[NEW]Speed Belt/O. Kote/CC/Striders/Serket Ring

[Goldfish]

From the POL site concerning the 3-7 Update

The strength of certain monsters in the Grand Palace of Hu'Xzoi and the Garden of Ru'Hmet has been adjusted.

We have 3 drops that need confirming and 3 NM Aerns that have had their strength "adjusted"

Maybe the Ix's now have a rare chance at dropping these last few unconfirmed items.

[Isildur]

From the POL site concerning the 3-7 Update

The strength of certain monsters in the Grand Palace of Hu'Xzoi and the Garden of Ru'Hmet has been adjusted.

We have 3 drops that need confirming and 3 NM Aerns that have had their strength "adjusted"

Maybe the Ix's now have a rare chance at dropping these last few unconfirmed items.

i hope that was sarcasm

[rydz-asura]

Speculation:

Wouldn't it be in keeping with their style to put it in the Crab BCNM? While it seems unlikely for it to be put in a lvl 20 fight, it is possible since that is one of the harder ones. Also, this would have the side effect of making mannequins much easier to come by. Feel free to taunt me if someone has tried that one already.

[Zilong]

Speculation:

Wouldn't it be in keeping with their style to put it in the Crab BCNM? While it seems unlikely for it to be put in a lvl 20 fight, it is possible since that is one of the harder ones. Also, this would have the side effect of making mannequins much easier to come by. Feel free to taunt me if someone has tried that one already.

Problem with this is that everything that they have added into BCNM was added to BCNMs that's of the level, or within 10 levels of the item

PCC-40
KC-60
CC/E-bow-60
Archer-40
Emp-30

Oh...shit...I totally forgot that Leaping is 30...

So far it's only the exception, but it might just be possible that heavy metal crabs has it.

[Serif]

Speculation:

Wouldn't it be in keeping with their style to put it in the Crab BCNM? While it seems unlikely for it to be put in a lvl 20 fight, it is possible since that is one of the harder ones. Also, this would have the side effect of making mannequins much easier to come by. Feel free to taunt me if someone has tried that one already.

That was what I was thinking.

Yagudo BCNM drops the Fuma and Kote.
Shadow BCNM drops the E Bow and CCs.

I was just talking to my LS about how it would make sense for a Crab to drop Speed Belt.

Some other people thinking that Copy Cat would drop it because doesn't Haste shit already drop from there?

[Demetrius*]

bcnm's have a pretty strict rule of dropping items in accordance to the level of the BC.
i.e. bc20 drops level 20ish gear bc30 drops 30ish etc etc. i really really doubt you'd find it in anything less than a bc50.

[mandoo]

Yea bro, POIDH but my LS phriends have confirmed Fuma to drop from Undying Promise, BC40 in Qu'bia Arena

[Mytiwar]

From the POL site concerning the 3-7 Update

The strength of certain monsters in the Grand Palace of Hu'Xzoi and the Garden of Ru'Hmet has been adjusted.

We have 3 drops that need confirming and 3 NM Aerns that have had their strength "adjusted"

Maybe the Ix's now have a rare chance at dropping these last few unconfirmed items.

I do hope that you were kidding because that's very, very, very unlikely.

There's not even any link beside the fact it was done in the same update.

[klvino]

From the POL site concerning the 3-7 Update

The strength of certain monsters in the Grand Palace of Hu'Xzoi and the Garden of Ru'Hmet has been adjusted.

We have 3 drops that need confirming and 3 NM Aerns that have had their strength "adjusted"

Maybe the Ix's now have a rare chance at dropping these last few unconfirmed items.

I do hope that you were kidding because that's very, very, very unlikely.

There's not even any link beside the fact it was done in the same update.

Look mommie, someone fell into a sarchasm.

[Sonomaa]

This thread is turning into more speculation, future-congrats on getting another topic locked.

The topic getting locked was because it derailed. If I'm not mistaken (P.S. I'm not), the original post even ASKED for speculation.

logic won't stop the tonko truck

ibtl

my ability to remove mod status access will stop any truck

[fndragon]

Just did 6 runs of E-vase-ive Action. Nothing resembling a good drop or a speed belt. However, we did manage to get our time down to 1m35s. We went there from the suggestion on the wiki that speed belt would drop, but nothing dropped for us.

[Sesar]

bcnm's have a pretty strict rule of dropping items in accordance to the level of the BC.
i.e. bc20 drops level 20ish gear bc30 drops 30ish etc etc. i really really doubt you'd find it in anything less than a bc50.

While that is generally the case, Strider Boots are level 20 and they drop from a KS99 now. Maybe SE is bucking the trend?

EDIT: I see you were referring to Beastmen's seal orbs so your theory may still hold true. I was confused by you callling them BCNM's since technically, a BCNM is any Burning Circle fight and I tend to call all fights BCNM, be it Beastmen's or Kindred's seal orb.

[BRP]

Um Strider Boots are different. They originally dropped from a level 60(or 65?) mob. I think the level 20 thing is meant to be apart of their appeal.

