Avesta is god.

[TheDiscoBiscuit]

I think the question is not "could you do it", but more along the lines of "why would anyone want to do it?"

Why did Colombus sail the Ocean Blue? Because he could.
Why did the chicken cross the road? Although debatable, its really because the chicken could.

Why does the USS Enterprise boldly go where no man has gone before? Because they can.

Why does Avesta do it? Because he can.

This discussion is a snapshot of society. People praising, discrediting etc etc.

Why did you cry until you finally got an osode? Because you could.

[Luke]

I think the question is not "could you do it", but more along the lines of "why would anyone want to do it?"

Anyone who plays FFXI a lot knows there's only so much to do. New activities are few and far between. I'm certain he does it as a test of his skill and also for a "rush". I've seen Seiryu use fang rush on a PLD for 1000dmg+... I'd be nervous as fuck being there alone with it; much less being able to stay composed when it paras you and your shadows are being taken etc... it's a test of wits.

Imagine if someone on this forum managed to solo Seiryu before Avesta did and made a video; they'd be getting nonstop praise from the get-go. I think maybe part of the reason why there's a crowd of people who say "I'm not impressed" is because time and time again, it's Avesta who does this stuff before anyone else.

[Khamsin]

I think the question is not "could you do it", but more along the lines of "why would anyone want to do it?"

Anyone who plays FFXI a lot knows there's only so much to do. New activities are few and far between. I'm certain he does it as a test of his skill and also for a "rush". I've seen Seiryu use fang rush on a PLD for 1000dmg+... I'd be nervous as fuck being there alone with it; much less being able to stay composed when it paras you and your shadows are being taken etc... it's a test of wits.

Imagine if someone on this forum managed to solo Seiryu before Avesta did and made a video; they'd be getting nonstop praise from the get-go. I think maybe part of the reason why there's a crowd of people who say "I'm not impressed" is because time and time again, it's Avesta who does this stuff before anyone else.

There's only two realistic reasons to have to do that sort of thing that would make it worth it.

1) You want Seiryu items but cannot get a sky LS or any help to do it.
2) Your LS wipes for some reason and you're the last one standing, so instead of letting it depop, you solo it until everyone is up again.

As for proving to yourself that you can do it, try this: have your LS give you the pop items and, with them standing by, pop Seiryu. Solo him for about 5-10 minutes or until everything that can happen for the next 3 hours has happened (short of 2hour which can just be bound). If you can survive through a cycle or two of the repetitive routine you'll be locked into for the next 3 hours, then you know you can do it if you keep at it. But instead of wasting the time, just get your alliance on it and kill the damn thing already.

[Septimus]

Imagine if someone on this forum managed to solo Seiryu before Avesta did and made a video; they'd be getting nonstop praise from the get-go.

I'm sorry, you must be new here. The response from this forum would be, "thanks for cock-blocking anyone else who wanted to do Seiryu for three hours".

[TheDiscoBiscuit]

Imagine if someone on this forum managed to solo Seiryu before Avesta did and made a video; they'd be getting nonstop praise from the get-go.

I'm sorry, you must be new here. The response from this forum would be, "thanks for cock-blocking anyone else who wanted to do Seiryu for three hours".

Couldn't be said any better.

[Luke]

So I'm just imagining that Wopa duoing it or w/e got a lot of praise... but you're saying someone soloing it would be told to gtfo?

I fail at using the search but it would be interesting to see that other topic of Seiryu.

[Tyrn]

hey I'm not knocking his accomplishments- I'm merely stating that his bladder deserves as much credit as his strats. I don't have the patience or focus for a 4 hour fight, end of story. I once soloed the Mountain Worm NM in Uleguerand Range as RDM/DRK....took me just over one hour and that sucked to be honest. So I'd say about 1 hr is probably my personal limit.

I give credit where its due, and he is certainly due it. However, I'm not gonna bow down and blow his epeen for it. Good for him, and all the attempts it took to figure it out in the first place. Me, I prefer sunlight. :D

I find it hard to believe you can only play FFXI 1 hour at a time and get ANYTHING done.

