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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync
    But, it's still Avesta. Doing shit that's not really that challenging that a bunch of noobs think is godly.
    Let’s be honest nothing in this game is that amazingly hard. As long as you aren’t half-retarded you can do 99% of the things in this game just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuvo
    I was never really that impressed with the all the other HNM he solo'd (The stuff Apple Pie did was more skillful imo), but this one is very impressive. Seiryu is hard to land gravity on and runs really fucking fast @_@ How'd he manage to kite it w/o getting chomped up? (At work now)

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    k, I didn't watch the video, but seeing that I've watched the rest of his videos anyway, and knowing what I know, this is how it happened:

    Max Physical Dmg%- gear
    12% Movement Speed
    Max Enfeebling Merits/Equip with some pieces switched out for INT
    Max Ice Accuracy, Max Convert
    Random Haste pieces for recast speed
    Probably tossed a wind to cut the magical damage

    Bio 2, Poison 2 and hope it lands, Bind, run away. I'm sure he straight tanked it quite a bit too, seeing as he kinda straight-tanked and killed Bune one day. I don't think Seiryu or any of the 4 gods builds a bind resistance like other mobs do. but maybe SE gave him that time mage job we've wanted and is secretly casting bind 2

    Random fact: Bind/Gravity resistance does not reset until mob returns to an original spawn position and deaggros all targets. Go screw with Sabotender Bailarina if you wanna learn things about that. It's a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geno
    Quote Originally Posted by Terrance
    He didn't have reraise on.

    As far as I can remember, landing bind on Seiryu even with perfect gear (sans AV boomerang) with ice and enfeebling merits is hit or miss, but Avesta was near 100% which is unreal. His land rate for gravity in other videos is unreproduceable. Near the end it looked like he got off two blizzards without breaking bind which is not common on anything above DC and is really really rare on anything above tough.

    Last time I soloed an NM with bind it became immune in under half an hour, and thats with a lot of time the time spent kiting with gravity.

    Must be nice to be in Japan and be able to cast spells immediatly after stopping from running and not have them interrupted without waiting 2 seconds first.

    I assume he's on PS2 because even pegged at 30fps my menus don't respond like that.
    I know that they added gradual gravity resistence to nearly every damn mob in the game in an old patch, but did they do that for bind also? I don't recall reading it (even if it would be intuitive to think they would do both, I don't think they did). ENMs (at least holy cow) do for sure have gradual resistence to bind from my experience.

    As for the rest of that post, fairly positive he is on PS2, and the video is sped up enough to explain away all the other things you said lol.
    Gravity was nerfed against monsters, Bind however was not. (though I have a strong prediction in the near future it will be)

    Bind is really easy to land on seiryu, with lv3 ice merits and 328 skill (with +6 m.acc from equip gages and seraweels) I landed 18 consectitive binds on a seiryu (I joined a social shell 1 time in sky, was rather akward) I could have landed more, but I died cause I wasn't sub nin, I was /whm

    from the video he uses Pancea (removes silence and slow caused by radiant breath)

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    i miss the old days of BG forums... when characters like Judah dominated with cut throat drama threads... and 'ur a' posts pranced through the fields..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kuno
    I'm never impressed by any of this stuff.

    + anymore.

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    I don't see any of you soloing seiryu now do I? All of the "its not that hard" penis stroking in here is disgusting. The guy does something that more than likely nobody else has done and everyone must post how easy it was as a means to discredit his kill. If you want to turn this in to an argument about what skill really is, by all means do so, but I won't be participating. Please continue posting how you can do it too and how you're completely unimpressed, and I'll keep believing that the only reason you haven't tried doing it is because you're lazy and don't want to take the time to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    I don't see any of you soloing seiryu now do I? All of the "its not that hard" penis stroking in here is disgusting. The guy does something that more than likely nobody else has done and everyone must post how easy it was as a means to discredit his kill. If you want to turn this in to an argument about what skill really is, by all means do so, but I won't be participating. Please continue posting how you can do it too and how you're completely unimpressed, and I'll keep believing that the only reason you haven't tried doing it is because you're lazy and don't want to take the time to do so.
    Whats ironic is, 2 rdms duo'ed him a few months ago with many deaths/reraises. When they posted, they got praised.

    When Avesta does it solo, flawlessly, its shot down. Wonder why that is

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    Because secretly nobody wants to believe that .jp players are worthy of praise anymore.

    It's kind of stupid for people to boast about how unimpressed they are by Avesta's feats. To maintain composure and kill mobs the way he does, however slow and mind-numbing it may be to watch, is nevertheless interesting in that it happened. You're within your right to be not impressed by 2 hours of binding/bioing/poisoning and running around, but don't simply dismiss this as easy. Look at the meds he burns through and the fact that he survives things like being breathed/rushed and never run out of MP when it matters. Easy? He likely lost money doing this solo. Calling him 'god' is probably reaching too far back into the days when a lot of people were worshipping the ground .jp players tread and is therefore out of the comfort zone for most contemporary NA endgamers. I figure that's where a lot of the hate is coming from. God? No. Exceptionally skilled and ballsy? Hell yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vail
    Bind is really easy to land on seiryu, with lv3 ice merits and 328 skill (with +6 m.acc from equip gages and seraweels) I landed 18 consectitive binds on a seiryu
    Ahhh that explains it, I didn't know about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terrance
    Near the end it looked like he got off two blizzards without breaking bind which is not common on anything above DC and is really really rare on anything above tough.
    Seiryu was casting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrcloudz
    That was pretty cool, but I'm more interested in Avesta's taste of music >_>

    edit: Well, the fact that it was the same song on loop kinda sucks, but it was a good song!
    I agree lol, I've always liked the music he added in his vids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    I don't see any of you soloing seiryu now do I? All of the "its not that hard" penis stroking in here is disgusting. The guy does something that more than likely nobody else has done and everyone must post how easy it was as a means to discredit his kill. If you want to turn this in to an argument about what skill really is, by all means do so, but I won't be participating. Please continue posting how you can do it too and how you're completely unimpressed, and I'll keep believing that the only reason you haven't tried doing it is because you're lazy and don't want to take the time to do so.
    I'm guessing the reason other people don't do it is more because its not worth it, than because they're lazy.

