Server Issues?

[Snowknight26]

They updated the servers on the 9th or something (Pallas update) that made it so that only one connection can be established at any moment (PS2 limitations) so everyone is d/cing.

[Elesirdur]

Still having same bullshit d/c issue in the same zones. I love how SE is STILL claiming its not their fault. Hilarious.

Wouldn't everybody be having these issues if it were SE's fault? That's like saying half the player base getting R0 spikes every 60 seconds is SE's fault, when the other half of the player base has no issues (which has happened before).

Well, it may still somehow be their fault, but it seems odd that something that is wrong with SE's servers would only affect select people.

It's just weird that Player A. in NY is having the same problem as Player B. in AZ.

It's more weird that Player A is having a problem while his next door neighbor, Player B, with the same internet service is not.

Over in the compiled data thread I see a few people using Shaw service that are experienceing R0 in a lot of the same areas. Perhaps we can find a common link there? Same with people using that Roadrunner service (I don't know the telecom co., but they're a big US one)

[Osede]

I've been having problems since friday and tried alot of different things but nothing seemed to work. Yesterday I unplugged my modem for awhile then turned it back on with ps2 directly plugged into it and I finally logged in. However both my jeuno mules immediately d/c'd upon log in but my main character which was in whitegate was fine, no R0 zones, no problems. So a little while ago I tried to hook everything back up thru my router and I got error 3113 at acquiring player data again like before. So it looks like I'll have to deal with this for now but it stinks I can't use my pc while playing. I also noticed there was a small update with 5 files? Anyone know what they were? Wish me luck at logging back in

the update is for aura steals.

and same 3113 problem here. Has been enable uPnP, open ports, hard reset routers etc, things still not solved unless i either play at school or hook it directly to modem

[Julian]

Still having same bullshit d/c issue in the same zones. I love how SE is STILL claiming its not their fault. Hilarious.

Wouldn't everybody be having these issues if it were SE's fault? That's like saying half the player base getting R0 spikes every 60 seconds is SE's fault, when the other half of the player base has no issues (which has happened before).

Well, it may still somehow be their fault, but it seems odd that something that is wrong with SE's servers would only affect select people.

How can you be so sure not everyone is having this problem?

Has everyone been to every zone since the update?

I didn't have any problems with this until I zoned into a zone most people probably would never visit, Monarch Linn, and if it wasn't for that encounter I would have claimed to "not have any problems."

[Metah]

Still having same bullshit d/c issue in the same zones. I love how SE is STILL claiming its not their fault. Hilarious.

Wouldn't everybody be having these issues if it were SE's fault? That's like saying half the player base getting R0 spikes every 60 seconds is SE's fault, when the other half of the player base has no issues (which has happened before).

Well, it may still somehow be their fault, but it seems odd that something that is wrong with SE's servers would only affect select people.

It's just weird that Player A. in NY is having the same problem as Player B. in AZ.

It's more weird that Player A is having a problem while his next door neighbor, Player B, with the same internet service is not.

Over in the compiled data thread I see a few people using Shaw service that are experienceing R0 in a lot of the same areas. Perhaps we can find a common link there? Same with people using that Roadrunner service (I don't know the telecom co., but they're a big US one)

I've noticed that people who get error 3113 often seem to be using TELUS. I know I am.

[Elesirdur]

I've been reading over the stickied thread regarding R0 zones and I notice something different. There are three people, including myself, who have posted in that zone that say they are using Shaw Cable in BC. Two of us have some of the same zones going R0, and the other has totally different zones. ie. I and the other R0 in Ru'Lude and Port Jeuno, where as person #3 R0s in Lower Jeuno. I assume that we've all tried all four of the Jeuno zones to see what works and what doesn't.

Therefore, as we're all using the same ISP and 99% sure we're all connected to the same backbone, BUT experiencing R0 problems in dissimilar zones it leads me to believe that it's not completely related to one's ISP.

[theo]

Wouldn't everybody be having these issues if it were SE's fault? That's like saying half the player base getting R0 spikes every 60 seconds is SE's fault, when the other half of the player base has no issues (which has happened before).

Well, it may still somehow be their fault, but it seems odd that something that is wrong with SE's servers would only affect select people.

Its happened before. An update.. a bit over a year ago I guess, caused people using mobility radeons with 64mb(may have been 128 too) and lower to crash right after they logged in. I was one of them, and the solution was to turn the graphics all the way down and on the lowest res, looked worse than atari.

They did fix it, but I think it took almost a month.

Yes, this affected me a long time ago, and it was enough to make me quit the game for a couple months. Finally one day I decided to randomly see if FFXI would work, and voila, it was working fine again.

I really, really hope that kind of time frame doesn't repeat itself this time around.

[dritero]

I am using Shaw Cable in Nanaimo BC, and I can access all areas of jeuno, the dead zones I've noticed to date are rolanberry fields, dynamis-beaucedine, and the sanctuary of zitah. I'm sure there are more.

[Zalius]

They updated the servers on the 9th or something (Pallas update) that made it so that only one connection can be established at any moment (PS2 limitations) so everyone is d/cing.

in 2005 i am laughing
in 2007 i am angry

[Elesirdur]

I am using Shaw Cable in Nanaimo BC, and I can access all areas of jeuno, the dead zones I've noticed to date are rolanberry fields, dynamis-beaucedine, and the sanctuary of zitah. I'm sure there are more.

