Your education level.

[divisortheory]

I bet I could pull off just about any basic task using any language or technology THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME within 24 hours if needed.

Using C++, C, or C# write two windows programs, defined as follows:

Program #1 - Displays a popup window that says "Hello world"

Program #2 - A windows service that has two pieces of information hardcoded into it:
1) The path to an executable file on your hard drive.
2) The name of a local user on the machine that the program is running.

The windows service should launch program #1 under user account #2, and you should see the "Hello world" message on your screen.

[Kuya]

Nothing is going to teach you how to do something difficult in 24 hours man so I still disagree. I could learn anything difficult given enough time with Google..

Last week I learned how to encode/decode Intel's mod r/m bytes and that only took 2 days thanks to Google. Any other source would of took much much longer.. I imagine traveling to BFE and taking a class from Intel would of took much longer .

You're basicaly just argueng self-teaching vs profesional teaching. Yea, google can help ya do these things, but you'l never be as good as someone, who not only uses google, but actually took courses at a good college. In other words, the guy who took these courses is better than you, and will get the job over you, you might be mediocre at best.

[Devek]

Nothing is going to teach you how to do something difficult in 24 hours man so I still disagree. I could learn anything difficult given enough time with Google..

Last week I learned how to encode/decode Intel's mod r/m bytes and that only took 2 days thanks to Google. Any other source would of took much much longer.. I imagine traveling to BFE and taking a class from Intel would of took much longer .

It was only easy because someone pre-digested the information and posted it on google for you. What do you do when you are presented raw information that doesn't have a digested/how-to'd form on google?

Than I start making my own tools to process the data using techniques I learned off Google

The data wasn't written in a howto.. the raw information called "Intel Architecture Software Developer's Manual" was in Google so I wrote a quick tool to be able to experiment with the different variations in machine code and see what happens... thanks to it I either know or am in the position to figure out everything there is to know about the x86 instruction set which will allow me to do some neat stuff in a different project I am working on.

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/2...apshot1gt8.png

[Jefe]

I bet I could pull off just about any basic task using any language or technology THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO ME within 24 hours if needed.

Using C++, C, or C# write two windows programs, defined as follows:

Program #1 - Displays a popup window that says "Hello world"

Program #2 - A windows service that has two pieces of information hardcoded into it:
1) The path to an executable file on your hard drive.
2) The name of a local user on the machine that the program is running.

The windows service should launch program #1 under user account #2, and you should see the "Hello world" message on your screen.

Woot I did this shit a long time ago lol, but I'll pass on the challenge that it wasn't for me, sir.

[miokomioko]

This is all irrelevant when you sit down for an interview and you don't get to 'google' up anything they ask you. Good luck.

[divisortheory]

Woot I did this shit a long time ago lol, but I'll pass on the challenge that it wasn't for me, sir.

Are you sure you did it exactly as described?

[Jefe]

This is all irrelevant when you sit down for an interview and you don't get to 'google' up anything they ask you. Good luck.

What if they have an "interview couch?"

Yes, google like our local libraries can expand one's intellect, but no matter what you do, unless you are some genius John Doe that can pull off all sorts of data out of his ass, you need a degree.

[Jefe]

Woot I did this shit a long time ago lol, but I'll pass on the challenge that it wasn't for me, sir.

Are you sure you did it exactly as described?

^Shit, is missing the #2 of the second program. Total fail, where's a burger king, anyone? ;(

*Woot, double post, I'm eating ; ;

[Devek]

Using C++, C, or C# write two windows programs, defined as follows:

Program #1 - Displays a popup window that says "Hello world"

Program #2 - A windows service that has two pieces of information hardcoded into it:
1) The path to an executable file on your hard drive.
2) The name of a local user on the machine that the program is running.

The windows service should launch program #1 under user account #2, and you should see the "Hello world" message on your screen.

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/5...hot2zo0.th.png

Been a few years since I touched win32, but this should be fun

[aurik]

Nothing is going to teach you how to do something difficult in 24 hours man so I still disagree. I could learn anything difficult given enough time with Google..

Last week I learned how to encode/decode Intel's mod r/m bytes and that only took 2 days thanks to Google. Any other source would of took much much longer.. I imagine traveling to BFE and taking a class from Intel would of took much longer .

It was only easy because someone pre-digested the information and posted it on google for you. What do you do when you are presented raw information that doesn't have a digested/how-to'd form on google?

Than I start making my own tools to process the data using techniques I learned off Google

The data wasn't written in a howto.. the raw information called "Intel Architecture Software Developer's Manual" was in Google so I wrote a quick tool to be able to experiment with the different variations in machine code and see what happens... thanks to it I either know or am in the position to figure out everything there is to know about the x86 instruction set which will allow me to do some neat stuff in a different project I am working on.

http://img486.imageshack.us/img486/2...apshot1gt8.png

WOW A DEBUGGER YOU'RE SO ELITE

You realize that dev manuals ARE essentially digested information?

[jerkbox]

devek's point is that the actual content you learn in college is all researchable on google, which is probably true... i dont think he's saying you can get a job as easy as someone who's received a degree.

getting a good job is all about networking and who you know anyway and then maybe experience/education.

[divisortheory]

Indeed. Good luck

devek's point is that the actual content you learn in college is all researchable on google, which is probably true... i dont think he's saying you can get a job as easy as someone who's received a degree.

If all you gain out of college is the actual content that was taught in the courses, you didn't gain very much out of college.

[aurik]

devek's point is that the actual content you learn in college is all researchable on google, which is probably true... i dont think he's saying you can get a job as easy as someone who's received a degree.

getting a good job is all about networking and who you know anyway and then maybe experience/education.

no, his point as he so eloquently stated in his post earlier is that if you can google you can do comp.eng.

[divisortheory]

no, his point as he so eloquently stated in his post earlier is that if you can google you can do comp.eng.

My sister is 15, she can google.

[aurik]

no, his point as he so eloquently stated in his post earlier is that if you can google you can do comp.eng.

My sister is 15, she can google.

Therefore she can handle a comp.eng job!

[Deuce]

Voted for HS even though I plan on going to college after next year. Ok I haven't finished HS yet, but come on Senior year is a joke amirite?

Edit: and too the topic of google being a good source of info. It really isn't you're better off reading books/textbooks. Also taking a course is far better because it helps you gain some experience through labs for science, projects and such. I doubt you're going to assign yourself any work. This kind of makes me wonder if someone could learn from google and just lie on a resume saying they went to some decent college and have a degree. Not really like they'll check. They pretty much just care if you can do the job effectively or not.

[miokomioko]

Voted for HS even though I plan on going to college after next year. Ok I haven't finished HS yet, but come on Senior year is a joke amirite?

I scraped rock bottom all through highschool because I was a slacker and was taking 8 classes and night school to graduate on time... so no, Senior year wasn't a joke for me. :(

[Deuce]

Voted for HS even though I plan on going to college after next year. Ok I haven't finished HS yet, but come on Senior year is a joke amirite?

I scraped rock bottom all through highschool because I was a slacker and was taking 8 classes and night school to graduate on time... so no, Senior year wasn't a joke for me.

Yeah I've heard about this too, but a lot of seniors I know say it's pretty lax, at least at my school. They still have work and what not, but not as much towards the end. Sadly I'll be taking 6 classes including an AP history and another history on top of that. Why the hell do I have to like history so much? Damnit.

[Vinen]

Degree in Comp Sci~ starting Masters in the fall.

[Eaglestrike]

High school was the last one I completed, though I guess according to the rules I have done around 2 years of college. Currently I'm not enrolled because I have no idea what I want to do.