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  1. #761
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnightjade View Post
    I've started taking poison pots - speeds up some floors when mobs are spamming sleepga.

    By the way, is anyone else seeing odd droprates on the weapons since update? We've had at least 6 Werebusters in the last 10 days in our static (9 tags total).

    I know it's meant to be random, but if this trend continues it's going to break the statistics. Really very weird.
    I wish we'd seen one lol.. we've had a lot of sch staves and dnc daggers but not a whole lot of the jobs we need.

  2. #762
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    We usually get the same damn weapons over and over (SCH, WHM, SAM, BRD, DNC). Every so often we will get the odd BLU or PLD, but that's generally a one time event. Oh and has anyone else noticed the fucked up drop rate on HNMs?

  3. #763
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhealana View Post
    PLD is more or less pointless in Nyzul. The one thing you ever need a 'tank' for is the boss, and Fanatics is all you really should ever need anyways.
    Seriously? A PLD/NIN sporting a decent DD build for normal floors and a tank build for Bossess is pretty helpful. Beng able to suppliment cures for the DDs and being able to flash out nasty moves helps too. Plus, Cover on that raging DD is nice on the tougher mobs that hit like a truck. Add one of the ToAU throwing rings for those magic aggro pulls, and you have one nice all around useful member.

    Added bonus if you have a SAM: Swift Blade is a nice 'not piece of crap' Darkness opener for Gekko, especially if they don't have Rana yet. Nom Nom Nom.

    I'll be the first to admit that a shitty PLD in Nyzul will suck hard though, but it's usually more about the person playing the job, not the job itself.

  4. #764
    Puppetmaster
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    Used a PLD in Nyzul since started doing it, just make sure they know what they are doing and have a good DD setup. But if they don't...ya they suck hard.

  5. #765
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    Our group has a pld/nin on every run, including climbs. On kill-all floors or single specific enemy it may not be so neccesary but it really comes in handy on floors with a boss, chariots, or, heaven forbid, flayers.

    Often in nyzul it's advantageous to plan for the worst (5 chariots go!) and hope for the best.

  6. #766
    Lostbane
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    Well we messed around with jobs last night and we were a bit unsettled. Our best run was actually the one where the SAM didn't change to RDM (confusion...) and I ended up WHM/SCH and no other mage. We got lucky on the mobs for that run, but not the objectives.

    We did 4 runs and found the custards/puddings slow but the rest faster. Damage on the bosses at 60 without a BLM was better but I think we missed stun a bit in general.

    I think we may go with trying SCH for climbing. I don't think SCH/RDM is going to be as good for these bosses as WHM/SCH but I'm open to comment on that.

    I think we'll go with trying Doyler's DRK next time as he found it wasn't quite as ungeared as he thought.

    WHM/SCH or SCH/RDM
    BLU/NIN
    WAR/NIN
    SAM
    BRD/WHM
    DRK

    is my thought.

    I was much happier on WHM for the last 2 runs than on BRD earlier and /hurray for my new Goliard cuffs.

  7. #767
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    I believe we just had the gayest possible run ever. We went with 5 ppl (war war thf rdm brd)


    96: Kill all..easy
    97: Specified ennemies 3 flayers, no white magic
    98: Kill all, Capricious Cassie in bonus
    99: Specified ennemies, 5 chariots (huge floors), no white magic. avoid discovery

    We didnt wipe, and eventually timed out on last chariot at 10%...but shit...that was horrible

  8. #768
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    blame that fuck judai. he called the 2nd non white magic.

  9. #769
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    No white magic is gay beyond belief, yesterday we had the same on a Cerberus boss floor. We got owned by Ululation bigtime, especially since it was the first TP move it did when it got the chance to (which ate some /ja from the DRK).

  10. #770
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    my best was flayers floor with imp/flayer setup

    so that makes the floor contain 5 {Impossible to guage} flayers and the NQ flayers

    because thie happen so rarely the thf just pulled all flayers and ended up still unclear after 8th flayer

    leader then proceed to say bugged and call GM

    gotta love JPs, and i dont speak JP that well so i didnt bother to explain.

  11. #771
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    Kill all with cassie makes my eyes bleed, no white magic on dahak and boss floors is asdfjkl;, but I think the worst I ever had was a no WS floor on Adamantoise.

  12. #772
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    I believe we just had the gayest possible run ever. We went with 5 ppl (war war thf rdm brd)


    96: Kill all..easy
    97: Specified ennemies 3 flayers, no white magic
    98: Kill all, Capricious Cassie in bonus
    99: Specified ennemies, 5 chariots (huge floors), no white magic. avoid discovery

    We didnt wipe, and eventually timed out on last chariot at 10%...but shit...that was horrible
    Ugh, what a horrible set of floors. We had Kill All with Cassie last night 91-95, but the rest of the set was ok (lamps, specified enemy, couple of kill all floors with birds/beasts) so we won. Cassie is a timesink, no fun at all.

    We hit 100 again last night, so now everyone in the group has Runic Key. Nice to get that done.

  13. #773
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    Our group gos with whm, rdm, thf, sam, blu, pld. Only trouble we have is the all Soulflayers all the time floors, one after the other and then the dahaks ; ;

  14. #774
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    dahaks not that bad if rdm silence, BLU spam head butt and other members that arent tanking always keep 3 shadows up

    WHM only need to cure 1 person

    dont be cheap guys recast your utsu even ur not tanking!

    ^ what i always tell my friends

    BLU also helps if white magic is restricted.....its your local AIG if you have 1 in your group

  15. #775
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    We were absolutely devastated to have no access to summoning magic. Obviously.

    Sadly we did an impromptu Salvage run last night because we're thinking about going back to it once we hit 100. (Farming everything for everyone on way up so it's taking a while). Nyzul has killed my previous interest and enthusiasm for Salvage. Pity some of the gear in Salvage is so nice, not sure I have the patience for it anymore.

  16. #776
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    We had Taisaijin at least three times on Sunday night. At one point he cast Refresh and the entire party proceeded to LOL. Good to know SE still has their sense of humor.

  17. #777
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    Progress is saved to 70 right now so we'll have access to bodies next time. How often are people getting anything decent appraised from the ??? items?

    I don't know if we're having abyssmal luck but I've only ever seen 2-3 NM items and none of those the biggies you'd want or worth more than about 100k. This isn't my first static either...

  18. #778
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    In the original/previous static I was in, I think we got 2 Ungur Boomerangs and a Spelunker's Hat. Not sure how many runs we did before the static died, but we killed quite a few (50+) NMs. The 2 Boomerangs came in consecutive weeks.

    In the current group I run, I think our only real drop is a Bomb Ring <_>. This is doing 3 runs/week since August 10th. We generally kill all NMs unless we're low on time.

  19. #779
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    I'd estimate 3-5% rate, seen bat cape + viking shield + namikiru or whatever zillahs katana is off of the same run before though

  20. #780
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    3-5%
    This is accurate. If I had to pick one number I'd say 5%. That screenshot posted a while back of 2 trotter's boots in a loot pool in whitegate really blew my mind. We've gotten some nice items though overall, an Empress Hairpin, Leaping Boots, Cassie Earring, those DRK pants that enhance souleater... How much out of your way do people tend to go for NMs in Nyzul? For instance if Argus or Bloodsucker or some other PITA (to camp) NM is up on a lamp floor... I keep thinking that even a 5% chance at a rare item might be better than the tokens and/or chance at armor that you can always try for again next tag.

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