Sea drop rates after update?

[Matricide]

this was on asura a couple days ago

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9319/img0407yy7.png

[dendryte]

JoL on 3/11 on Titan dropped Novio only.

[vagus]

3/4 on Torques
2/4 on Enmity Earring
2/4 on Magic Attack

JoL stats for us. I'm glad the drop rates on the pop items have increased, could this be a sign of AV being fixed? Lol. Wishful thinking yet again.

[SamanosukeShiva]

killed JoL last monday, torque drop
no AV pop

going to do another one this sunday

[Ashira]

Regardless of how you place your merits. Your choices come down to 3 elemental skill or 2 int vs 7 MAB. Call it what you want, 7MAB does far more than 2 int or 3 elemental skill.

And for those talking about diminishing results, 3 elemental skill probably hits that on the button.

Except in my nuking gear, I'd be down 6 ele skill versus other BLMs who opted to max Elemental (though I don't have that number in front of me atm, though as I recall, without the earring I was just below a believed tier).

You can have all the MAB you want and your resist rate won't change a bit. At least INT and Elemental skill help there.

[Raineer]

No, it can drop both, or one or the other, or nothing at all.

Hmmm I've never seen both drop on one kill, and I've always seen one or the other drop, with the exception of a single organ ix'mnk pop. Everytime I've popped with 3 organs, either one or the other has dropped.

When I got my cape it was a double-drop. No, I don't have a screenie

lol

[Charitwo]

No, it can drop both, or one or the other, or nothing at all.

Hmmm I've never seen both drop on one kill, and I've always seen one or the other drop, with the exception of a single organ ix'mnk pop. Everytime I've popped with 3 organs, either one or the other has dropped.

When I got my cape it was a double-drop. No, I don't have a screenie

lol

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewto ... 535#510535

[aurik]

They modified the drop behaviour of the ix'aerns ages upon ages ago, Raineer probably got his drop back before it was either/or.

[Quicklet]

You can have all the MAB you want and your resist rate won't change a bit. At least INT and Elemental skill help there.

LOL?

[Toth]

You can have all the MAB you want and your resist rate won't change a bit. At least INT and Elemental skill help there.

LOL?

edit: NVM I see what you are loling about. Still, there are some situational mobs where the wizards gloves+1 (INT +3 and elemental skill +15) are more perferable over Zenith Mitts.

[Lordender]

You can have all the MAB you want and your resist rate won't change a bit. At least INT and Elemental skill help there.

i agree wtf @ that >.> there is not much that resists me enough on blm in the end game to say no to more MAB.

[Suiram]

Figured this didn't merit its own thread but, regarding,

The strength of certain monsters in the Grand Palace of Hu'Xzoi and the Garden of Ru'Hmet has been adjusted.

We killed Temperance earlier, first time since the update. Now instead of charging up and doing three consecutive Optic Indurations, he only does two. Also I believe he only 2Hed twice in the fight instead of the usual three, but I was semi-afk for part of it doing drops so I won't guarantee that.

[Ashira]

You can have all the MAB you want and your resist rate won't change a bit. At least INT and Elemental skill help there.

i agree wtf @ that >.> there is not much that resists me enough on blm in the end game to say no to more MAB.

Mm, I guess with our fights mostly being things like Tiamat and Cerberus, some Baha2 thrown in, and my BLM being utilized in low man Salvage fights and such, I worry more about resists than MAB. /shrug. Ask any of my fellow BLMs in my LS, too, I'm a psycho about Burn staying on mobs it'll land on.

[Crosis]

Killed Ix'drg twice over the past couple days, nothing hugely different about him except Virelai from the Wynavs now go through shadows as if it were a ga spell. Least I'm pretty sure this is new, if not I fail.

Deed both times.

[Quicklet]

Mm, I guess with our fights mostly being things like Tiamat and Cerberus, some Baha2 thrown in, and my BLM being utilized in low man Salvage fights and such, I worry more about resists than MAB. /shrug. Ask any of my fellow BLMs in my LS, too, I'm a psycho about Burn staying on mobs it'll land on.

Burn isn't really going to do anything for resists though...

[Toth]

A mob's INT has a direct effect on damage it takes from spell but I am tend to agree that it has some effect on resists rates, albiet small. An example is Kirin, who can still resists spells continuously even with 350+ in elemental skill gear, but from what people have said here and other forums, if you have more INT (from gear and etudes), you see more consistent nukes.
Has anyone ever created a mob's magic defense equation (ie spell damage x mMDB x elemental skill factor x (maybe) INT factor)?

[Ashira]

Mm, I guess with our fights mostly being things like Tiamat and Cerberus, some Baha2 thrown in, and my BLM being utilized in low man Salvage fights and such, I worry more about resists than MAB. /shrug. Ask any of my fellow BLMs in my LS, too, I'm a psycho about Burn staying on mobs it'll land on.

Burn isn't really going to do anything for resists though...

Um... maybe we've read different ideas on BLM then, because there is some school of thought about your INT vs mob INT having some impact on resist and damage. /shrug

[nekoshoonen]

<3

the old arguments are still the best!!

[Dank]

I can't believe some people have 75 BLM and still don't know about how INT helps you be unresisted on super high level mobs. I thought that was common knowledge by now. If a mob has twice your INT, Elemental skill doesn't mean shit. It's why I ask for Etude on Kirin always, and I'm not resisted near as much as without.

Going all-out Elemental magic gear won't do much if you are sacrificing a butt-load of INT. That's why AF1+1 mitts are godly IMO.

Anyway, on topic: This change is wonderful, I do the schedule for my LS and I'm gonna start putting sea back on our agenda, before the change people complained it was a waste of time.

[Ashira]

<3

the old arguments are still the best!!

/shrug

I dunno, works for me. Placebo or no, with other random little game mechanics it makes sense in my head, and I haven't really read anything that said anything very differently. I tend to avoid KI job-specific forums in general, so more of my ideas come from my own comparisons and chatting with findings with other LSmates. I can fight Fafnir on BLM and not get one single resist in my nuke setup, not elemental skill setup - pull hate once or twice if I need to but survive getting hit; and I can watch another BLM in another shell who is all out damage, including a Novio he bought from RMT and HQ everything and Sorc Ring and whatnot and unless he's MBing he gets resists 8 times out of 10; and when he does MB he gets hate and dies at least once a Fafnir fight. Which is more practical?