but just proves I was right about it not scaling, lol..

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Don't know where else to put it, so here goes.

    What's the most tokens you've ever gotten from one run?

    http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/10floors.jpg

    Floors 76 through 85. Good luck early, but had a huge kill all floor on 85 that took over 5 minutes and had us scrambling to exit on time to get progress recorded.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Weeks
    Don't know where else to put it, so here goes.

    What's the most tokens you've ever gotten from one run?

    http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/10floors.jpg

    Floors 76 through 85. Good luck early, but had a huge kill all floor on 85 that took over 5 minutes and had us scrambling to exit on time to get progress recorded.

    holy shit.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by mat
    Quote Originally Posted by Weeks
    Don't know where else to put it, so here goes.

    What's the most tokens you've ever gotten from one run?

    http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/10floors.jpg

    Floors 76 through 85. Good luck early, but had a huge kill all floor on 85 that took over 5 minutes and had us scrambling to exit on time to get progress recorded.

    holy shit.
    fuck you my group got stuck with so many shitty floors 76-80 resulting in losses they we gave up farming bodies and nyzul all together so we could assault more for salvage

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    God damn, nice run, Weeks.

    We've cleared 8 floors in a row a few times and did 9 once, but we always chicken out and exit if we clear a floor and there's 5 or less minutes left on the clock.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    That was actually like 2 weeks ago. Saw it looking through my screenshots and figured it would be a fun thing to compare against other groups. I'd imagine someone has done better, if for no other reason than they didn't have a boss to deal with. Even Khimaira (I think he was the boss that run) slows you down a fair bit.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by Weeks
    Don't know where else to put it, so here goes.

    What's the most tokens you've ever gotten from one run?

    http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...i/10floors.jpg

    Floors 76 through 85. Good luck early, but had a huge kill all floor on 85 that took over 5 minutes and had us scrambling to exit on time to get progress recorded.


    Even on the lower level floors we get stuck with huge rooms, our luck is not that great. Sometimes after we kill a king we'll have enough time to do one or two more floors after but thats about it I think. lol

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Have anyone seen full Nyzul set yet ?

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by eva00r
    Have anyone seen full Nyzul set yet ?
    Yes, Askar, HP+10%

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    I know there are some 4/5 denali sets floating around (including myself). I'm missing the bonnet, and theoretically I could have it anywhere between tomorrow and never.

    Askar is 10% hp+.

    If Goliard is anything like Amir, maybe an 8% MDB effect?

    Denali: acc +10%?

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    there's no way denali would be +10% acc, that's just too generous

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by recuperi
    there's no way denali would be +10% acc, that's just too generous

    denali is +4 acc.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by mat
    Quote Originally Posted by recuperi
    there's no way denali would be +10% acc, that's just too generous

    denali is +4 acc.
    Yeah, much too generous. +4 acc seems too low, though.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    There's a rdm on Kujata with full goliard, I'll ask him if he's tested it next time I see him. I don't personally know the guy though might be a while before I can track him down again.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    I think he's in my LS. I'll ask. It wasn't very high. I know the MDB was pretty poor.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan
    I think he's in my LS. I'll ask. It wasn't very high. I know the MDB was pretty poor.
    Please make sure he didn't test in ballista/diorama, as that won't give you any good practical number (except for how well it performs in ballista). If he did, or if he hasn't formally tested it yet, the best thing to do would be to find a worm (The ones by Phantom Worm pop in Kuftal are high enough level and safe from links and other aggro) having no buffs and wearing no gear besides goliard head/hands/legs/feet, get hit with a few spells, then put on body, get hit by the same spells, then report here the damage taken before and after, as well as the job/sub he was on at the time. Watch out as they tend to deaggro when they cast quake for some reason. The whole thing shouldn't take longer than about 30 minutes. Oh and make sure it's not windsday or earthday either.

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    Any findings on the weapons yet?

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    Re: Nyzul Isle Initial Findings

    I'm the one on Kujata w/ 5/5 Goliard. Our perma has 5/5 Denali Danky, 4/5 Goliard Vhoori (feet, legs, body, head), 3/5 Askar Hollywood (hands, body, head), 3/5 Askar Luken (hands, feet, body), 2/5 Askar Asmodeous (body, hands), 3/5 Denali Luken (feet, body, head), 3/5 Denali Iago (feet, body, legs). Need Goliard Hands, 3x Askar Legs, 2x Askar Feet, 2x Askar Head, Denali Head, Denali Hands for each of our perma members to comlete a full set. Plus an assortment of other sets that have gone freelot. We've done 26 runs of floor 100 w/ 3 Goliard, 1 Askar, 5-6 Denali for drops w/ Th4 on nearly every run. Not tested specific amount for set bonus. Simply have the set w/ other items such as Unfettered Ring, Gobniu's Ring, Lamia Mantle +1 in a macro for when I anticipate an incoming -aga3 or AM or Astral Flow. As Bard I pull for most events I do and from my use the set w/ other pieces is noticeable enough to carry.

    As for weapons a Pup in our ls has said she noticed a triple attack occur as well as added lightning damage. One Sam reported seeing abnormally high crits occasionally, and a Nin has also reported occasional triple attacks w/ the Katana. These are only second hand accounts they've told me about, so I can't verify them.

    Our system for Nyzul has used two accounts both with access to level 100. My brother uses the armband to enter us if doing a floor 100 run, then I pay the 1900 tokens for access the 96th floor. Since I'm warping out he gains the +10% tokens as the assault leader. We repeat this process until my tokens are below 1900 needed for the run. We then switch to doing a 20, 40, 60, or 80 run w/ me obtaining the armband and my brother paying the tokens for the lower levels. This refills my tokens which will replenish his when we do the next 100 providing us unlimited hnm runs by bouncing two accounts. Think we are around the 35-40 pieces obtained mark w/ use of nearly all tags since the release of Nyzul.

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