k but dont try to make me see the light with your hunky manliness dr. brpOriginally Posted by BRP
k but dont try to make me see the light with your hunky manliness dr. brpOriginally Posted by BRP
they were at Matthew Shepard's funeral... and Mr. Rodgers
why mr.rodgers?!Originally Posted by Restrat
http://blacktable.com/daulerio030401.htm
Fun read, I live in a den of sin according to Phelps.![]()
The last picture of Phelps in that Black Table article reminds me of the tall man from Phantasm.
the song at the beginning made me stop watching......
people need to wake up... i mean seriously... protesting at soldiers' funerals? sure the war in Iraq is pointless... that doesnt mean the soldiers deaths are meaningless...
"Thank god for Dead Soldiers"? -_- ...
Hate the US for what it does? Leave? Afraid of "Fags roaming the streets"? leave
I'm not a Christian myself and i WILL NOT judge all christians from this family... this is taking the Bible WAY to far...
I mean "Homosexuality banned by the bible"? Oh so you're gonna do what the Bible says? I'm sorry... but from what i was told by a Teacher(who actually read the WHOLE bible) that supports Gay marriage: "The Bible also says Men and Women SHOULD NOT be equal"... hmm... if one is okay why shouldn't the others?
this family is the lowest of the low.... seriously...
those thoughts are really no different from the terrorist's(Nazis and w/e) thoughts...
exactly... this is to the FAAAAAR right... Close to(if not at) the Nazi'sThat's not conservative. That's extreme nut jobs.
/sigh... can't be helped... people like this will always exist.... >.>
(PS: this whole thread reminded me of southpark episodes xD)
For the past half hour, the only thing I can say is:
Hooooly fuuuucking shit..... hoooooly fucking shit......
I still can't believe there are people this fucked up in the world. Just....asDFKJSALFDKSQWERIZFdurrrrrrrrrrr......
2nd video, when the interviewer is talking to the daughters.
Interviewer: "So, do the other people at school like you?"
Them: "No"
Inter: "Why not?"
Them: "We don't know. We're nice... We tell them the message that they're going to hell"
These people haven't an ounce of logic, courtesy, respect, intelligence or foresight in their minds. I seriously think if someone were to kill them... the sentence they serve would be minimal at best. It would be a true service to mankind to rid them.
edit: FDAKDMFASF my god..... one of the older girls just spews off "You're going to hell" like its a common thing for her to say to anyone
Interview: "So, I'm going to hell?"
Her: "YUP! *childish giggle*"
so uh yeah how many fucks and how many ducks?
I dunno the exact verse so I'm not going to try and quote here but God takes vengence where he sees it fit because he is the judge of everyone, not us.Originally Posted by Kuya
A good example of this is when Jesus spoke to the people who were condemning the whore in the marketplace or w/e it was. He basically said, who here is perfect enough to be able to say what she's doing is so horrible? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Basically, putting the faith in God to make the ultimate decision and take vengence if he chooses is how a Christian should act.
The exact opposite is displayed by these people. By telling people they're going to Hell they're casting judgement, and that alone is a sin. Also, the adults in that family are bringing up their Children with perverted practices and even misleading them from God's word, so that too is a sin. The bible explicitly states the people who misguide children are unforgiveable because the Children are the most important thing to God, basically because until they can make their own decisions they are considered "saved" and devoid of sin. So by misleading them you are bringing them up and perverting their sense of right and wrong as it should be according to the bible, yadda yadda yadda.
That's it really. Is that enough lol?
I wonder if people read my posts and think, god what a religious sack of crap. When really, I'm not religious at all I just attended Church for most of my life until I realized almost all the churches I had been to/were going to were corrupt. Which is when I decided to cut myself off from the church totally and simply practice my worship of God in my own way while still remaining a non-denominational Christian. I guess I'm a liberal christian if there is such a thing.
I think Starship Troopers (the novel) did that whore stoning allegory better.
