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  1. #421
    Sea Torques
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2


    somone get that man a pearlsack

  2. #422
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormcrown
    This guy got kicked from Vanguard after playing crappy, joining another HNMLS and not showing up for LS events because he was meriting. I present for you another BurningStars player: (pic taken by one of our LS officers showing him in another "HNMLS")

    http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6...9174030yo2.png

    Yes, full time gear.
    is that seriously the relic cap?

  3. #423
    Ive sucked 27 dicks, in a row.
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  4. #424
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    I hate it when I see shotty whms running around like that with bits of af2. Makes me want to punch babies.

  5. #425
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Cleric's Cap is the worst piece of the entire set; I don't mind gimps obtaining it. What I do mind is people actually wearing the stupid thing.

  6. #426
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Obev
    Cleric's Cap is the worst piece of the entire set; I don't mind gimps obtaining it. What I do mind is people actually wearing the stupid thing.
    It's like this Aegis PLD on Cerberus who runs around with Valor Coronet on. Can't remember his name right now for the life of me - he's not in one of the major shells.

  7. #427
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    He runs around, or he tanks?

  8. #428
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin
    He runs around, or he tanks?
    I dunno, never seen him actually do anything. Either way, ew. He's in CaptainCaveman. >_>

  9. #429
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    That would be Zizka, and they kill JoL so <_<

    He has baha mask and the whole shebang.

  10. #430
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Full AF2 and +1 gloves, and a life belt / no destroyers
    http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...819_170741.png

  11. #431
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Obev
    Cleric's Cap is the worst piece of the entire set; I don't mind gimps obtaining it. What I do mind is people actually wearing the stupid thing.
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/images/...%27s_Mitts.jpg

  12. #432
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Skirkle
    Quote Originally Posted by Obev
    Cleric's Cap is the worst piece of the entire set; I don't mind gimps obtaining it. What I do mind is people actually wearing the stupid thing.
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/images/...%27s_Mitts.jpg
    Mitts are definitely not bad at all. I'm close to 280 Enfeebling with mediocre gear on WHM. Very handy for picking up slack, or helping out when RDMs have their hands full.
    http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...ryu070622c.jpg
    I also use them with Banish for Def. Down on undead in Einherjar.

  13. #433
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    I'm not saying that Cleric's Mitts are bad (I have them too and I really do like the +enfeebling), I'm just saying that in terms of Cleric's gear, Cap isn't really that bad. I'd say it's third or fourth for all-around WHM: Marduk, Turban, and Zenith all trump it in their own respective ways.

    Mitts are still worse than the cap though, in my opinion the cap's probably the best piece of Cleric's aside from Briault.

  14. #434
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Pantaloons are the best i'd say

  15. #435
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Pantaloons, Duckbills, Briault, Mitts, Cap.

    In order of utility, the Cap is at the bottom of the scale for me.

  16. #436
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    assuming a walmart whm (nothing like af1+1 body, nashira, etc.) a whm can get
    base:225
    healer's briault:10
    enfeebling torque:7
    elite beret:4
    cleric's mitts:15
    =261 enfeebling magic w/o merits (much more if they have rdm/blm and merited enf magic.)
    when you consider that the enf magic of a crappily geared blm is 230 base, + af body for 240, you're significantly outpacing the crappier blm out there. with a more finely tuned gearset, including nashira pants, merits, enfeebling earring, and other less pedestrian items to find lying around on the cheap, a whm's enfeebling magic could likely get on par with a poorly geared rdm, significantly increasing the useful skillset of a whm. granted, it's not sleepga2, but if you need something to stick (a silence on a scorp b/c your rdm are sleeping on the job maybe? ^^), there's a decent enough chance of getting it through to not ignore the value of it. even still, the situations where this would be useful are limited, thus ranking them in the lower echelon of whm af2, but they are not without their purpose.

  17. #437
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    when you consider that the enf magic of a crappily geared blm is 230 base, + af body for 240...
    If you're not carrying at least the Igqira headpiece and legs, I don't consider you a BLM at all; you've just got another mage job at 75.

  18. #438
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Feielle
    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    when you consider that the enf magic of a crappily geared blm is 230 base, + af body for 240...
    If you're not carrying at least the Igqira headpiece and legs, I don't consider you a BLM at all; you've just got another mage job at 75.
    while i take pride in my job and doing at least moderately well at it (where i can use MC bracelets, i have 10+12+7+10+12 (last from merits. need to finish those off soon.)) enf skill, letting me get a very decent chunk of enfeebling skill, i've seen blm who don't even tote around the af1 body. considering, i hardly think it that much of a stretch to believe that a whm could, with some planning, exceed a bad blm on enfeebling skill. meanwhile, i'll be confident i won't get resisted on sleepga and have half a dozen pissed off, resisted dynamis mobs running straight for my fragile, taru body. blm who think all they do is nuke make me sad... and yet they're becoming the standard anymore. *sob*

  19. #439
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Feielle
    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    when you consider that the enf magic of a crappily geared blm is 230 base, + af body for 240...
    If you're not carrying at least the Igqira headpiece and legs, I don't consider you a BLM at all; you've just got another mage job at 75.
    do nashira legs work!? +5skill +3m.acc!

  20. #440
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    Re: Worst equipped mage/melee PART 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    assuming a walmart whm (nothing like af1+1 body, nashira, etc.) a whm can get
    base:225
    healer's briault:10
    enfeebling torque:7
    elite beret:4
    cleric's mitts:15
    =261 enfeebling magic w/o merits (much more if they have rdm/blm and merited enf magic.)
    when you consider that the enf magic of a crappily geared blm is 230 base, + af body for 240, you're significantly outpacing the crappier blm out there. with a more finely tuned gearset, including nashira pants, merits, enfeebling earring, and other less pedestrian items to find lying around on the cheap, a whm's enfeebling magic could likely get on par with a poorly geared rdm, significantly increasing the useful skillset of a whm. granted, it's not sleepga2, but if you need something to stick (a silence on a scorp b/c your rdm are sleeping on the job maybe? ^^), there's a decent enough chance of getting it through to not ignore the value of it. even still, the situations where this would be useful are limited, thus ranking them in the lower echelon of whm af2, but they are not without their purpose.
    Have fun keeping all of that gear around (not to mention the other 4 AF1 pieces you'd have to carry because you can't store) for a 50% sleep rate (ES anybody) and a silence on dynamis pets. If you need to use an enfeebling set more often than that your red mages need to reevaluate how they play. (for the record I carry auster's/enfeebling torque on WHM specifically for this reason <_<)

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