Of those zones, I know that I can access Rolanberry - I was bazaaring there forever today. HOWEVER, I couldn't perform a search in that area even though I had a proper connection.

[Izzy]

i didnt mean to start a MAC Address war. i just wanna know wtf is going on. Why does changing my MAC Address allow me to get to some zones i couldnt before. Like...i guess i'm just confused on what exactly is broke "besides the packet handling thing". How does my IP changing, change the way the client handles incoming packets?

[Taj]

i didnt mean to start a MAC Address war. i just wanna know wtf is going on. Why does changing my MAC Address allow me to get to some zones i couldnt before. Like...i guess i'm just confused on what exactly is broke "besides the packet handling thing". How does my IP changing, change the way the client handles incoming packets?

Why did you end every comment on that youtube link with an exclamation point?

[Deimos]

The funny part is people are convinced they can change their own IP address and MAC address, even if the normal person could change those things, it wouldnt fix anything.

I know it makes no logical sense, but honestly, changing your IP address really does change the problem. For the last 3 days now I've been travelling around by cycling through a few IP addresses that I've found that belong to my ISP (also Shaw, like many others apparently), and I've learned the dead zones for each of them.

For instance, if I use xxx.xxx.xxx.195 (which is the IP I will be assigned every time if I turn the settings to automatic), Port Windurst is dead. However, if I change my TCP/IP settings and tell it to assign me xxx.xxx.xxx.206 (which is usually free), Port Windurst will work fine, but, for example, Yuhtunga Jungle is dead. If I want to do something in Yuhtunga, I can switch back to either .195 or go to my usual third option, .201. Both of those will work in Yuhtunga, however, if I'm going fishing, I shouldn't use .195 because it will be dead in Sea Serpent Grotto.

Yes, it's weird as hell, but it's really how it is. I've found other IP addresses that I can't even consider an option, because they cause that 3113 protocol error that other people are reporting.

Now, without actually knowing anything about how FFXI's servers are set up, here's my theory on what's going wrong:

SE says that their technicians have checked the servers multiple times, and they're fine. That's because they probably are. There's nothing wrong with the servers. This is pretty obvious because it IS possible to get into these zones, just not from certain IP addresses.

So then, imagine for the sake of argument that there's say... 3 servers that can handle Sea Serpent Grotto for Sylph. Some programmer at SE decides that a clever way to do load balancing would be a chunk of code like this that gets run when you zone in to any zone:

ip_address_sum = 0;
ip_address_array = client_ip_address.split('.');

for (i = 0; i < 4; i++)
ip_address_sum += ip_address_array[i];

assign_client_to_server(zone, ip_address_sum % 3);

Now, if somehow they messed up that assign_client_to_server function so that assigning it to the #0 server always fails, but assigning to #1 and #2 work, we have a situation like what seems to be happening. MOST people can connect to the zone just fine, but for some reason the same IP address always fails when zoning in.

Note that I have absolutely no clue if they're actually doing this, but I'm assuming something like this is going on, because it explains the problem perfectly.

[Murataki]

i didnt mean to start a MAC Address war. i just wanna know wtf is going on. Why does changing my MAC Address allow me to get to some zones i couldnt before. Like...i guess i'm just confused on what exactly is broke "besides the packet handling thing". How does my IP changing, change the way the client handles incoming packets?

Why did you end every comment on that youtube link with an exclamation point?

!!!!! = new cruise control 2 cool

[Taj]

So a linkshell mate on Leviathan was complaining about how Nyzul Isle is a dead zone for him on his laptop, but not his desktop. I asked him if his laptop and his desktop share the same broadband connection, and they do.

Mmm, I smell blatant lies on Square-Enix's part.

[Tekki]

going to test that theory right now
edit; hmm geee my other stuff cant download the update. I guess the update server is down

[Khamsin]

So a linkshell mate on Leviathan was complaining about how Nyzul Isle is a dead zone for him on his laptop, but not his desktop. I asked him if his laptop and his desktop share the same broadband connection, and they do.

Mmm, I smell blatant lies on Square-Enix's part.

Well, SE did say its not a fault of their servers or on their side of the connection, and they're probably right. They never denied it was a problem with the client software or something going wrong at the client side.

[Izzy]

i didnt mean to start a MAC Address war. i just wanna know wtf is going on. Why does changing my MAC Address allow me to get to some zones i couldnt before. Like...i guess i'm just confused on what exactly is broke "besides the packet handling thing". How does my IP changing, change the way the client handles incoming packets?

Why did you end every comment on that youtube link with an exclamation point?

you know, i thought about that after i posted the replies. At the time, I think i was just obsessed with !!!!!

[Talint]

I would just like to add I'm sitting dead in West Altep because of this fucking ridiculous problem, and can't really play the game until it's fixed.

Northeast US, Comcast is my ISP. Other dead zones are Metalworks and Upper Jeuno. Releasing/renewing IP doesn't work.

-edit- Homepointing worked, much to my surprise! Stuff clearly is getting sent and being recieved.

[Slott]

So a linkshell mate on Leviathan was complaining about how Nyzul Isle is a dead zone for him on his laptop, but not his desktop. I asked him if his laptop and his desktop share the same broadband connection, and they do.

Mmm, I smell blatant lies on Square-Enix's part.

nyzul was a dead zone for me with my router in. Connected straight from modem to my comp and i could enter nyzul. Fucked up huh :\