Jesus <=> Priest in it. After the end of the 'he who is without sin' gimmick, the priest picks up a stone and crushes her head. He says that, regardless of all of us sinning, the laws of the land must be upheld when sins besmirching it come to light.
More powerful message in my opinion.
Back on topic, that lady is psycho.
2 fucks tons of ducksOriginally Posted by Jicent
some notes people have been um.. misunderstood on or something
By fags they don't necessarily mean gay people. At the very start she explains that she considers anyone that has any kind of sexual contact with anyone or anything of any form outside married in bed sex they're a fag yada yada.
In virtually any form of the Christian religion worshipping the flag is totally not acceptable. It is a representative and nothing more, and the nation behind it is not to be worshipped either. And don't even think about "pride," one of the most evil aspects of humankind (according to Christianity).
"Wishing vengeance" on someone is, once again, not acceptable. Christianity's good side is completely defined by the belief that you should wish that person would atone for their sins and become a good person, not that they would continue down their path and suffer a terrible fate. Turn the other cheek, do unto others, spread the word with joy, yada yada yada.
Fucking Kansas. Thank God these people are not *that* hard to avoid.
oh and I almost forgot
http://www.eveningservice.com/Video
That's not necessarily what that Bible verse means dude. The very whackjobs we're talking about are using their literal translations of the Bible to say and do stupid shit.Originally Posted by Maguspk
I'm not going to get into a religious debate because it's stupid and I have better things to do, but you're conveniently forgetting that you shouldn't cast stones unless you're free of sin. And you're forgetting the whole message about forgiveness. The Bible constantly contradicts itself so it's stupid to use it as a basis for an argument. And that's why these Kansas people are fucking tools.
I always thought we would of been better off is Heresy was extended to anyone saying what The Bible says.
I have always felt pulling the "this is what God says" card to be kind of wrong but I never felt bad directing someone to a part of The Bible they could read on their own.
[quote=Norelco][quote=Maguspk][quote=Kuya][quote=Maguspk][quote=Norelco]Who the fuck worships the flag anyway? You make it sound like it's such a horrible thing that Christianity doesn't allow worshiping anything besides God. Also, if you're just talking about adhereing to your country's laws and respecting them, then please read some Aquinas or the Bible itself. Both give fairly good Christian perspectives on how a person should interact with their government. The Bible explicitly states you should obey your government and be subserviant to it.Originally Posted by Saphirea":e7ce0]As former military and a devout catholic ... I really do hope god does strike true vengeance on this family.[/quote]
Saph, a true devout Cathloic/Christian would never wish vengeance upon anyone. :D[/quote]
Wrong, choosing not to take revenge into your own hands and putting the faith in God to cast judgement and vengence is exactly how a good Christian should act.[/quote]
wait, wut?[/quote]
I dunno the exact verse so I'm not going to try and quote here but God takes vengence where he sees it fit because he is the judge of everyone, not us.
A good example of this is when Jesus spoke to the people who were condemning the whore in the marketplace or w/e it was. He basically said, who here is perfect enough to be able to say what she's doing is so horrible? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Basically, putting the faith in God to make the ultimate decision and take vengence if he [i]chooses[/i] is how a Christian should act.
The exact opposite is displayed by these people. By telling people they're going to Hell they're casting judgement, and that alone is a sin. Also, the adults in that family are bringing up their Children with perverted practices and even misleading them from God's word, so that too is a sin. The bible explicitly states the people who misguide children are unforgiveable because the Children are the most important thing to God, basically because until they can make their own decisions they are considered "saved" and devoid of sin. So by misleading them you are bringing them up and perverting their sense of right and wrong as it should be according to the bible, yadda yadda yadda.
That's it really. Is that enough lol?
