[NEW]Speed Belt/O. Kote/CC/Striders/Serket Ring

[Rocl]

was a general question, I haven't seen any concrete info about it.

Check your PMs.

Secrets are no fun.
I'm guessing you asked him to stop using the sig!

[Titanss]

Umm we did 8 and got 2 rings. I assumed this was for everyone or because my party was jp?

[Alaric]

I watched my friend manaburn 20+ of these for his ls the other night. One claw and no rings out of the whole lot. I'd say ODS still sucks.

[Vedder]

Got Ring on back-to-back ODS runs last night. Each time it was the only good drop on the run.

[Ashira]

11 orbs last night on Early Bird catches the Wyrm (not so bad, usually 10 mins max per run); no Juggy or Belt whatsoever. And only one Beard, which made me feel really bad for some randoms who had shown up when they saw people doing the runs hoping to lot on that.

Our drops in general just really sucked on it. Two of us got the exact same drops right in a row, with the biggest drops being a Bayard's Sword and a Shuriken. First run only had an Unsho in it; one person got three hi-reraisers (which is... really weird) and the polearm.

We'd did some NIN/BRD testing on this some months back and found it laughingly easy considering how hard everyone always said it was; was kind of funny to go in last night to find out the AI had changed. No one was really expecting the full alliance draw-in, hehe. :D

[Kyreth]

Actually the KS30 that drops the serket ring now is a good money maker.

Unless the droprate on serket ring is amazing, no, it isn't. Ring and Claw share a slot with H.Q. Scorpion Shell or whatever, so you can't get both, plus the practically-guaranteed drops are total shit.

Has that been proven? Perhaps the Ring shares a slot with an H.Q. Scorpion Shell, and Claw shares a lot with some other crap item?

My LS did 6 ODS runs.

1 Serket, 1 VClaw, 4 HQ Scorpion Shells. HQ Shell did NOT drop with the ring (or obviously, VClaw.)

They're on the same spot in the drop chart. You can get 1 of the three.

[Sylvana]

11 orbs last night on Early Bird catches the Wyrm (not so bad, usually 10 mins max per run); no Juggy or Belt whatsoever. And only one Beard, which made me feel really bad for some randoms who had shown up when they saw people doing the runs hoping to lot on that.

Our drops in general just really sucked on it. Two of us got the exact same drops right in a row, with the biggest drops being a Bayard's Sword and a Shuriken. First run only had an Unsho in it; one person got three hi-reraisers (which is... really weird) and the polearm.

We'd did some NIN/BRD testing on this some months back and found it laughingly easy considering how hard everyone always said it was; was kind of funny to go in last night to find out the AI had changed. No one was really expecting the full alliance draw-in, hehe. :D

Hes always done full alliance draw in.

[Ronz12]

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9...thewyrmgb6.png

Did 5 runs and got belt on last orb.

[Ashira]

Hes always done full alliance draw in.

Really? I totally do not remember it at all from our runs some months ago... guess we lucked out somehow then. So strange.

[RKenshin]

So in all the screen shots I've seen a Juggernaut or Speed belt drop it's been in the third slot... It must be alternated with the synthesis materials in that spot. No chance at getting both a belt and a jugg then either.

[Lindstrom]

Somewhere there is a bald Siren. Maybe she's in rehab.

[Ashira]

So in all the screen shots I've seen a Juggernaut or Speed belt drop it's been in the third slot... It must be alternated with the synthesis materials in that spot. No chance at getting both a belt and a jugg then either.

Yeah, I noticed that last night as well, compared shots; it's the same slot as Dragon Meat/Dragon Heart.

[Weeks]

Only time I've had it drawn in is when I initially aggroed it from a distance with Kurayami. Then, it'll either do the breath move or will draw in. Just charge up to him and get in melee range before building any hate and he won't do either of those.

[RKenshin]

So in all the screen shots I've seen a Juggernaut or Speed belt drop it's been in the third slot... It must be alternated with the synthesis materials in that spot. No chance at getting both a belt and a jugg then either.

Yeah, I noticed that last night as well, compared shots; it's the same slot as Dragon Meat/Dragon Heart.

So the drop rate might be even worse than it seems. :\

Maybe a 5% chance at that item slot not being a heart/synthesis material/whatever, and then a 50% chance at it being a belt. I think I've heard of the same amount of juggs dropping as belts, so yeah.

[Ashira]

Only time I've had it drawn in is when I initially aggroed it from a distance with Kurayami. Then, it'll either do the breath move or will draw in. Just charge up to him and get in melee range before building any hate and he won't do either of those.

We ended up having an initial person outside alliance aggro him, already invited so that as soon as we all ran up he could just hit /join. Was handy since we also had a few people double boxing and that made it difficult to move them out of the way in time to avoid breath sometimes.

But overall it was a really really annoying run for drops overall. With the depression and whatnot, hey, getting 800k+ is still halfway decent it seems, esp since it would seem that the other high ticket items (eg serket ring) moved into bcs have a fair enough drop rate (esp with as often as they get done) to warrant a price drop. Siren's Hair bound to plummet again though too, with this being spammed as often as it is now.

[RKenshin]

Actually as long as someone doesn't get hate on him from outside his travel range you won't have everyone get drawn in.

We had a PLD in ally run in at the start of each run and set it up to avoid the initial TP attack hitting everyone and it worked fine. The only time everyone was drawn in was when the PLD's casting was interrupted (from running/stopping short), and a RDM pulled hate by casting Slow II from outside the range before the PLD had hate.

[divisortheory]

So in all the screen shots I've seen a Juggernaut or Speed belt drop it's been in the third slot... It must be alternated with the synthesis materials in that spot. No chance at getting both a belt and a jugg then either.

Yeah, I noticed that last night as well, compared shots; it's the same slot as Dragon Meat/Dragon Heart.

So the drop rate might be even worse than it seems. :\

Maybe a 5% chance at that item slot not being a heart/synthesis material/whatever, and then a 50% chance at it being a belt. I think I've heard of the same amount of juggs dropping as belts, so yeah.

That seems pushing it a little bit. 1/20? Seriously doubt it. Probably more like 10% chance of not getting a <insert junk item>, then if you don't get junk something like 70/30 Jugg/Speed Belt

[RKenshin]

Basing off of what I've read on this forum and heard from other linkshells experiences on my server and friend's servers... As far as the drop rates go for either Jugg or Speed Belt, I've know of 1/19, 1/8, 1/5, 0/16, 0/11, 0/10, 0/5.

Total of 3 drops in a total of 74 runs. Still seems a lot like 5%.

In those drops there were 2 Juggs and 1 Belt. There's also the first post of a Speed Belt dropping for a total of 2 belts, but I don't know how many runs they did so I didn't count it.

As I said, as horrible as it sounds... It does look like a 5% chance of not getting trash, with a 50/50 chance of it being a speed belt.

But, either way this is still speculation so take it as you will.

[Kirschy]

0/9 on axe/belt for us. 1 beard drop. I always ran up for the intial aggro, sometimes he'd use a TP right off, sometimes he'd wait like 10-15 seconds and then use one. Was weird... didn't see any draw-ins though. Fire resist worked nice when it flew.

[Evelyn]

even if drop rate on the belt is 2.5%, its gotta be better than waiting for KA to drop one to a non-rmt. Adding KA's new belt to the mix, and that its only slightly better haste than swift belt anyway... I'd say its still not gonna be that bad.