And yeah the theory that if you can solo Seiryu for 3 minutes, then you can solo him from 3 hours can go right out the window. I would believe it if you had unlimited MP and Seiryu did the same moves in the same order for those 3 hours.

Fact is, you don't know what's going to happen next. And being able to overcome any obstacles for 3 hours while maintaining your strategy is pretty impressive.

It's like saying, hey this LS fought Vrtra for 3 minutes. Surely they can fight him for 3 hours then.

[TheDiscoBiscuit]

The fact that Avesta has been known for soloing stuff for some time now also has an effect, I'd assume. How long ago was it that you heard he solo'd Genbu? I heard a while ago. So hearing now that he solo'd something else, the shock factor is kinda drained concerning him. Nothing against him, its pretty neat. But been there, done that.

[ringthree]

The fact that Avesta has been known for soloing stuff for some time now also has an effect, I'd assume. How long ago was it that you heard he solo'd Genbu? I heard a while ago. So hearing now that he solo'd something else, the shock factor is kinda drained concerning him. Nothing against him, its pretty neat. But been there, done that.

I suppose this speaks to the quality of Avesta. The fact that things that were once laughable are mundane is a testament to his capability.

[TheDiscoBiscuit]

Its like drugs. What they call "chasing the dragon". The first time will never be matched. When we heard it the first time, it was pretty cool to hear about. But any time after that, and the shock of it wasn't as severe as when it first happened. "Oh, cool. Avesta solo'd something else now." As I said, its not a knock on him or his abilities, but Avesta being praised for soloing stuff is cool for only so long.

[Luke]

There's only two realistic reasons to have to do that sort of thing that would make it worth it.

1) You want Seiryu items but cannot get a sky LS or any help to do it.
2) Your LS wipes for some reason and you're the last one standing, so instead of letting it depop, you solo it until everyone is up again.

Do you honestly believe he solod Seiryu because he wants an item from it? Doing it for the accomplishment of doing it isn't realistic?

People try to brag about killing "x" HNM with "x" people all the time; but soloing something is pointless/unimpressive?

[Septimus]

What they call "chasing the dragon".

Or like Madonna. At first she came out with Like a Virgin and such and people were shocked. Then she had to go more daring with each album to try to maintain some amount of shock value. Eventually she came out with her Sex book, but by that point we were all inoculated to her antics and no one cared.

So then she became Jewish and no one ever heard from her again.

[Jeryhn]

I always thought the "thrill" of Avesta having solo'd something generally regarded as "impossible" to solo kinda died down when there were certain NMs he soloed using speed hacks.

Or it could just be the time lapse shit. Dunno. Yay for soloing Seiryu, why isn't it Hydra?

[TsingTao]

I didn't hear he speed hacked. I'd heard rumors people killed nearby aggro mobs for a safe kite area, but that's it.

For me it's impressive and it's not all at once. It's impressive in that it took a crapload of work to gather the gear/merits/etc. needed to make these sorts of things feasible. Most RDM would get their asses handed to them. It's not impressive in that once you've gotten to that point....it's a matter of concentration and bladder control.

I suppose in the end impressive wins out though. I'd never have the patience to do it even if I had the gear.

[megabyte]

I'll be impressed when he solos AV.

[Stellar]

If he started early winds day and ended just before ice day ended, wouldn't that be a little under 2 hours?

[TheDiscoBiscuit]

Or like Madonna.

Ok. Moral of the story: Avesta = Madonna. 8)

End of thread?

[Septimus]

Or like Madonna.

Ok. Moral of the story: Avesta = Madonna. 8)

End of thread?

Nah. Avesta could probably act if he tried.

EDIT- He also probaqbly doesn't have a pompous, fake British accent.

[Mugekuge]

http://files.filefront.com/Cactrot_Rapi ... einfo.html

I think that cactrot rapido solo was more impressive.

[Therin]

http://files.filefront.com/Cactrot_Rapi ... einfo.html

I think that cactrot rapido solo was more impressive.

Many many people have soloed Cactrot. As far as I know, Avesta is the first/only to solo Seiryu.