Another annoying WAR question PCC vs temp torque vs soil

[khaine]

just like the subject says, which do ppl think would better benefit TP gearing, and which for rampage?

Our thoughts were mainly between soil and TT for rampage, and TT for TP gearup.

Assume build is axe/axe. She(wife) has joy also, not ridill ; ;

[Naver]

Mixed weapons (Axe|Sword) go with Peacock Charm for TP.
Dual Axes go with Temp. Torque for TP.

I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that after 200 skill, every 1skill you get is .9acc and .9atk so Temp. Torque would be 6.3acc and 6.3atk. For Dual Axes, I wouldn't mind losing 3.7 acc to gain 6.3atk.

I have mixed feelings about sea gorgets, but most here on these forums will swear up and down that they are great. Personally though I've had better results with PCC or Temp. Torque on Rampage. Of course depending on what food you use, you might want to change up your selection.

[Tiernin]

Gorget is the best piece for WS.

[Rasengan]

For Axe/Axe, I'd have to go with Temperance torque full-time. Gorget is sex for 1hit WS, but for multihit WS with 2 of the same weapons, I'd say torque > gorget. If it were Axe/Sword though, I'd go with PCC for TP and Soil gorget for WS.

[Evelyn]

As Rasengan has said, I don't see the benefit of going soil for a multi-hit WS too much. I personally don't have a PCC yet so I go with a chiv chain for my axe/joy setup, so I sub the Soil gorget in anyway. However when I get a PCC I'm seriously debating leaving the gorget at home.

[catzie]

Pretty sure gorget is better for axe/axe ws and torque for tp

not sure about axe/sword never did it myself

[Naver]

On the topic of gorgets though, is this all official then? Based on the plethora of test results Naga provided in this thread, it would seem the sea gorgets do almost nothing worthwhile for multi-hit weapon skills. Albeit the difference is incredibly small in the long run, but the difference is still there... And evidence is in favor of it being a mediocre neck choice at best for multi-hits, at least if I'm understanding it all correctly.

Quote came from this thread from the Advanced Discussion. The "dex/crit relation, WS crits, WS gorgets discussion" thread. If I'm understanding that quote and thread in it's entirety, then multi-hit WS do not get the bonus of the gorget on all hits. Furthermore proving to myself why I did better with Temp. Torque and Peacock Charm on Rampage dmg. Single hit WS on the other hand, will probably benefit more from sea gorgets than Peacock or Sea Torques.

[DrObvious]

Read again more carefully then.

Here's some results on my damage tests comparing Soil Gorget and Faith Torque for Asuran Fists, and also comparing those numbers with the numbers I would get through direct use of the damage formula. Originally my goal was to test every possible effect (mainly the pdif and accuracy) but I quickly realized accuracy tests wouldn't work in that setting, my acc was just too high for any meaningful differences to be detectable. I tried using the same mobs while killing off my acc on purpose, but that made the fights slow and annoying, and getting good accuracy data takes a really big sample, which I was clearly not going to have the patience to get, so I stuck to the test with capped acc. I have some ideas for acc tests, it'll just take awhile. In other words, none of the results here say anything at all about what gorgets do for acc on multihit WS, which is obviously the key to their usefulness with them.

People always threw around +10% acc from gorgets, if it really gives such a huge bonus on every hit of the ws I'd say it's very important, especially if you use meat over sushi.

[Gerion]

From my own tests on gorgets, the accuracy can't be any higher than 10 accuracy , plus or minus 5, based on comparing WS hit rate to melee hit rate in Mire.

[Keno]

Mixed weapons (Axe|Sword) go with Peacock Charm for TP.
Dual Axes go with Temp. Torque for TP.

I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that after 200 skill, every 1skill you get is .9acc and .9atk so Temp. Torque would be 6.3acc and 6.3atk. For Dual Axes, I wouldn't mind losing 3.7 acc to gain 6.3atk.

I have mixed feelings about sea gorgets, but most here on these forums will swear up and down that they are great. Personally though I've had better results with PCC or Temp. Torque on Rampage. Of course depending on what food you use, you might want to change up your selection.

I believe actually for every one skill above 200 its .9 acc but still 1 full attack.