NSLs: Our government going too far?

[megabyte]

Here is the link to the full text of the legislation. I'll edit my posts and delete it from there so you can scroll through this page without crashing your browser. =P

[Jeryhn]

I'm not sure what I'm more annoyed by: The fact that you copy+paste all that to try and illustrate a point, or the fact that you expect us to read all that to find the point you're trying to make while not editing it yourself to make it appear more clear and concise.

[MF Perm]

Those who speak out against the Patriot Act obviously have something to hide or are involved in illegal activity.

Wanna tap my phone? Go right ahead. I ain't doing shit, what do I care.
Wanna monitor my internet usage? Be my guest.

Any person or group who actively opposes this (Whats up CAIR) is definately involved in some shit....no doubt about it. I hardly think your downloads of beastiality porn are of concern to the FBI, but the guy next door downloading instructions on making a dirty bomb and a schematic of the local sports arena might send up a few red flags.

Its time people wake up and realize that those hell bent on the fall of the US are operating on our soil. How many buildings have to fall before these liberal asshats realize that their bullshit hippy ideaology doesn't work?

Which basically gives the government, and those running it, the power to determine who a terrorist is and what terrorist activities are. Gogo fascist police state.

The best solution to not having to worry about terrorism is to NOT FUCK WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AND TRY TO FORCE OUR CAPITALISTIC IDEALS ON THEM.

Naturally any robot will say to just do what the man says because he knows better, and anyone who argues with it is guilty of something and must be dealt with. Great idea there, that's called the death of freedom. The first wars of this country were based on opposition to tyranny such as laws like this limiting the rights of the citizen and empowering the government.

This same bullshit happened in the 60's with Abby Hoffman and the anti-war protestors civil rights consistently abused by the FBI, CIA and federal government.

Any American citizen that is afraid to die for their freedom is not worth having it.

Get the fuck out of the middle-east's business to keep the rich richer, and problems like this won't happen. There wouldn't be a need for a Patriot Act or a worry about terrorism. And don't give me this bullshit that it comes to us because we're powerful we're hated so it comes with the territory. No one in those countries gave a shit about us until we started getting all up in their business, they all used to hate Russia.

[Misterjingles]

Grats on being able to copy+paste. Don't you think a link would have been more effective so I could have read this at my lesiure rather than me having to press Page Down like 8 times?

Don't mess with him man, he's part of the ATF, I mean it because they raided my neighbors house on Tuesday and had like 5 SUVs parked around my neighborhood, and when I was about to call the police (you would too if you saw this suspicious looking vehicle sitting in front of your house since 5:30am, with two shady looking people to boot, and when your sister confronts them as to why they're there the driver dosen't say anything and the black dude in the passenger side goes "Oh just looking around") and all 5 vehicles just rushed up to my neighbors house and busted the guy there.

I'm eventually going to figure out what branch megabyte works for D:

[megabyte]

I'm not sure what I'm more annoyed by: The fact that you copy+paste all that to try and illustrate a point, or the fact that you expect us to read all that to find the point you're trying to make while not editing it yourself to make it appear more clear and concise.

I did put certain stuff in bold, which illustrated my point, but I do admit.. it was hidden behind the rest of it. It's gone now. =P

Don't mess with him man, he's part of the ATF, I mean it because they raided my neighbors house on Tuesday and had like 5 SUVs parked around my neighborhood, and when I was about to call the police (you would too if you saw this suspicious looking vehicle sitting in front of your house since 5:30am, with two shady looking people to boot, and when your sister confronts them as to why they're there the driver dosen't say anything and the black dude in the passenger side goes "Oh just looking around") and all 5 vehicles just rushed up to my neighbors house and busted the guy there.

Seriously lol'd.

[Cleveland]

The best solution to not having to worry about terrorism is to NOT FUCK WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AND TRY TO FORCE OUR CAPITALISTIC IDEALS ON THEM.

Get the fuck out of the middle-east's business to keep the rich richer, and problems like this won't happen. There wouldn't be a need for a Patriot Act or a worry about terrorism. And don't give me this bullshit that it comes to us because we're powerful we're hated so it comes with the territory. No one in those countries gave a shit about us until we started getting all up in their business, they all used to hate Russia.

False.

The foundation that spawned these groups that attack us because we, as you say "fuck with them and try to impose our capitalic ideals on them" was created in 1928, prior to any US involvement in the Middle East, prior to WWII, prior to the existance of Israel, prior to Desert Storm, etc.

[aurik]

The best solution to not having to worry about terrorism is to NOT FUCK WITH OTHER COUNTRIES AND TRY TO FORCE OUR CAPITALISTIC IDEALS ON THEM.

Get the fuck out of the middle-east's business to keep the rich richer, and problems like this won't happen. There wouldn't be a need for a Patriot Act or a worry about terrorism. And don't give me this bullshit that it comes to us because we're powerful we're hated so it comes with the territory. No one in those countries gave a shit about us until we started getting all up in their business, they all used to hate Russia.

False.

The foundation that spawned these groups that attack us because we, as you say "fuck with them and try to impose our capitalic ideals on them" was created in 1928, prior to any US involvement in the Middle East, prior to WWII, prior to the existance of Israel, prior to Desert Storm, etc.

Straw man. He never claimed that these groups were created at any particular point in time, just that they're angry at the USA now because of its continued involvement in the region.

[yukijin]

I'm against the patriot act, and everything that has stemmed from it (the U.S. version of the KGB for one)

Basically, fuck it, the U.S. is screwed if the democrats don't have at least 12 years in office to undo this madness.

I'm moving to australia or something.

I beat you to it, moving to Australia soon and then I wont have to deal with this shit anymore.

[Celeras]

Who fucking cares? Shit like this will never affect me, or anybody I care about.

Nor will it affect you, but go ahead and preach about how much you all need your idea of 'freedom'. When youre done, lets continue to sit on our asses in front of a computer screen and play some more videogames.