I wonder if people read my posts and think, god what a religious sack of crap. When really, I'm not religious at all I just attended Church for most of my life until I realized almost all the churches I had been to/were going to were corrupt. Which is when I decided to cut myself off from the church totally and simply practice my worship of God in my own way while still remaining a non-denominational Christian. I guess I'm a liberal christian if there is such a thing.[/quote]
That's not necessarily what that Bible verse means dude. The very whackjobs we're talking about are using their literal translations of the Bible to say and do stupid shit.
I'm not going to get into a religious debate because it's stupid and I have better things to do, but you're conveniently forgetting that you shouldn't cast stones unless you're free of sin. And you're forgetting the whole message about forgiveness. The Bible constantly contradicts itself so it's stupid to use it as a basis for an argument. And that's why these Kansas people are fucking tools.[/quote:e7ce0]
Did you even read what I posted? You're an idiot.
[quote=Plow][quote=Jicent]so uh yeah how many fucks and how many ducks?[/quote]
2 fucks tons of ducks
some notes people have been um.. misunderstood on or something
By fags they don't necessarily mean gay people. At the very start she explains that she considers anyone that has any kind of sexual contact with anyone or anything of any form outside married in bed sex they're a fag yada yada.
[b]In virtually any form of the Christian religion worshipping the flag is totally not acceptable. It is a representative and nothing more, and the nation behind it is not to be worshipped either. And don't even think about "pride," one of the most evil aspects of humankind (according to Christianity).[/b]
[b]"Wishing vengeance" on someone is, once again, not acceptable. Christianity's good side is completely defined by the belief that you should wish that person would atone for their sins and become a good person, not that they would continue down their path and suffer a terrible fate. Turn the other cheek, do unto others, spread the word with joy, yada yada yada.[/b]
Fucking Kansas. Thank God these people are not *that* hard to avoid.
oh and I almost forgot
[url="http://www.eveningservice.com/Video
Also, never did I or anyone else say that wishing vengence on someone is a Christian attitude. Putting faith in God to decide the person's fate and then cast HIS judgement is what a "good Christian" would do. Whether it be the person turning from their past ways and atoning for their sin or staying the same way.
If you were simply backing up my argument for how God is the only one who should be saying people are going to hell or casting judgement on them then ok, gj but your post came off kind of contradicting mine for some reason I dunno. So if you were, nvm lol.
I think I'm going to throw up... I'm on the third part where the kid says America is fags... I just... Don't know what this world has come to at this point! I feel bad. They are making good Americans look like shit. I feel fucking embarrassed to be in the same Country with them! Seriously! God is accepting and forgiving! Not a person that excludes people! Ugh! BRB Watching more hopefully I won't fucking puke!
i thought the Bush family was the most hated in America
yea, *was*, until this cult...family, came along.Originally Posted by Xiona
I mean, never mind that the US military is what affords these clowns the right to spew that bullshit with impunity, right? Never mind that those soldiers whose funerals they are picketing, and the soldiers who died in every American war paid with their blood for these people to have the right to say whatever they want without getting shot. It's also disgusting that they are forcing this bullshit down those kids throats and turning them into hate-mongers as well.
Edit: Realization: They don't really believe that those soldiers whose funerals they are picketing are at fault. They have found the most crass and disgusting, attention-garnering method of stomping up and down on a sensitive exposed nerve in America right now, with the political climate as it is regarding the war. That's all they are doing with their bullshit, getting attention for their church.
Because Mr. Rodgers told kids that they are special the way that are, as opposed to telling kids that they were going to burn in hell for being gay.Originally Posted by Axil
I am stunned that 95% of the people in this thread seem to have no clue who Fred Phelps is. It's strange that people had absolutely no problem (to the point where some people thought it was funny) when his family was picketing Matthew Shepard's funeral or the funeral of any gay person they could find, but now that they are picketing solders it's an atrocity and everyone must hear about it.
Because 95% of the people on this board were probably less than 12 years of age when the whole Matthew Shepard thing happened. What would they give a shit about this stuff at that age?Originally Posted by Septimus