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  1. #1
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    double attack and multi hit weapons

    can double attack proc with multi hit weapons?

    for example, merc kris is 2-3 occasional, so is there a chance that it will ever hit 4 times?

    or is there a limit to number of attacks according to the weapon? not sure how anyone could test that, since you wouldn't really know if it was just the weapon's effect or DA actually kicking in.

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    Double attack checks 1st, if it doesnt, then the multi hit effects of the weapon may proc, but Double attack doesn't stack with the extra hits the weapon produces.

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    I believe Da can only proc when the weapon hits 1 time. Which is why so many Ridill WARs do not merit DA.

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    It goes: Triple attack JT > Weapon Triple Attack > Double Attack JT > Weapon Double Attack > Kick Attacks > ||Virtue +1 hit||.

    Virtue weapons can trigger at the same time as a JT double/triple, since they don't check for it having gone off. Odder still, the check for that is after kick attacks, and reflects that in the sequence of attacks.

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    Only weapon that a DA (or TA, though I've yet to test/see this) will stack on are jailer weapons. Had many a 3-attack-round w/ my Fort. Axe.

    Otherwise, if a DA procs on a multihit, it can't proc for a 3rd (or more, in the case of a KC) hit.

    [edit] yeah...3 new posts while i posted mine too <__<;

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    I got DA proc quite often when using mercuris sword. When at the time DA proc and the sword proc with 3 hits ( which total 4), you can notice you able to continue next round of swing without stopping. And it just fun

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    ^ I noticed that with merc. sword as well.

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    Mercurial Sword is a misprint though, it's occasionally 2-4 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromgarde
    Mercurial Sword is a misprint though, it's occasionally 2-4 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epoxy
    Quote Originally Posted by Stromgarde
    Mercurial Sword is a misprint though, it's occasionally 2-4 times.
    just to add to this pld/blm tested it and got 4 swings, w/o brutal, so yes we are sure.

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    word, and I noticed as well that I've gotten 5-attack rounds with Faith Baggyknocks MNK/WAR (atk + stone proc + atk + stone proc + DA, no kicks)

    So, I would assume DA stacks with all jailer weapon virtue stone procs.

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    Oh, I wasn't aware of the m. sword misprint; didn't bother testing w/o DA when I had one. And yes, DA procs on Jailer weapons- I've seen plenty of 5 hit rounds on pld/nin with justice/joy/brutal.

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    merc gsword is the SE way of saying "were sorry gsword is such a bitch to level up"
    we need a scythe that does that now that isnt bahamuts failscythe

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    I've actually heard of war/rng dicking around with m.sword in mire. Sounds fun as hell and hilarious at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    word, and I noticed as well that I've gotten 5-attack rounds with Faith Baggyknocks MNK/WAR (atk + stone proc + atk + stone proc + DA, no kicks)

    So, I would assume DA stacks with all jailer weapon virtue stone procs.
    I've had a similar situation as RDM/NIN using Joyeuse + Justice with Brutal Earring. Very rare to see it happen, but those 5 hit rounds are the stuff that dreams are made of.

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    Fortitude Axe results in lots of triple attacks and war can't triple attack so I would say Double attack stacks with the virtue stone procs its kinda cool when it happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    word, and I noticed as well that I've gotten 5-attack rounds with Faith Baggyknocks MNK/WAR (atk + stone proc + atk + stone proc + DA, no kicks)

    So, I would assume DA stacks with all jailer weapon virtue stone procs.
    I've had a similar situation as RDM/NIN using Joyeuse + Justice with Brutal Earring. Very rare to see it happen, but those 5 hit rounds are the stuff that dreams are made of.
    I swore I had seen the exact same thing with the same gear (yeah I took brutal too). Glad to hear someone else say it, thought I was crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    word, and I noticed as well that I've gotten 5-attack rounds with Faith Baggyknocks MNK/WAR (atk + stone proc + atk + stone proc + DA, no kicks)

    So, I would assume DA stacks with all jailer weapon virtue stone procs.
    I've had a similar situation as RDM/NIN using Joyeuse + Justice with Brutal Earring. Very rare to see it happen, but those 5 hit rounds are the stuff that dreams are made of.
    I swore I had seen the exact same thing with the same gear (yeah I took brutal too). Glad to hear someone else say it, thought I was crazy.
    It's only about 1.25% chance of happening, but when it does it is pure awesome. (50% for each sword, then 5% for earring proc.)

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    erm.... i wonder if half the responders understood the original poster question :

    How to make difference between DA job trait kicking in, and the 2-hits possibility of occuring from a multi hits weapon ? No answer.
    and question 2: Does DA jt stack with multihits' DA ? that got answered between Jailers weaps and normal Multihits yes/no.

    Did i miss something?

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