Dread Spikes

[solsovly]

Got this one from a JoL yesterday:

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Wow. That is ... amazing.

edit: too bad it wore before primal drill finished.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

That's...rediculous... or dare I say overpowered...

Honestly, if the MP cost wasn't so high it would be overpowered. Though that+ethereal earring=awesome.

[Rupertt]

That did seem a bit much... Maybe they didn't fully think about how this would work out.

[divisortheory]

That did seem a bit much... Maybe they didn't fully think about how this would work out.

I bet that's it. I bet 40 people sitting in a room looked at the number 336 and they all misread it as 36.

Those same 40 people, when asked the question "Should we make Thief's Knife be 100% drop rate?" answered "I think so, 10% sounds like a good number."

Anyway, I didn't think the JoL Shot was too overpowered. He only drained around 1k HP.

[BRP]

Hmm, that JoL pic is rather tasty. Has anyone gone DRK/WAR in a merit party and not hold back?

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Hmm, that JoL pic is rather tasty. Has anyone gone DRK/WAR in a merit party and not hold back?

Well you still will have to hold back some of the time, 3m recast 1m duration means you can't always have it up, 4s cast time means you cant cast when you pull hate (as DRK/WAR)

[SamanosukeShiva]

does dread spike also proc on enemy's WS/TP move? or melee hit onry?

[Shadida]

Go go gadget DRK Stoneskin!

[wartortle]

does dread spike also proc on enemy's WS/TP move? or melee hit onry?

It works like normal spikes: it can be resisted and it doesn't proc on TP moves. I bet it doesn't work on ranged attacks either.

That said, I was trying to get it to proc for a 10% bonus on darksday and couldn't. I didn't have the right obi, so I couldn't be 100% sure, but it may not be affected by day/weather.

[Sess]

Well you still will have to hold back some of the time, 3m recast 1m duration means you can't always have it up, 4s cast time means you cant cast when you pull hate (as DRK/WAR)

Cool part is its a spell. With homam and turnban was able to get the spell down to ~2:35 min. That's without any haste spells.

does dread spike also proc on enemy's WS/TP move? or melee hit onry?

From my very small test on a spider in Bhaflau Thickets seems to be melee hits only, Sickle Slash wasn't drained by spikes.

[Shuvo]

Almost time for that 'Is DRK the new MNK?" thread, right on schedule ;o

[Buzer]

More survibility for kclub zergs much?

[Garret]

Question about how Drain II's HP Boost works.

Obviously it gets you over your max HP, however if using BW Souleater does your HP go down before the drain effect?

i.e. Can you do Drain II > HP Boost & then keep that full HP Boost during Bloodweapon?

[Kirschy]

When you get the Max HP boost, it becomes your new Max HP for the one minute duration. You can lose some HP and it won't change your new Max. Dread Spikes is 50% of current HP or max HP? I was using Drain II before Dread Spikes when I was playing around, so that explains the range of total spike absorbs.

IMO I still don't see it being overpowered at all. I haven't had a chance to XP with the spell... But I think the only difference is that I'll be more mindful of my MP and Aspir recast time. Keeping up Abs-TP and Dreadspikes with a 400ish MP pool is gonna be rough.

[Beckwin]

Dark Knight is the best bloodtank in the game now.

[Rag]

Imagine drk PT makin dread spikes order VS hnm

Tiamat hit drk#1 twice 600crit+400 thats 1000 hp absorbed (hate free too)

The recast can reach 1.30 with march+haste+homam
Norml DRKS with full HP gear+drainII can reach 2000HP without any problem

So thats 1000damage from the spikes every 1.30min sound Overpowered lol and thats without counting the DRK ws-melee damage

Spikes realy owns vs hard mobs

Some drks was abled to solo IT mobs without any problems as DRK/SAM (/sam buged for this 2 spells(spikes+drain2 spike recast is 5sec...... +ethreal earring and refeash gear+san refreash+yagudo drink = you can solo ITS nonestop kinda)

Thats a link for the glitch details
http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=149075

and thats a video of the glitch rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWfbR_mFPQ

give it few days and SE gonna fix it =p

[Helpoemer]

Imagine drk PT makin dread spikes order VS hnm

Tiamat hit drk#1 twice 600crit+400 thats 1000 hp absorbed (hate free too)

The recast can reach 1.30 with march+haste+homam
Norml DRKS with full HP gear+drainII can reach 2000HP without any problem

So thats 1000damage from the spikes every 1.30min sound Overpowered lol and thats without counting the DRK ws-melee damage

Spikes realy owns vs hard mobs

Some drks was abled to solo IT mobs without any problems as DRK/SAM (/sam buged for this 2 spells(spikes+drain2 spike recast is 5sec...... +ethreal earring and refeash gear+san refreash+yagudo drink = you can solo ITS nonestop kinda)

Thats a link for the glitch details
http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=149075

and thats a video of the glitch rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWfbR_mFPQ

give it few days and SE gonna fix it =p

wasn't it established that the spikes can get resisted if you don't have enough dark magic skill?
also against stuff like wyrms i'm sure the damage would be gimped too?

edit: that glitch is gonna take up 2 hours maint

[Jeryhn]

Imagine drk PT makin dread spikes order VS hnm

Tiamat hit drk#1 twice 600crit+400 thats 1000 hp absorbed (hate free too)

The recast can reach 1.30 with march+haste+homam
Norml DRKS with full HP gear+drainII can reach 2000HP without any problem

So thats 1000damage from the spikes every 1.30min sound Overpowered lol and thats without counting the DRK ws-melee damage

Spikes realy owns vs hard mobs

Some drks was abled to solo IT mobs without any problems as DRK/SAM (/sam buged for this 2 spells(spikes+drain2 spike recast is 5sec...... +ethreal earring and refeash gear+san refreash+yagudo drink = you can solo ITS nonestop kinda)

Thats a link for the glitch details
http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=149075

and thats a video of the glitch rofl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWfbR_mFPQ

give it few days and SE gonna fix it =p

wasn't it established that the spikes can get resisted if you don't have enough dark magic skill?
also against stuff like wyrms i'm sure the damage would be gimped too?

The Drain effect from the Spikes does count as magic damage, so it will be gimped by shit like a CoP Wyrm's natural resistance to magic. There's the whole Dark skill thing too, but you can cast the spell in Dark skill gear, and swap out once the Spikes are in effect.

[Alathar]

Imagine drk PT makin dread spikes order VS hnm

Tiamat hit drk#1 twice 600crit+400 thats 1000 hp absorbed (hate free too)

This made me think ... (don't think it's what you meant). What will this do about Tiamat's ninja-counter. Would it proc on that? If so, you've got 1000ish mostly hate free dmg if you can make him counter you right. Just use Drain II on an ele or something and try it.

ninja edit: of course, you don't want to really feed her TP, but what if ... ?

[Mifaco]

spikes don't give TP