Camps

[Nystul]

No, I just think people who have to sit back and whine about how others play too much should stfu and get off our case. Do I play too much? yes.. hell yes.. do I still manage to run my company and date? Yah.. it works.. for now.

yeahhhh ok I think you should go back up there and read what I wrote again. but nice try though!

[Sady]

There is definitely a fine line between being dedicated and being totally obssessed. MMOs act to blur that line...

In reality it's all a matter of perception. One might think they are hardcore for camping every single Tiamat spawn while another would see that as pathetic. Personally, I blame poor game design of world spawn HNMs. In my opinion the difficulty should reside in the encounter and not the spawn/claim.

[Ardrial]

can you cook?

I will learn.

[Nystul]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...six/tiamat.jpg

is this an inside joke because I don't understand it at all.

[Khalil]

There is definitely a fine line between being dedicated and being totally obssessed. MMOs act to blur that line...

In reality it's all a matter of perception. One might think they are hardcore for camping every single Tiamat spawn while another would see that as pathetic. Personally, I blame poor game design of world spawn HNMs. In my opinion the difficulty should reside in the encounter and not the spawn/claim.

...Wow. Just wow...

Coming from a guy who's HNMLS barely does shit and still has the balls to call out on our LS for camping Tiamat when they can't. Nice Sady.

[Talisien]

Ok seriously that "just because we play at the next level, don't hate" line is perhaps the douchiest (thats likely not a word but here's me trying to start a trend) thing I've heard in ages.

I'm not going to make fun of anyone for playing the game a lot. I do it.

However, that being said...I WILL make fun of someone for playing the game a lot, and then thinking because they do that qualifies them to be in some kind of hardcore gangsta game badass club. If you actually think that way holy fuck for your own good, quit the game. Now. Get out and try to reform some kind of connection with reality because you have entirely lost touch.

Note the difference now: This is not me calling you a loser for playing too much and having fancy items. This is me calling you a loser because you think playing too much and having fancy items makes you a badass. It doesn't. It makes you more of a dork than the rest of us dorks playing this dorky fucking game.

bad·ass Slang: Vulgar.
–adjective Also, badassed.
1. (of a person) difficult to deal with; mean-tempered; touchy.
2. distinctively tough or powerful; so exceptional as to be intimidating.
–noun

Most ultra hardcore MMO players fall under both definitions of badass. It's pretty obvious that someone able to sacrifice their real-life to camp the highest end items/most contested claims will be in possession of the highest end/most contested items. If itemization is decent (which in FFXI it is) then those items will be, by definition, the most powerful items. By having more of them than you, he will be, again by definition, more badass than you.

Now that said, I think that most ultra-hardcore MMO players that come to these boards come in order to stroke their e-peen in front of the only other players on the planet that could understand why they are so proud of themselves. A normal person wouldn't know Tiamat from Tinkerbell after all. However in this case, I don't feel psnsonixx fell on that cliche enough to be called out on it.

Considering that at end game, the difference between the ultra-hardcore (the call tree people, the wake up at 5am on a Tuesday types) and the hardcore (the type that will sit through a 6 hour window in the evening of their own timezone) is razorthin. Then again, so is the difference between Hauby and Hauby+1, we're talking 1% differences here. Yet people pay 500,000 for a Hauby, and 2,000,000 for a Hauby+1, a difference of 300%, for a 1% difference.*

How can you argue that the economy, which is an accepted fact of life in FFXI, is any different from the difference between the ultra-hardcore and hardcore? This guy, through effort and coordination with other highly dedicated players, gets more than you, or other hardcore players. No reason to call him a douche when he's simply stating that truth for everyone to see.

My 2c.

-lurker #908234

*: #'s approximated

[Nystul]

Are you fucking kidding me?

[Sady]

There is definitely a fine line between being dedicated and being totally obssessed. MMOs act to blur that line...

In reality it's all a matter of perception. One might think they are hardcore for camping every single Tiamat spawn while another would see that as pathetic. Personally, I blame poor game design of world spawn HNMs. In my opinion the difficulty should reside in the encounter and not the spawn/claim.

...Wow. Just wow...

Coming from a guy who's HNMLS barely does shit and still has the balls to call out on our LS for camping Tiamat when they can't. Nice Sady.

Well, actually I was just using Tiamat as an example because of the pics posted above, I could have just as well used Fafnir or Cerberus or whatever. I was not reffering to any particular LS on Kujata or anywhere. Believe me, if I wanted to talk shit about TBC I would have said it straight up. But the fact that you got so butt hurt about it just proves my point. You think you're a bad ass, I think your a fucking moron.

