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  1. #41
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    The Warrior's Mufflers were a mistake. I think it should be obvious, since their level change is listed in known issues. That aside, the new level requirement is only client side. You can still equip them if your Warrior is level 72, you just have to get a little crafty. ;)

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    SE needs to give the THF's that sat in that room trying to claim sozu with a dart against rmt nins and everyone just getting the knife to sell instead of actually use there due. maybe SE should make it worth alot to lol..npc or somthing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafbacca
    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Because every dumbshit thief on the server who couldnt solo Jaggedy Ear Jack or were completely undedicated are going to have a weapon that dedicated thieves who spent a collective 100+++++++ hours on it...
    What about THF's that have spent 100+++ hours camping Sozu, only to have the Mob claimed by RMT bots?

    I've spent way to many 8-10 hour days camping him with my THF friend, only to:
    1. Get claim kill and no drop or 2. Have RMT/Botters get claim.

    Doesn't he deserve a shot at this item?
    Umm... do you not consider #1 in your list of statements 'a shot at this item'. You've killed it numerous times and didnt' get the drop. The world is so unfair, HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO YOU!? /emo

    I've killed that stupid NM well over 70 times and never saw a knife. Oh well.

    You all need to be careful what you wish for.

    Whats going on w/ thf knife is exactly what everyone is screaming and up in arms to have SE do to King drops. But all of a sudden 'every worst thf ever' type has a ridill and dalma you'll just bitch that its too easy, its not special anymore /cry /wrists.

    Not everyone fucks the cheerleader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsx
    Not everyone fucks the cheerleader.
    Is this your big clever ending to calling someone emo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa
    Quote Originally Posted by Dirian
    Thf's knife price is going to absolutely plummit(assuming no roll backs and no drop rate nerfs soon), but other than that I don't see why the economy as a whole will be hit.


    But then economics never was my strong suit.
    Because every dumbshit thief on the server who couldnt solo Jaggedy Ear Jack or were completely undedicated are going to have a weapon that dedicated thieves who spent a collective 100+++++++ hours on it...


    I saw so many fucking gimp thieves in ToU last night, anyone I checked would be worthy of the "worst equipped" thread. Now these retards are going to all get thieves knives with minuscule effort ??
    Maybe now thieves won't be recruited into an HNMLS based on the fact they have a Thief's Knife and now are required to be good at their jobs to join one.

    Shut up, its an encompassing improvement.

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    I believe this isn't going to be such a big deal in the end. I've always maintained that TH ability is really not all its cracked up to be. I've never believed it to be more beneficial to getting rare/ex items to drop (like keys, etc) nor to adding loot to large HNM drops either.

    TH to me has always been the ability to gain more per kill when farming normal mobs. Example:

    My ls has had 2x TH4 characters in the last 3-4 fafnir's and tiamat's, and the tiamat drops have been stuff like 1 siren hair, 1 d.log, etc etc. Fafnir hasn't been any better, e.hands, scale, talon maybe thats it.

    Yet, when I go farming for spiderwebs and or giga socks alone, i'll get a drop rate of 1 drop per 3-4 kills, but if I bring a TH4, its like a drop every kill. Its like when you get 2x goblin armour off the same goblin, or 2x hides off sheep, etc etc. Thats where I believe TH is kicking in, not on HNM stuff.

    most of my LS's biggest HNM drop pools have come with No TH3-4 or just someone with sub Thf. Thats why I think that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackice
    The WAR hands being changed from 72 to 75 makes zero sense, that would mean they'd have to change the body to 72 and swap their respective drop areas.
    the hands and body are both showing as level 75 right now. SE needs to roll it back to 72. They just worded it very very bad.

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn
    Maybe now thieves won't be recruited into an HNMLS based on the fact they have a Thief's Knife and now are required to be good at their jobs to join one.

    Shut up, its an encompassing improvement.
    I've seen this happen many times, and I'm glad it was changed to be like this now.

    If you spent hours and hours camping Thief's Knife before.... /comfort.

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    Forget the THF knife... What about the RMT stealing Pallas, and Alky because they POP YELLOW.

    I dunno about THF knife, and ulli, but Pallas and Alky shouldn't pop yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghent
    Forget the THF knife... What about the RMT stealing Pallas, and Alky because they POP YELLOW.

    I dunno about THF knife, and ulli, but Pallas and Alky shouldn't pop yellow.
    If this, THIS is your big complain then [Inset intelligence questioning insult here].

    How about just wait until the room is empty then spawn it, Jesus Christ, would you like SE to fight the mob for you too? They are going to fix it, just calm down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghent
    Forget the THF knife... What about the RMT stealing Pallas, and Alky because they POP YELLOW.

    I dunno about THF knife, and ulli, but Pallas and Alky shouldn't pop yellow.
    If this, THIS is your big complain then [Inset intelligence questioning insult here].