    I think the "easy" mentality just comes from the thought that if you can do something for 5 minutes, you can do it for 3 hours. They figure they can bind and DoT Seiryu for 5 minutes, they could probably also do it for 3 hours... but such a boring task doesn't really appeal to them so they don't. I'd have to agree.

    Avesta proved he has the patience and focus to continue doing this for hours, and managed to not fuck up during that time (though who knows how many failed Seiryus he had prior to this one). But he didn't prove he had any more skill in binding and DoTing than any other RDM.

    He is dedicated, he is focused, and he is progressive in pushing the limits of what can be done with enough time, meds, and RR charges. That, he can hold above anyone on these forums. But mental endurance aside, he hasn't demonstrated any truly exceptional talent. That's not to say he has no talent, as he certainly has skill as a RDM. You can't pick any random RDM and expect them to do this even if they matched Avesta's patience. Hell, I can't even pick a random RDM and expect them to keep haste up in a merit PT.

    However, I would wager that if everybody had Avesta's patience, many people would also be able to solo Genbu and Seiryu. But not many do. That is what we should be praising Avesta for; he has phenomenal patience, focus, dedication and manages himself well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genosync

    Random fact: Bind/Gravity resistance does not reset until mob returns to an original spawn position and deaggros all targets. Go screw with Sabotender Bailarina if you wanna learn things about that. It's a joke.
    I've doued that NM before, I don't get what you are sayin? I could solo it if I wanted to but takes forevvvvveeeerrrrrrr... And the adds suck. Poison also sucks to land -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    I'm guessing the reason other people don't do it is more because its not worth it, than because they're lazy.
    That pretty much says it. I'm not claiming I could do it, I probably couldn't. But the the majority of people with the skill to pull this off probably don't have much interest in blowing millions on pop items, elixers, and cure items just to post a video on the internet. Avesta has some pretty ridiculous gear (read: everything short of d.ring) and I'm assuming is very well off financially. He has the luxury of being able to blow cash doing this stuff, more power to him. Most would need a potential return to even consider attempting it however.

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    Time limit, Auto-Regen, unavoidable adds, and immunity to needed spells (Which can be worked around on most mobs) are the limiting factors to what a RDM can solo. Name any mob that doesn't fit into these categories, and I bet a RDM can solo it. Hell, Jormy might be soloable if you can get him to an add-free area.

    I remember back in the day, if I said in LS chat that I could solo something that was then hard, like sky NMs, I caught 7 kinds of shit from people in LS saying its impossible. Specifically, I remember saying that I think Faust is soloable (Which he is), Olla is soloable (he is) and a few other random things. People are entirely too quick to discount something as impossible just because they've seen people wipe to it. Hell, some people in my LS are still skeptical that Yovras can be duod/triod.

    I think that most of the people bitching are probably the same ones that never believed it could happen. They're just pissed that they were proven wrong.

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    Doesn't count if he didn't solo Mother Globe and Steam Cleaner also. \:D/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quicklet
    Doesn't count if he didn't solo Mother Globe and Steam Cleaner also. \:D/
    lol

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    coming soon: Avesta solos Mother Globe with WHM/PUP using banishga and high potions. The concussive shockwaves created by his hulking ePenis pop Steam Cleaner, kill it, and deliver the gem to his Mog Box. News at 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jPuff
    coming soon: Avesta solos Mother Globe with WHM/PUP using banishga and high potions. The concussive shockwaves created when he pops Steam Cleaner, goes yellow, and the RMT steal it. News at 11.
    Fixed :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celeras
    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    I don't see any of you soloing seiryu now do I? All of the "its not that hard" penis stroking in here is disgusting. The guy does something that more than likely nobody else has done and everyone must post how easy it was as a means to discredit his kill. If you want to turn this in to an argument about what skill really is, by all means do so, but I won't be participating. Please continue posting how you can do it too and how you're completely unimpressed, and I'll keep believing that the only reason you haven't tried doing it is because you're lazy and don't want to take the time to do so.
    Whats ironic is, 2 rdms duo'ed him a few months ago with many deaths/reraises. When they posted, they got praised.

    When Avesta does it solo, flawlessly, its shot down. Wonder why that is
    Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think the title of the thread is overdoing it but nobody can deny Avesta's initiative at RDM solo-play.

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    Lol @ People sayin they're not impressed by this...

    Takes more than just HP&MP potions to kill this thing solo...

    I'd like to see any of those 'non impressed' people in here to try this with 20 HP&MP potions and see if you could do it, hell even try it duo im sure you'd still die..

    Play nice fellas..

    And yeah Avesta is god of all RDMs. Byakko next! Duh.

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