[Ryko]

Ok seriously that "just because we play at the next level, don't hate" line is perhaps the douchiest (thats likely not a word but here's me trying to start a trend) thing I've heard in ages.

I'm not going to make fun of anyone for playing the game a lot. I do it.

However, that being said...I WILL make fun of someone for playing the game a lot, and then thinking because they do that qualifies them to be in some kind of hardcore gangsta game badass club. If you actually think that way holy fuck for your own good, quit the game. Now. Get out and try to reform some kind of connection with reality because you have entirely lost touch.

Note the difference now: This is not me calling you a loser for playing too much and having fancy items. This is me calling you a loser because you think playing too much and having fancy items makes you a badass. It doesn't. It makes you more of a dork than the rest of us dorks playing this dorky fucking game.

bad·ass Slang: Vulgar.
–adjective Also, badassed.
1. (of a person) difficult to deal with; mean-tempered; touchy.
2. distinctively tough or powerful; so exceptional as to be intimidating.
–noun

Most ultra hardcore MMO players fall under both definitions of badass. It's pretty obvious that someone able to sacrifice their real-life to camp the highest end items/most contested claims will be in possession of the highest end/most contested items. If itemization is decent (which in FFXI it is) then those items will be, by definition, the most powerful items. By having more of them than you, he will be, again by definition, more badass than you.

Now that said, I think that most ultra-hardcore MMO players that come to these boards come in order to stroke their e-peen in front of the only other players on the planet that could understand why they are so proud of themselves. A normal person wouldn't know Tiamat from Tinkerbell after all. However in this case, I don't feel psnsonixx fell on that cliche enough to be called out on it.

Considering that at end game, the difference between the ultra-hardcore (the call tree people, the wake up at 5am on a Tuesday types) and the hardcore (the type that will sit through a 6 hour window in the evening of their own timezone) is razorthin. Then again, so is the difference between Hauby and Hauby+1, we're talking 1% differences here. Yet people pay 500,000 for a Hauby, and 2,000,000 for a Hauby+1, a difference of 300%, for a 1% difference.*

How can you argue that the economy, which is an accepted fact of life in FFXI, is any different from the difference between the ultra-hardcore and hardcore? This guy, through effort and coordination with other highly dedicated players, gets more than you, or other hardcore players. No reason to call him a douche when he's simply stating that truth for everyone to see.

My 2c.

-lurker #908234

*: #'s approximated

Y'know "youre just jealous" would have taken a lot less effort and time.

[aurik]

jalius

[Ryko]

orite, my mistake. "ur jast jalius"

[Talisien]

Y'know "youre just jealous" would have taken a lot less effort and time.

I'm at work, killing time is like a mini game you can't lose.

[Nystul]

I'm still a little awed that someone quoted the fucking definition of "badass" to me.

[Sesar]

It's just a picture of some bricks and doorknobs camping Tiamat.

[Epical]

is this an inside joke because I don't understand it at all.

I think it might have to do with "thick as a brick" and "dumb as a doorknob". Not sure... I could be wrong (and probably am).

[Khalil]

Sady, please don't make me bring out the shit you've said about TBC. You keep bashing us for camping HNMs...

[Mekaia]

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e4...six/tiamat.jpg

is this an inside joke because I don't understand it at all.

I think he is calling them all mindless objects for sitting there camping a 2-7 (Not to sure, I haven't camped him) day mob. Either way it is funny lol.

Or it could be what he said himself, I for one would rather think of it as the option I stated above .


First BG Post \o/

[Isildur]

There is definitely a fine line between being dedicated and being totally obssessed. MMOs act to blur that line...

In reality it's all a matter of perception. One might think they are hardcore for camping every single Tiamat spawn while another would see that as pathetic. Personally, I blame poor game design of world spawn HNMs. In my opinion the difficulty should reside in the encounter and not the spawn/claim.

...Wow. Just wow...

Coming from a guy who's HNMLS barely does shit and still has the balls to call out on our LS for camping Tiamat when they can't. Nice Sady.

I'm going to back Sady up on this....shut the fuck up and stop thinking whenever someone on Kujata posts something on tiamat and/or drama, its always about you.

Good day.

[Khalil]

I'm going to back Sady up on this....shut the fuck up and stop thinking whenever someone on Kujata posts something on tiamat and/or drama, its always about you.

Good day.

May I direct your fgt ass to the 'DORP' thread where he clearly says TBC camps it all day...?

Good day, kind sir.

[talentwo]

Im not on that server but i agree with the whole encounter thiing. Be cool to have a rare encountar, like have tiamat flying arround and can land anywhere in several zones.