    How about just wait until the room is empty then spawn it, Jesus Christ, would you like SE to fight the mob for you too? They are going to fix it, just calm down.
    I'm really tired of your attitude towards people on this forum.

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    Why is everyone so bent out of shape over TK? As a knife it's not even that good really. There are better more dmging knifes out there. And, the +1% TH is almost insignificant. Most people relate good luck with the extra TH (3 or 4), whereas in fact, it was just good luck.

    The only people complaining are probably those who spent 20-30M buying this knife. Look what happened to Weskits, or practically everything else in the game. Prices plummeted, everyone felt it. You should have just bought some useful knives like blau dolch or stylet, and patiently camped Rogberry, and saved yourself a few million.

    Also, this dropping like flies is not going to screw the economy, other than for those who spammed this, stopping anyone else from receiving, in order to sell to those who wanted.

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    If this, THIS is your big complain then [Inset intelligence questioning insult here].

    How about just wait until the room is empty then spawn it, Jesus Christ, would you like SE to fight the mob for you too? They are going to fix it, just calm down.

    I'm calm lol, Im talking about RMT camping the spawn point, and claiming it when its popped. Why doesnt it pop claimed? is what I'm saying.

    Stop being an asshole.

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    tried both pallas and alky last night, only pallas pop yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matricide
    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghent
    Forget the THF knife... What about the RMT stealing Pallas, and Alky because they POP YELLOW.

    I dunno about THF knife, and ulli, but Pallas and Alky shouldn't pop yellow.
    If this, THIS is your big complain then [Inset intelligence questioning insult here].

    How about just wait until the room is empty then spawn it, Jesus Christ, would you like SE to fight the mob for you too? They are going to fix it, just calm down.
    I'm really tired of your attitude towards people on this forum.
    Moi? LOL Sorry. /bow.

    I didn't realize that BG was the bastion of kindness and politeness.

  16. #56
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    Maybe now thieves won't be recruited into an HNMLS based on the fact they have a Thief's Knife and now are required to be good at their jobs to join one.
    This is one of the best things to come from said update. It is rather tiring to see someone who wouldn't get into an LS normally get in simply because someone says "BUT ZOMG HE HAS TH3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 11111"

    Because every dumbshit thief on the server who couldnt solo Jaggedy Ear Jack or were completely undedicated are going to have a weapon that dedicated thieves who spent a collective 100+++++++ hours on it...
    Welcome to FFXI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackice
    The WAR hands being changed from 72 to 75 makes zero sense, that would mean they'd have to change the body to 72 and swap their respective drop areas.
    No it wouldn't. It's not as if their levels and drop locations are somehow tied together by some hidden mystical force. It's just data in a table somewhere, and if one number gets changed it doesn't change all the other ones so it "fits".

    But yeah, it does seem a rather random thing to mess up.

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    This reminds me of a similar bitch fest a while back:

    OMG THEY LOWERED XP TO 75! I leveled 6 jobsto 75 with high xp and now my ewang is shrunk because other people can do it too!


    sorry? I mean like...sucks that people spent the time down there but honestly are you more pissed off that you could have waited until now and gotten it easily or that every Tom Dick and Harry will be walking around with something that identified you as WTFPWNHARDCORE? Kinda sound like some spoiled whore on those MTV shows crying because "like OMG daddy EVERYONE has a Fendi bag now and now people don't know how totally superficial and rich I am I must have something that separates me from other people so I can feel complete as a human being!"


    *yawn* grats to the new thfs with TF3, and yay at hopefully every shell getting even a small amount of luck on drops here and there so the endgame isn't quite as soul crushing as it can sometimes be.

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    This reminds me of a similar bitch fest a while back:

    OMG THEY LOWERED XP TO 75! I leveled 6 jobsto 75 with high xp and now my ewang is shrunk because other people can do it too!
    I remember that too lol. Completely retarded, people will find anything to cry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nystul
    This reminds me of a similar bitch fest a while back:

    OMG THEY LOWERED XP TO 75! I leveled 6 jobsto 75 with high xp and now my ewang is shrunk because other people can do it too!


    sorry? I mean like...sucks that people spent the time down there but honestly are you more pissed off that you could have waited until now and gotten it easily or that every Tom Dick and Harry will be walking around with something that identified you as WTFPWNHARDCORE? Kinda sound like some spoiled whore on those MTV shows crying because "like OMG daddy EVERYONE has a Fendi bag now and now people don't know how totally superficial and rich I am I must have something that separates me from other people so I can feel complete as a human being!"


    *yawn* grats to the new thfs with TF3, and yay at hopefully every shell getting even a small amount of luck on drops here and there so the endgame isn't quite as soul crushing as it can sometimes be.
    Think back even further to when they added the mini avatar quests and all the princess SMN were pissed that their "achievements" were belittled.

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