Intimidate / Killer Effects affect on TP moves

[Sargas]

and amnesia.

if you get amnesia while readying a weaponskill it won't stop it like stun/terror/sleep. you just can't use any JA while under the influence of the effect.

That's because players don't have charging times for WSs, unlike mobs. But I guess in the end its purely academical since we can't amnesia the mobs to find out if their TP move would finish going off or not.

We do it's just really short... I've definitely had WSs stunned after seeing "Shadida readies Sidewnder" or whatever.

Well, not really enough to see if the amnesia happened before or after the "readies WS". Not like being able to test on a goblin bomb toss, or something.

Bit of a necro post here, but I had an inadvertant chance to test this today.

I was killing time in Aydeewa while doing the CS promotion quest by sending slimes against the qiqirn there. A qiqirn used Kibosh (the amnesia move) while my slime was charging Fluid Toss, and the slime wasn't able to finish the move, as if it had been stunned.

No screenshots unfortunately because I'm on PS2, but it's proof enough to me that amnesia will stop TP moves. Not that we can take advantage of this anyway, but it's still good to know.

[deivi]

I know we're talking about player WS being stopped by intimidation but it can stop a mob TP move, dunno why it would be diff for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ts/golemNM.jpg

[Credos]

I know we're talking about player WS being stopped by intimidation but it can stop a mob TP move, dunno why it would be diff for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ts/golemNM.jpg

I've seen this before as well, this weekend while fighting Kirin he was readying a Deadly hold but was intimidated.

[safer]

similar thing that might have occured in the paralyze thread... showing the whole chatlog without filters would help, but how sure are you that a normal attack wasnt intimidated, instead of his TP move....

as for kirin, same thing.. was he being kited? maybe the kiter was too far away and just a normal move was intimidated?

or maybe SE read about all the paralyze debates and realized they forgot to impliment that, so they ninja added it ;o

[SassiAsura]

I know we're talking about player WS being stopped by intimidation but it can stop a mob TP move, dunno why it would be diff for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ts/golemNM.jpg

I've seen this before as well, this weekend while fighting Kirin he was readying a Deadly hold but was intimidated.

I've intimidated Genbu while he was readying breath attack in the past. I had a SS to prove it. But lost it, so there.

[ringthree]

I know we're talking about player WS being stopped by intimidation but it can stop a mob TP move, dunno why it would be diff for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ts/golemNM.jpg

There is lag that could easily cause this, in fact, there are usually a couple of lines between "readies" and "uses" even with very fast actions. I don't think this is proof of anything but lag in your chat.

In fact, in your SS, you ready your WS, then it readies Heavy Strike, then it is intimidated, which would have had to have happened all before your WS landed. Which kind of proves my point about the chat log not really being useful in proving intimidation of a TP move.

[Gerion]

Also, I had an Imp interrupt Guillotine once with Amnesia. The message I got was (no filters):

The Heraldic Imp readies Abrasive Tantara.
Gerion readies Guillotine.
The Heraldic Imp uses Abrasive Tantara.
Gerion recieves the effect of amnesia.
You are unable to use the WS. (or some message to that effect).

[deivi]

I know we're talking about player WS being stopped by intimidation but it can stop a mob TP move, dunno why it would be diff for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ts/golemNM.jpg

There is lag that could easily cause this, in fact, there are usually a couple of lines between "readies" and "uses" even with very fast actions. I don't think this is proof of anything but lag in your chat.

I wish i had the whole log to show, but the ss was taken long ago when DRK/THFs still xp'd on golems. I distinctly remember ulli -not- doing heavy strike after readying it and being intimidated (was the reason I took the ss). I guess Ill go h2h some too weak weapons or Zi'tah golems and see if I can reproduce it

[Tomodachi]

No pics, but yea you can intimidate mobs WS seen it a billion times D;, never had mine intimindated so maybe it's just swapped up like that ;o, im not complainin tho

[Wizerd]

I know we're talking about player WS being stopped by intimidation but it can stop a mob TP move, dunno why it would be diff for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ts/golemNM.jpg

There is lag that could easily cause this, in fact, there are usually a couple of lines between "readies" and "uses" even with very fast actions. I don't think this is proof of anything but lag in your chat.

In fact, in your SS, you ready your WS, then it readies Heavy Strike, then it is intimidated, which would have had to have happened all before your WS landed. Which kind of proves my point about the chat log not really being useful in proving intimidation of a TP move.

Actually, when something is intimidated it shows in the log as soon as the intimidation kicks in.

Take magic for example, if you cast Dia on Gration and he intimidates it, you see the message right as your casting bar stops or whatever. It doesn't wait the usual 2-3 seconds to the "would be" time of it showing "Player casts Dia. Gration receives the effect of Dia" etc.

Either way though, I'm not an expert but I've definitely seen instances where the mob swung at me while it was still doing the animation for the TP move. And the log looked like this:

The Sand Lizard readies Baleful Gaze.
The Sand Lizard misses Wizerd.
The Sand Lizard uses Baleful Gaze.
Wizerd is petrified. <- now it'd look like Wizerd receives the effect of petrified, right?

Depending on chat filters, it might have just looked like the move was intimated, but since intimidation isn't that common, it's hard to test.

[ringthree]

I know we're talking about player WS being stopped by intimidation but it can stop a mob TP move, dunno why it would be diff for us.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ts/golemNM.jpg

There is lag that could easily cause this, in fact, there are usually a couple of lines between "readies" and "uses" even with very fast actions. I don't think this is proof of anything but lag in your chat.

In fact, in your SS, you ready your WS, then it readies Heavy Strike, then it is intimidated, which would have had to have happened all before your WS landed. Which kind of proves my point about the chat log not really being useful in proving intimidation of a TP move.

Actually, when something is intimidated it shows in the log as soon as the intimidation kicks in.

But even in those cases when it is very fast it still wouldn't necessarily show correctly in the log. The log is not very accurate when it comes to the timing of abilities, casts, damage and effects, this can be seen over and over.

I agree with the rest, as you pointed out there are overlaps and discrepancies in the chat log even in non-lag situations.