nublet WHM

[Peucritond]

healing magic is the most worthless skill there is in the game.

I see that you never met my friend here, Divine skill on a Red Mage.

(Or his good buddy, Elemental skill on a Dark Knight.)

True but neither of those are the main skill for the job.

[gandorf]

If you think healing magic is useless then your an idiot.

[Alleya]

My group one merits went 4 cure cast 4 regen 2 barspell. I'm pretty pleased with it.

To me, taking a few points less damage is outweighed by being able to reverse damage as quickly and efficiently as possible, but it's still good to have that extra MDB.

[Fng]

If you think healing magic is useless then your an idiot.

wow

[Aerides]

The way I look at it is, Cure 5 is our Jin/Thun4/Barrage/Rampage etc.

Melee are constantly pimping and +1'ing for every extra damage point to raise their DPS/parse. BLMs add 1 point of INT for what like 5-7 damage? But they still go and add it where they can.

As WHM I want to do what I can to raise my HP-returned-for-MP-spent parse.. or whatever.

Capping healing magic, adding MND, etc., will raise your Cure5s nicely up over 800 (I don't wanna hear about obi/temenos #'s). If a WHM doesn't care that his/her Cure5 will never top 780, does that mean if they play Nin they wouldn't try to get their Jin's over 1k? If you don't geek out a little bit by improving the results of your spells, then why are you a mage?

There is also that whole thing about cursna working better on doom with capped healing but no one goes to U range anymore so that's a moot point. And some stuff like spell interrupt etc.

[gandorf]

The way I look at it is, Cure 5 is our Jin/Thun4/Barrage/Rampage etc.

Melee are constantly pimping and +1'ing for every extra damage point to raise their DPS/parse. BLMs add 1 point of INT for what like 5-7 damage? But they still go and add it where they can.

As WHM I want to do what I can to raise my HP-returned-for-MP-spent parse.. or whatever.

Capping healing magic, adding MND, etc., will raise your Cure5s nicely up over 800 (I don't wanna hear about obi/temenos #'s). If a WHM doesn't care that his/her Cure5 will never top 780, does that mean if they play Nin they wouldn't try to get their Jin's over 1k? If you don't geek out a little bit by improving the results of your spells, then why are you a mage?

There is also that whole thing about cursna working better on doom with capped healing but no one goes to U range anymore so that's a moot point. And some stuff like spell interrupt etc.

I was just about to respond why i said if you think healing magic is most useless skill in game your an idiot. But guy above me pretty much hit the bulls eye why it is important.

[Jeryhn]

The way I look at it is, Cure 5 is our Jin/Thun4/Barrage/Rampage etc.

Melee are constantly pimping and +1'ing for every extra damage point to raise their DPS/parse. BLMs add 1 point of INT for what like 5-7 damage? But they still go and add it where they can.

As WHM I want to do what I can to raise my HP-returned-for-MP-spent parse.. or whatever.

Capping healing magic, adding MND, etc., will raise your Cure5s nicely up over 800 (I don't wanna hear about obi/temenos #'s). If a WHM doesn't care that his/her Cure5 will never top 780, does that mean if they play Nin they wouldn't try to get their Jin's over 1k? If you don't geek out a little bit by improving the results of your spells, then why are you a mage?

There is also that whole thing about cursna working better on doom with capped healing but no one goes to U range anymore so that's a moot point. And some stuff like spell interrupt etc.

Pretty much nailed it on the head.

I also never found an RDM's Divine skill useless, casting Banish on undead mobs in KRT or the Mire for the additional effect helps a lot.

Also a protip: I wouldn't put too much stock into the words of soemone who tells other people not to "half-ass" their jobs, while at the same time tell people not to level Healing or String skill, or to merit Protectra 5 just for the sake of having Protectra 5. Sends a mixed message.

[Fng]

My healing skill is still uncapped. Not going to spend hours casting reraise so i can cure an extra 5 HP.

If you don't geek out a little bit by improving the results of your spells, then why are you a mage?

because BSTaru's sure do have a lot of fun at camps.

[Septimus]

My rampages still do 400 damage. Not going to spend hours making gil so i can buy a Haubergeon.

Noticed something a bit off...

[Fng]

My rampages could do 2000 still wouldnt get me in a party / alliance or anything else.

