Octave club

[Julian]

Honestly I don't get what's so great about colibris lol

Pros: Low HP,

Arguable, personally they feel like they take a lot longer to die.

low DEF,

Again, arguable by my last point.

low EVA,

Not really.. I usually have to sing madrigal to make up for melees missing food.

easy to land spells on,

What spells? Freaking mirror crap is gay -_-

no dangerous TP moves,

Merit mobs don't really have dangerous moves, and of the "dangerous" ones, I'd put pecking flurry (or w/e it's called) at about same strength.

non-aggro,

Why does aggro matter if they get pulled on pop?

short repop times,

All out-door mobs have short repop timers

and plenty of them.

Any camp you have for yourself has enough mobs to keep a chain going

Cons: Link (but easily slept, and no risk of links once you are claiming on pop),

Linking isn't a huge issue, but loss of being able to use horde lullaby is gay. Especially since I chose not to merit lullaby timer.

Feather Tickle (Deal with it),

I'm not a melee so I don't really pay attention, maybe this thing is why they feel like they take longer to kill -_-

steal food (Get a better tank, use cheaper food, or gear appropriately for a no-food PT)

People in that camp don't use food anyway, another reason why these take longer to kill than other mobs.

All this, for 20-50 exp less per mob, that I can kill faster elsewhere. Yeah, I think I'll pass =)

With all the hype though, I guess it's a pretty good camp for other setups, so suit yourselves and enjoy your camp, while I enjoy mine.

[mikazuki]

attacks up to the highest even integer (limited to 8), that is a denominator of an even level.

if you had 64/8, the 8 is the denominator.
what is currently on wiki is easier to understand for most people though.

[DreizehnOfSiren]

i called it <.<

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/viewto ... c&start=30

about half way down <.<

[inafume]

Tell your melees to get better gear if they need madrigal to hit Greater Colibri without lolsushi.

Seriously.

[Yutuyu]

Proof that .9999~ = 1. (~ denote repeating)

Assume .9999~ is not equal to 1.

Then 1 > .9999~.

Then there must be some non-zero number a, such that .9999~ + a = 1.

By decimal expansion, .9999~ is the infinite sum of .9*10^-n from 1 to infinity. Thus...

a = 1 - (9*10^-1 + 9*10^-2 + .... + 9*10^-infinity)

And thus a is not a number, since it is an infinite sum. Therefore we have a contradiction, and....

Therefore 1 = .9999~

[TB]

Honestly I don't get what's so great about colibris lol

Pros: Low HP,

Arguable, personally they feel like they take a lot longer to die.

20-25 seconds is not long for me.

[Spungy]

So if you are a DRK75 you can gold pass another account and level that to WHM72, wait a month or whatever and get your guide and scout berets. Then the WHM72 can cap the DRK to 72 right before Blood Weapon+Kraken and release right afterwords back to 75.

[Vobent]

It doesn't work after level 50.

[Starr]

They only work up to 50 lol, I think this is well worth levelling DRK to 72 for though.

[Matricide]

no adaberk drks swinging away

[Appie]

The exp can be good.

I Just.
Fucking.
Hate.
Colibri.

AMEN!

[Dense]

Are you DENSE.

As a matter of fact...

[Vedder]

A bunch of opinions.

You are absolutely right... stay the fuck away from that camp at all costs!!!!!!!!!!

[Julian]

Tell your melees to get better gear if they need madrigal to hit Greater Colibri without lolsushi.

Seriously.

Trust me, my melees have better gear than you :wink:

And 80% accuracy w/o food or madrigal < 95% accuracy w/ madrigal

A bunch of opinions.

You are absolutely right... stay the fuck away from that camp at all costs!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, trust me I will.

I much enjoy making my 24k/hour painlessly isntead of stabbing my eyes out doing like 18-20k on colibris.

[Nagamaki]

I hope all this is posturing to keep other out, and people aren't actually retarded enough to think 24k/hour or more on colibris is impossible, or in fact even vaguely hard to achieve.

Because if its not posturing... just fucking wow.

[laverna]

Honestly I don't get what's so great about colibris lol

Pros: Low HP,

Arguable, personally they feel like they take a lot longer to die.

[quote:44479]low DEF,

Again, arguable by my last point.

low EVA,

Not really.. I usually have to sing madrigal to make up for melees missing food.

easy to land spells on,

What spells? Freaking mirror crap is gay -_-

no dangerous TP moves,

Merit mobs don't really have dangerous moves, and of the "dangerous" ones, I'd put pecking flurry (or w/e it's called) at about same strength.

non-aggro,

Why does aggro matter if they get pulled on pop?

short repop times,

All out-door mobs have short repop timers

and plenty of them.

Any camp you have for yourself has enough mobs to keep a chain going

Cons: Link (but easily slept, and no risk of links once you are claiming on pop),

Linking isn't a huge issue, but loss of being able to use horde lullaby is gay. Especially since I chose not to merit lullaby timer.

Feather Tickle (Deal with it),

I'm not a melee so I don't really pay attention, maybe this thing is why they feel like they take longer to kill -_-

steal food (Get a better tank, use cheaper food, or gear appropriately for a no-food PT)

All this stuff is state as
People in that camp don't use food anyway, another reason why these take longer to kill than other mobs.

All this, for 20-50 exp less per mob, that I can kill faster elsewhere. Yeah, I think I'll pass =)

With all the hype though, I guess it's a pretty good camp for other setups, so suit yourselves and enjoy your camp, while I enjoy mine.[/quote:44479]

All the Arguable stuff you have listed is not. Its based of average def from other merit mobs. Those numbers are solid. So useing other merit mobs as the comparsion you will se the mammol mobs have much more evasion HP and harder hiting TP moves. Main reason Some dont't like to exp on the birds is becuase you dont always see the leet Ramape damage becuase of stolen food. Though the Exp/hr is same. You may not have noticed these things before becuase you did say you are not a melee.

[jrmafiaghost]

Why are you melees using no food at all?

use a cheap fucking attack food for fucks sake

[Appie]

Well my opinion is mostly based on the fact I don't want much more merits since I stopped caring about merits when I capped my MNK shortly after category 2 was added for job specific. And Colibri are simply annoying, I avoided Mire too back in the day (still exp'd there if the PT wanted that, same for Colibri), but if I have a say in it, I won't chose for the annoying tp move camps (Colibri and Imps), I'd rather have some fun with lower exp/hour instead then.

But for people who want to get some fast merits, yeah go to Colibris and suck up the food stealing and tp reset, more chances for me that the other camps are free =D

[Vedder]

I hope all this is posturing to keep other out, and people aren't actually retarded enough to think 24k/hour or more on colibris is impossible, or in fact even vaguely hard to achieve.

Because if its not posturing... just fucking wow.

Absolute Truth.

The only thing is that now that the place crawls with nublets, it's harder to get 24k/hr on Colibri.

But I think it was Xavier that said something along the lines of "It's the god-given right of a superior party to take over a camp and push weaker parties out" ... so if there's a PLD/WAR, DDx2, WHM, RDM, BLM party out there XPing, just take all their mobs.

[Plow]

"It's the god-given right of a superior party to take over a camp and push weaker parties out" ... so if there's a PLD/WAR, DDx2, WHM, RDM, BLM party out there XPing, just take all their mobs.

This attitude is the source of pretty much all problems in the world today, and the failure to predict said attitude is why so many things in ffxi have failed on such a massive level.