Signet Bonus limitation.

[Zilong]

Was farming some grah chips in sea yesterday with a friend, and midway before we finished up, his signet wore.

Turns out that the exp he get without signet and the exp I got with signet is the same, meaning that Lumorian area isn't affected by by the exp bonus...or the particular mobtype grah are one of those mobtype where the bonus doesn't work

The TP preservation and the insane HMP+ still works just fine though, and I think the EM or lower defense/evasion bonus does, I was blinktanking so I can't see the damage differences from defense, but it seem I dodged the DC-EM grah/euvhi waaaay more often than the T mobs.

So I'm just wondering if anyone else find anything peculiar about the new signet.

PS: Ghrah M Chip farming still sucks, but those luminion chips makes me really wish I had MNK levelled ; ;

[DreizehnOfSiren]

The exp bonus only works on EM or less mobs.. you sure it wasn't just the T mobs you saw?

Edit: Also the other bonuses like eva and def don't work on T or higher mobs.

[Zilong]

The exp bonus only works on EM or less mobs.. you sure it wasn't just the T mobs you saw?

Edit: Also the other bonuses like eva and def don't work on T or higher mobs.

Really? I thought that only apply on the Evasion + Defense bonus

Also, I did fought some EM, and it gives me only like 65 exp with duo, so I thought I crossed that as grah being those mob that give extra exp/kill like phuabos or wyvern.

According to the flowchart, I should be getting 75 exp, is it possible that there are outside factor controlling the signet bonus potency? Like the placement of nation on the Conquest or the control of the region

[Ohemgee]

sea isnt subject to conquest

[Zilong]

sea isnt subject to conquest

Signet items works there

And I know at least the hHP bonus works there.

[Vodevil]

The exp bonus only works on EM or less mobs.. you sure it wasn't just the T mobs you saw?

The EM or less only applies to the Defense/Evasion Bonus.

- Increased defense and evasion against attacks from your auto-attack target
If an auto-attack target is an “even match” or weaker, players will gain a bonus to their defense and evasion against the monster.
This bonus only applies to attacks from an opponent who you are auto-attacking with a drawn weapon. No bonus will be obtained when attacking in a manner other than auto-attack, or when being attacked by monsters that unexpectedly join the fray.

[Khamsin]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update...2bbd1/08en.jpg

Does this mean that if the mob were worth, say, 200 xp, then a solo person would earn 200xp, a duo would earn 150xp, 4 people earn 90xp, and a full PT gets 70xp?

[Wizerd]

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update...2bbd1/08en.jpg

Does this mean that if the mob were worth, say, 200 xp, then a solo person would earn 200xp, a duo would earn 150xp, 4 people earn 90xp, and a full PT gets 70xp?

Yes. Unless it's a wyvern, hippogryph, etc, and apparently ghrah.

[Xanthe]

Except that if a mob was worth 200 exp chances are it's higher than EM, so the bonus won't apply.

[Sheeny]

Except that if a mob was worth 200 exp chances are it's higher than EM, so the bonus won't apply.

Except that you have no idea what you're saying. Exp bonus is not dependant on level comparison. You're thinking of the auto-attack def/eva bonus as stated by SE and reiterated above.

[Wizerd]

Except that if a mob was worth 200 exp chances are it's higher than EM, so the bonus won't apply.

Learn to read.

Someone even pointed it out in this thread. My god people.

[fantasticdan]

Does this mean that if the mob were worth, say, 200 xp, then a solo person would earn 200xp, a duo would earn 150xp, 4 people earn 90xp, and a full PT gets 70xp?

An EM or less mob cannot grant 200xp, except maybe with that new ring.

[Wizerd]

Does this mean that if the mob were worth, say, 200 xp, then a solo person would earn 200xp, a duo would earn 150xp, 4 people earn 90xp, and a full PT gets 70xp?

An EM or less mob cannot grant 200xp, except maybe with that new ring.

...you posted 4 minutes after the last 2 posts.

edit: Just to quote again:

Except that if a mob was worth 200 exp chances are it's higher than EM, so the bonus won't apply.

Except that you have no idea what you're saying. Exp bonus is not dependant on level comparison. You're thinking of the auto-attack def/eva bonus as stated by SE and reiterated above.

[TsingTao]

It's not the new signet per se. Sea is an odd place, a grey area like the Promyvions. It counts as 'Always outside regional control' for CP items since no one can ever control the area. It's still technically not a region subject to Conquest though.

Area not subject to Conquest: 'active' bonus like exp bonus for duos doesn't work.
Area still considered valid for regional control considerations as it is not under anyone's control ever: 'passive' perk like hHP still works.

Go kill something else and make sure it's not just Ghrahs. I expect you'll get normal experience points.

[Zilong]

It's not the new signet per se. Sea is an odd place, a grey area like the Promyvions. It counts as 'Always outside regional control' for CP items since no one can ever control the area. It's still technically not a region subject to Conquest though.

Area not subject to Conquest: 'active' bonus like exp bonus for duos doesn't work.
Area still considered valid for regional control considerations as it is not under anyone's control ever: 'passive' perk like hHP still works.

Go kill something else and make sure it's not just Ghrahs. I expect you'll get normal experience points.

I think we killed some zdei and euvhi, but I'm guessing sea has limited effect of signet bonus.

Kinda sad, I thought I can make ghrah/euvhi organ farming less shitty with this update now that they have exp bonus on signet, but doesn't seem like it applies.

[Xanthe]

Exp bonus is not dependant on level comparison. You're thinking of the auto-attack def/eva bonus as stated by SE and reiterated above.

I though I had read in the patch notes that the exp bonus was also EM or less, but checking them again you're right. My mistake.

[Nagamaki]

Not losing tp and getting to full hp many times faster when farming ghrahs on mnk nin or thf qualifies as "less shitty" to me. A bit of extra xp/lp would never hurt, but it would have been icing on the cake, not the cake itself.

Just go to a sanction area and recover hp with resting after getting used to the giant hhp ticks with Signet, its damn painful..

[dietvanillapepsi]

I never thought of checking before but does anyone know if you get Conquest Points for killing stuff in Sea? If you do then Signet definitely applies in that region.

[Jeryhn]

I never thought of checking before but does anyone know if you get Conquest Points for killing stuff in Sea? If you do then Signet definitely applies in that region.

No, the area isn't subject to Conquest.

[Tricen]

So let me get this straight... If you walk up to a mob or pull a mob with signet no eva/def bonus. But if you have a mob at like 5% and pull another mob (All being EM<) and you kill one mob and auto attack the next, your eva/defis increased?