[Jeryhn]

My healing skill is still uncapped. Not going to spend hours casting reraise so i can cure an extra 5 HP.

Besieged > General Zazarg > Cure 1 macro.

Have fun.

[Sylphet]

The way I look at it is, Cure 5 is our Jin/Thun4/Barrage/Rampage etc.

Melee are constantly pimping and +1'ing for every extra damage point to raise their DPS/parse. BLMs add 1 point of INT for what like 5-7 damage? But they still go and add it where they can.

As WHM I want to do what I can to raise my HP-returned-for-MP-spent parse.. or whatever.

Capping healing magic, adding MND, etc., will raise your Cure5s nicely up over 800 (I don't wanna hear about obi/temenos #'s). If a WHM doesn't care that his/her Cure5 will never top 780, does that mean if they play Nin they wouldn't try to get their Jin's over 1k? If you don't geek out a little bit by improving the results of your spells, then why are you a mage?

There is also that whole thing about cursna working better on doom with capped healing but no one goes to U range anymore so that's a moot point. And some stuff like spell interrupt etc.

Totally is.

860 and climbing.. I think with some more gear/merits I could break 875-880 but that's including things like marduk's crackows that you can't just up and get.

[Fng]

I get to play about 4 hours on weekdays and 10 hours over the weekend.


I am busy trying make money, more merits, help friends, then spend an hour in lag filled besieged (if I can even get into the zone) to skill up healing magic. Please god someone come take my WHM spot in the ally.

In our LS, we lack people that want to camp as WHM. So guess where I am? I will gladly come as BRD over WHM any day of the week. Guess how many times this quarter I have been able to attend as something other than with my gimpy under healing skilled WHM?

[Aerides]

Yeah yeah, we all get bored of WHM, and we're all booked a crapton of hours every week just for events. But I don't translate that to a reason to defend non-leveled skills as useless just because they suck to cap.

Actually I got more bored with WHM after I did cap. Less incentive to keep a PLD alive if there's no chance of a skill up..... (i kid)

Sure, 10 points of healing is nothing like 10 pts of elemental, and no HNM shell is going to really care or know if you're capped or not. But it's still a small modifier.

[Tyche]

Barspell merits, for well over a year now (back when everyone said I was crazy for meriting barspells)
My whm was built up to be barspells cause my whm was only used for one thing, tank party whm for elemental damaging HNMs. (Grand Wyrms and such) I was treated as a "specialty case" for doing so.

man, how times have changed.

Regen merits pale in comparison to a full barspell merits whm vs almost any HNM, almost every single HNM has some kinda elemental attacks, and often are all the same element.

If all you do is exp and merit, then yeah, maybe regen is better for you.

You can prolly go back to a year or so ago on the WHM forums where everyone said i was so noobie for meritting barspells. It was like every WHM trashing me If it were restricted to one merit cap in group 1, id merit barspells, even over cure cast time. Strait 9% magic damage mitigation is insane.

[Zhais]

860 and climbing.. I think with some more gear/merits I could break 875-880 but that's including things like marduk's crackows that you can't just up and get.

Elvaan?

[Sylphet]

860 and climbing.. I think with some more gear/merits I could break 875-880 but that's including things like marduk's crackows that you can't just up and get.

Elvaan?

yep!
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...HNMWHMgear.jpg

[Gregorio]

If you think healing magic is useless then your an idiot.

If you think spamming Cure 1 on a general in besieged for 10 hours is worth the extra 3 HP on a Cure 5 then you are an idiot.

And my C5s consistantly go for well over 800 with about 30 levels of healing magic skill to go. I'm in no hurry to cap it either.

[Vail]

You can prolly go back to a year or so ago on the WHM forums where everyone said i was so noobie for meritting barspells. It was like every WHM trashing me If it were restricted to one merit cap in group 1, id merit barspells, even over cure cast time. Strait 9% magic damage mitigation is insane.

I remember that, I wasn't really posting much on KI then, but I kept remembering all those people trashing on barspells and how short sighted they where

I still haven't capped tier I whm, I'm sitting at 5 barspell, 1 cure cast, 2 regen

[Scythiroth]

yep!
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...HNMWHMgear.jpg

Blessed Spats? o.o I would so .dat swap to those if I ever finish WHM.