Sea drop rates after update?

[Jeryhn]

Ix'Aerns used to drop nothing most of the time, but could drop Deed, Vice, or both. They were changed later to always drop a Deed or a Vice.

Ix'MNK can (and oftend does) most certainly drop nothing.

If you use 1 or 2 organs to pop it.

Never had a no-drop Ix'MNK when we used 3 organs to pop it.

[Clynt]

Ix'MNK is 100% Deed OR Vice with 3 organs.

[Elipse]

If anyone is still unclear:

Ix'Drk = Vice or Deed drop OR if it drops nothing, it will reraise until it does drop one or the other. It will always drop something when its finally dead. Never both. Never reraise after drop.

Ix'Drg - Vice or Deed 100% upon first kill. Never both.

Ix'Mnk - 1 or 2 organ pops have a chance to drop vice, deed or nothing. Never both.

3 Organ pops always drop vice or deed. Never both, Never nothing.

[BRP]

If anyone is still unclear:

Ix'Drk = Vice or Deed drop OR if it drops nothing, it will reraise until it does drop one or the other. It will always drop something when its finally dead. Never both. Never reraise after drop.

Ix'Drg - Vice or Deed 100% upon first kill. Never both.

Ix'Mnk - 1 or 2 organ pops have a chance to drop vice, deed or nothing. Never both.

3 Organ pops always drop vice or deed. Never both, Never nothing.

In addition to Jailers now dropping their virtues 100%?

[SiryOp]

If anyone is still unclear:

Ix'Drk = Vice or Deed drop OR if it drops nothing, it will reraise until it does drop one or the other. It will always drop something when its finally dead. Never both. Never reraise after drop.

Ix'Drg - Vice or Deed 100% upon first kill. Never both.

Ix'Mnk - 1 or 2 organ pops have a chance to drop vice, deed or nothing. Never both.

3 Organ pops always drop vice or deed. Never both, Never nothing.

In addition to Jailers now dropping their virtues 100%?

Yes. The jailor % is new, but this was always the case with Ix's. Well, I heard reports that Ix's could drop both back when Sea was brand new but it was changed to one or the other shortly after.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I'm basing your adorableness 100% on avatar/sig, reality doesn't enter into it. Unless you decide to make it matter ifyaknowhatimean

Well, thanks, wish I could take credit for them. Avatar someone else found for me years ago, someone had drawn a WHM her model and BLM my model in a pic together; the sig as I've mentioned was made for me by Catra on Odin, as actually a whole pic, I just cropped it.

*blinks innocently* but i'm so sweet and adorable, i haven't the faintest idea what you're talking about! :3 (i never use that face either...)

Well, I would be very confused and/or angry if I saw somebody else with that avatar/sig.
Babe, if you don't know what I'm talkin I'll teach ya. I have a great smiley for this sentence but it wont be size=0'd so I can't use it. So just imagine me winking at you, that'll do given the circumstances

[Elipse]

If anyone is still unclear:

Ix'Drk = Vice or Deed drop OR if it drops nothing, it will reraise until it does drop one or the other. It will always drop something when its finally dead. Never both. Never reraise after drop.

Ix'Drg - Vice or Deed 100% upon first kill. Never both.

Ix'Mnk - 1 or 2 organ pops have a chance to drop vice, deed or nothing. Never both.

3 Organ pops always drop vice or deed. Never both, Never nothing.

In addition to Jailers now dropping their virtues 100%?

Didn't want to make a statement I couldn't confirm. I'm really hoping the answer is yes. *Shakes the magic 8 ball* "All signs point to yes!"

[vagus]

its a mithra with a giant hammer. [fear]

[Ashira]

its a mithra with a giant hammer. [fear]

rawr

[Ohemgee]

Just killed a broken Prudence.

Was idle from 60%->5%

>_>

[Bagel]

Yeah every once in a while Prudence goes into unaggroed Hpmede mode and then seems to not notice you're doing dmg to him, so he just stands around and takes it.

