Genuine Atomos Pictures now with Taj

[Senoska]

Oh lawd. Did he end up killing it?

This needs answering!

NO, HE GAVE UP

Read the thread. This was already awnsered

[Khamsin]

Oh lawd. Did he end up killing it?

This needs answering!

NO, HE GAVE UP

Read the thread. This was already awnsered

I read the thread, and the only answer I saw came from you.

I was expecting one from someone who was there.

And this time, not even Werner von Braun can answer that.

[Senoska]

Oh lawd. Did he end up killing it?

This needs answering!

NO, HE GAVE UP

Read the thread. This was already awnsered

I read the thread, and the only answer I saw came from you.

I was expecting one from someone who was there.

And this time, not even Werner von Braun can answer that.

I was talking to Taj during the entire experience. The GM gave up. And don't be doubting Werner von Braun that fucker is smart.

[Taj]

Senoska is lying, the GM killed it and Ridill dropped.

[Rocl]

I think I speak for everyone here when I ask you to kindly shut the fuck up Senoska. General questions about crazy math formulas tend to go to the crazy guys who generally answer them (i.e. VZX, Aurik). General questions about something that happened to a specific group of people (i.e. getting on Atomos) tend to go to people who were (i.e. Taj, Wizer and that other guy).

Great, you were talking to someone who was there, my grandfather had a friend who fought in World War II, he never went, but he talks as if he were there. I fucking hated him for it.

[Senoska]

I think I speak for everyone here when I ask you to kindly shut the fuck up Senoska. General questions about crazy math formulas tend to go to the crazy guys who generally answer them (i.e. VZX, Aurik). General questions about something that happened to a specific group of people (i.e. getting on Atomos) tend to go to people who were (i.e. Taj, Wizer and that other guy).

Great, you were talking to someone who was there, my grandfather had a friend who fought in World War II, he never went, but he talks as if he were there. I fucking hated him for it.

See I didn't answer the crazy math question, mr von braun did. Its not rocket science. I'm going to answer a question I know the answer if its a retarded question.

If it where a question about some crazy formula for the damage modifier of dia or some shit I would have not said a word... but..... I mean the screenshot was right there..... I dunno what you expect

YEA I SEE THAT SCREENSHOT RIGHT THERE LET ME MAKE IT A BIG MATH PROBLEM

mSTR(VIT*DEF/HMWAWCCC)^howmanywutssagesundisaysonadailybases = HOW MUCH FUCKING FAFNIR HITS FOR.

[Ryko]

It's rather obvious mobs don't adhere to the same damage formulas that we do.

[Taj]

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2350/ymca2ky1.jpg

LOL.

[divisortheory]

It's rather obvious mobs don't adhere to the same damage formulas that we do.

It is?

[Almalexia]

what the fuck are you talking about?

Crab AI.

[Ryko]

It's rather obvious mobs don't adhere to the same damage formulas that we do.

It is?

Considering I've never hit a monster for the same amount of damage my critical does regardless of the damage of my weapon, my level, the mob's level, the mob's vit, my strength, the mob's defense or my current attack uh... yes?

[divisortheory]

It's rather obvious mobs don't adhere to the same damage formulas that we do.

It is?

Considering I've never hit a monster for the same amount of damage my critical does regardless of the damage of my weapon, my level, the mob's level, the mob's vit, my strength, the mob's defense or my current attack uh... yes?

Have you ever tried hitting with a weapon that has a base D of, say, 150?

And as another person said, they sometimes get critted for 640 when they claim Faf on a Lv. 1 mule, and they sometimes get critted for more than 640.

[Senoska]

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/571...kellogoqq1.jpg

Kel: AWW HERE IT GOES

[Ryko]

Admittedly I don't sit there and stare at formulas all day, a lot of the math I adhere to is rather quick, convenient and anecdotal (or just word of mouth from people I trust), I was rather sure a player can, at best, hit for a 2.4x modifier with a critical raising your damage by 1.0x with a cap of 3.0x

Using the (likely faulty) logic that my D50 axe hits for about 181 (or is it 183) critical ca, it means faf's D is about 174 (once again, this is very loose math). That said, as it stands damage and crit formulas do not change according to the D of the weapon you are wielding. If it does when your D hits over 120-150, we'd never know since we can't wield weapons of that caliber, and as such the mob would still not adhere to the same rules we are restricted to.

[gandorf]

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/571...kellogoqq1.jpg

Kel: AWW HERE IT GOES

Greatest show ever.

Who loves orange soda?

[Jeryhn]

It's rather obvious mobs don't adhere to the same damage formulas that we do.

It is?

Considering I've never hit a monster for the same amount of damage my critical does regardless of the damage of my weapon, my level, the mob's level, the mob's vit, my strength, the mob's defense or my current attack uh... yes?

Have you ever tried hitting with a weapon that has a base D of, say, 150?

And as another person said, they sometimes get critted for 640 when they claim Faf on a Lv. 1 mule, and they sometimes get critted for more than 640.

I might be wrong, but doesn't Fafnir have a level variation when it pops?

Couldn't this explain this kind of a damage fluctuation?

[mikazuki]

well the problem is along the lines of 640/3 != 640/2.4

the mob dmg formulas should be similar to those for players, but having a cap on non-crit of pDIF=3 would explain that result.
there's no reason why the simple damage would be capped at 640 anyway.
it's strange that his pDIF on a crit would happen to be 2.4 regularly, but not impossible >.>;

it suggests fafnir DMG is close to 190.

[Taj]

You know, I was hoping this thread would get to 20 pages, and your argument might do the trick. Keep at it plz Divisor/Ryko! :3

[divisortheory]

well the problem is more along the lines of 640/3 != 640/2.4

It doesn't need to be. 640 isn't Fafnir's crit cap, as someone else already mentioned they have been critted for 640 (sometimes), and more than 640 (also sometimes). 640 isn't divisible by 3 anyway, so it clearly isn't calculated with a 3x pDIF modifier. It then stands to reason that the 640 crit occurs when, even though Att/Def and fSTR are all capped, the random element of the damage formula did not produce a pDIF modifier of 3.0 for that particular critical hit. Therefore, Fafnir's crit cap is not necessarily equal to Fafnir's non-crit cap, and the conclusion that enemies necessarily follow different rules than players is shown to be false.

QED

[Senoska]

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/350...nbraun1pq7.jpg