[Nighteagle]

Seriously, if level mattered on the item, wouldnt Cassie Earring be the item to come from a BC20? Think about them apples >_>;

Level of an item has nothing to do with BC. Just that the item that drops revolves around level of NM (in BCNM), HNM usually put into KSNM. Not sure how SE figured out to put strider boots in turtle BC and healing staff in Behemoth, but then again, half the things SE usually does is weird. Thief Knife anyone?

[Sonomaa]

Level of an item has nothing to do with BC. Just that the item that drops revolves around level of NM (in BCNM), HNM usually put into KSNM. Not sure how SE figured out to put strider boots in turtle BC and healing staff in Behemoth, but then again, half the things SE usually does is weird. Thief Knife anyone?

I think everyone is missing a big picture that SE is trying to paint for us regarding Thief Knife. Weve always asked what TH was worth. SE has always declined to respond. This is their response, it is Nothing.

[shihei]

Level of an item has nothing to do with BC. Just that the item that drops revolves around level of NM (in BCNM), HNM usually put into KSNM. Not sure how SE figured out to put strider boots in turtle BC and healing staff in Behemoth, but then again, half the things SE usually does is weird. Thief Knife anyone?

I think everyone is missing a big picture that SE is trying to paint for us regarding Thief Knife. Weve always asked what TH was worth. SE has always declined to respond. This is their response, it is Nothing.

i feal sorry for anyone who feels this way. sounds like a bandwagon lolthf response to me.
Everyone always asked them to change that nm because of the abysmal drop rate on it from the NM and since it was camped all the time by rmt and players alike. lolnynjamentality
edit: not to mention it was "the rmt" knife
nothing screams "needs changing" like a knife that drops 2 times in a month and sells for 30-50M <.<
now that "anyone" can have it is all of a sudden useless? <.<

[Viq]

Level of an item has nothing to do with BC. Just that the item that drops revolves around level of NM (in BCNM), HNM usually put into KSNM. Not sure how SE figured out to put strider boots in turtle BC and healing staff in Behemoth, but then again, half the things SE usually does is weird. Thief Knife anyone?

I think everyone is missing a big picture that SE is trying to paint for us regarding Thief Knife. Weve always asked what TH was worth. SE has always declined to respond. This is their response, it is Nothing.

i feal sorry for anyone who feels this way. sounds like a bandwagon lolthf response to me.
Everyone always asked them to change that nm because of the abysmal drop rate on it from the NM and since it was camped all the time by rmt and players alike. lolnynjamentality

Except people have run tests to show TH+1 being about a 1% increase in drop rate. It's not nothing, but it sure is close.

[shihei]

Level of an item has nothing to do with BC. Just that the item that drops revolves around level of NM (in BCNM), HNM usually put into KSNM. Not sure how SE figured out to put strider boots in turtle BC and healing staff in Behemoth, but then again, half the things SE usually does is weird. Thief Knife anyone?

I think everyone is missing a big picture that SE is trying to paint for us regarding Thief Knife. Weve always asked what TH was worth. SE has always declined to respond. This is their response, it is Nothing.

i feal sorry for anyone who feels this way. sounds like a bandwagon lolthf response to me.
Everyone always asked them to change that nm because of the abysmal drop rate on it from the NM and since it was camped all the time by rmt and players alike. lolnynjamentality

Except people have run tests to show TH+1 being about a 1% increase in drop rate. It's not nothing, but it sure is close.

except i dont need some idiot doing tests since that will not always be the same result for each person.
luck factor is the number one factor for drops.
And I am under the impression thf knife does not work like alot of ppl think it would be.
2 is not far from 1 if you know what i mean, unless you are talking moons.

[Khamsin]

Level of an item has nothing to do with BC. Just that the item that drops revolves around level of NM (in BCNM), HNM usually put into KSNM. Not sure how SE figured out to put strider boots in turtle BC and healing staff in Behemoth, but then again, half the things SE usually does is weird. Thief Knife anyone?

I think everyone is missing a big picture that SE is trying to paint for us regarding Thief Knife. Weve always asked what TH was worth. SE has always declined to respond. This is their response, it is Nothing.

i feal sorry for anyone who feels this way. sounds like a bandwagon lolthf response to me.
Everyone always asked them to change that nm because of the abysmal drop rate on it from the NM and since it was camped all the time by rmt and players alike. lolnynjamentality

Except people have run tests to show TH+1 being about a 1% increase in drop rate. It's not nothing, but it sure is close.

Depends on what you're trying to get to drop.

If something has a 1% drop rate as is, another +1% (since %s are additive in FFXI) means doubling the drop rate. If something already has a 20% drop rate, making it 21% probably isn't going to be noticible.

[shihei]

Yup, plus it also could be responsible for double-triple drops, like when you get double abj. drops. ever seen a dhalmel drop 3 hides?
i personally think it works like as if you had 1 extra shot for a "roll" and your parties best "roll" determines drops you get