[Ashira]

Wish I could get the Prudences like that. Instead I tend to get the ones who decide I did too much damage nuking and hit me invisibly for 600+ damage and no change to my HP bar, then hit me once for 350 damage which then takes my entire HP bar, and I die. -.-

[cdgreg]

We did love yesterday and got full drops. Never seen a full drop before, it could also be that they adjusted novio/novia. Since those are some of the highly sought after items, maybe they just adjusted the ones "at the end" so to speak.

We've only done about 7 jols so its not a huge amount by any means. However, our stats with THF3 are 3 full drops, 1 weapon only drop, and 3 "regular drops" (novio + torque, torque, novia)

I was reading this and thinking, sounds exactly like my linkshell.... then realized it was. Hey Cd ^^


And to the guy that talks about Novio being purely Epeen and it doesn't amount to 100 damage, it really depends on the situation.

Thats like saying STR is epeen for Sam. Doesn't really matter if he does 100 damage more on a WS... Its the same thing.

We have 4 novios now, thats 4 blm's pumping that little extra damage into every nuke. Its not huge, but isn't that what we aim for? To get the blm's doing that little extra, to get the sam's pushing that little extra dmg, to get the tanks that little more enmity, to get the mages a little less enmity (novia's) etc etc, and soon enough all that little extra starts to add up to big things.

Not sure how a player can say replacing a slot which was int+2 with MAB+7 is strictly epeen, +60-80 dmg per nuke is decent in my opinion...I must have missed that post as i skimmed the thread.

[Ashira]

He's saying that at that point it's diminishing returns and doesn't do nearly the output one would hope for, not anything that makes or breaks you versus another BLM.

When I get a Novio, it'll probably just replace my Moldavite. Because of how I've distributed my merits, I prefer to keep some other Elemental skill on to keep me on par with those who've maxed out to 8. I never noticed huge issues when I wore my Phantom there before, and I could probably switch back for more damage bonus with INT, but until I can start carrying around 100 things in my bag, I sort of need to pare down.

[cdgreg]

He's saying that at that point it's diminishing returns and doesn't do nearly the output one would hope for, not anything that makes or breaks you versus another BLM.

When I get a Novio, it'll probably just replace my Moldavite. Because of how I've distributed my merits, I prefer to keep some other Elemental skill on to keep me on par with those who've maxed out to 8. I never noticed huge issues when I wore my Phantom there before, and I could probably switch back for more damage bonus with INT, but until I can start carrying around 100 things in my bag, I sort of need to pare down.

I see what youre saying, yeah replacing a moldy with a novio isn't that much of a different, but i replaced my lolabyssal. As you are right the 60-80 dmg (abyssal to novio) doesnt make or break a blm compared to another, odds are the blm who earned the novio probably already has invested more time/gil into merits and gear anyways.

[Toth]

I replaced my Magnetic with it. My other spots are served for mostly INT gear. It's a shame how much a placebo elemental skill gear can be Torque, +1 af hands, and weskit tend to be enough to land spells on all things except Kirin and wyrms. Kirin is just so random and I've tried INT, MAB, and elemental gear set ups but he's one tough cookie to crack consistently.

[Ashira]

I replaced my Magnetic with it. My other spots are served for mostly INT gear. It's a shame how much a placebo elemental skill gear can be Torque, +1 af hands, and weskit tend to be enough to land spells on all things except Kirin and wyrms. Kirin is just so random and I've tried INT, MAB, and elemental gear set ups but he's one tough cookie to crack consistently.

Yeah, well, we do Wyrms a lot (we've kinda had a run of like, 30 of the last 40 Tiamats), so I usually try to keep my 330 Elemental Skill available; and with merits and such, last Faf we got I was able to nuke in full MAB/INT gear with no resist except for one Burst II. So... I guess something's working for me.

Kirin.. yeah.. huh what's Kirin again? :/

EDIT: Ethereal ftw

[Toth]

And yet I wear 350 elemental magic skill and still have resists on Jorm and Kirin Oh, those hidden joys of the game!


edit: by wyrms, I am talking about Jorm specifically.

[Seditedi]

What do you wear for Kirin?
Last Kirin we did I had zero resists at like 340ish elemental skill. Double etudes ftw!

[Toth]

No etudes hehe. I suspect INT is more a factor than elemental skill on him. As for my gear, I imagine the same exact setup as yours (HQ Prism, Snow + Tamas, etc)