Ulli: Rare pop item

[LinktheDeme]

Anyone confirm if Celestial Nexus Statues drop as well?

[aurik]

Fought 2 loops of nexus status with no drop. Other groups reporting the same. While it's not conclusive, there's the results so far.

Draxyl is right, Despot is much more accessible than Ulli. While I can see some competition for it, I think the choke points in sky now are Faust, Zip, and MG. (Especially since every Sky LS usually has like a dozen despot gems waiting on the autumnstone)

[Khamsin]

It'll be interesting to see if Despot's gauntlet will change from people camping at the entrance to the shrine and pulling dolls, to camping in the middle of all the groundskeepers and just killing as they pop, like people used to do in Ulli's room.

[Allundaria]

I think the 5 minute pops on the Groundskeepers coupled with the 2 hour repop window will keep Despot from turning into an RMT lockdown for the most part.

Ulli was optimal for them in that they only had to be paying attention for a very short period of time to kill the placeholder or grab the NM. Once that task was completed they could go back to idling in the tunnels for 16 minutes or go man other computers in the gil farm to camp other NMs.

With more than one PH, a short window, and a rapid repop rate for the groundskeepers it will be much more difficult.

[Naramaska]

The thing is that one person controlling six characters killing Aura Statues is a helluva lot easier than one person controlling six fighting mobs that self-destruct and take Taru mages with them.

That, and there's no "easy" way to kill Despot unlike Ulli's run-in-circles-and-sometimes-nuke room. Makes it a bit harder when they have to actively blink tank instead of running in circles while occasionally stopping to nuke, then run in circles again.

[Khamsin]

Does Despot have a single placeholder that can be identified through illicit means, like Ullikummi used to?

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Does Despot have a single placeholder that can be identified through illicit means, like Ullikummi used to?

Has anyone actually put any thought into it before now?

[draxyl]

I don't believe so, I think it's a normal lottery off the 4 or so pops on the sides. Those pops are locked in position, not like the floating ulli pop around that big open room.

[aurik]

It can probably pop in place of any mob in the gauntlet, just nobody bothers kill but the end mobs.

[Aodh]

I'd love to see RMT standing in the middle camping when light weather hits.

[Alathar]

It may be identifiable. A lot of lotteries (I hesitate to say all) can be identified by their placement on wide scan. The placeholder is always in the same place on it. This is the case with Orctrap and Valkurm Emperor. It may be the case with others as well, however, there hasn't been a great deal of investigation into it (most NMs don't have a large enough spawn area to require wide scan).

I'm not going to pretend I know much about computers, but maybe each mob in a zone is assigned an "order" in which it is generated. This is reflected in wide scan and is also how the RMT always knew Ulli PH (I assume they used a hack to find this without wide scan). If it's available via wide scan, it would be available to the client? I can't say what is and isn't possible; however, I wouldn't be surprised if this was how they did Ulli and how they could do Despot.

[Not Kuno]

Well it's been 15 hours since we've camped ulli and nothing yet. THIS PATCH IS SO AWESOME GUYS.

[inafume]

It'll be interesting to see if Despot's gauntlet will change from people camping at the entrance to the shrine and pulling dolls, to camping in the middle of all the groundskeepers and just killing as they pop, like people used to do in Ulli's room.

After one incident where a Despot was "stolen" by some people running through the gauntlet and getting aggro, I always made sure someone stood in the gauntlet waiting on repops while others killed the latest pull.

[draxyl]

Well it's been 15 hours since we've camped ulli and nothing yet. THIS PATCH IS SO AWESOME GUYS.

You've been hanging out with Flux too much

[Wizerd]

Does Despot have a single placeholder that can be identified through illicit means, like Ullikummi used to?

I've popped Despot several times both from dolls in the middle and dolls on the opposite end from where groups usually kill them. So no, I think all of them are placeholders. That's what makes him such a common spawn, instead of being annoying to get. The lottery is sped up if there's umteen more chances for him to spawn next pop, as opposed to a single chance every 16min like ulli had.

[chesh]

Hopefully in a couple weeks when the novelty wears off and it's not completely camped, exping in Ulli's room will be viable again.

LOL. Thats assuming there "isn't" a shit-ton of people who still need haidate, and want to finish Kirin pop sets. How does it feel to live outside of reality?

It's pretty awesome.

Maybe a few months, then. I remember when it was possible to get an autumnstone while exping and I'd like to see those days again. Wouldn't you?

[Weeks]

4 loops of Nexus and no drop. Better exp than I remembered (10k an hour with a 4 man group) but we probably have enough aggregate data by now to say it doesn't drop there.

[NynJa]

4 loops of Nexus and no drop. Better exp than I remembered (10k an hour with a 4 man group) but we probably have enough aggregate data by now to say it doesn't drop there.

maybe but

Well it's been 15 hours since we've camped ulli and nothing yet. THIS PATCH IS SO AWESOME GUYS.

[Dibond]

We got our pop item in about 10 kills up in ulli's aery. GS got it shortly after they realized they needed to kill statues as well. Posterity tells us that its probably just screwed up randomness, but possibilty on some sort of conditional is there as well.

[Skjie]

This is reflected in wide scan and is also how the RMT always knew Ulli PH (I assume they used a hack to find this without wide scan).

It wasn't every hard to figure out which mob was the PHer. All the non PHers always popped in the same places, the PHer would move around. If you killed all the repops twice before they repopped you could easily figure out which one was Ulli.