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    Better idea, you study hard, pass your exams, then get drunk for 72hrs, then it's LJ time, k?

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    Deal.

    Minus the study part, I like being the asshole that doesn't study and still aces it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    Deal.

    Minus the study part, I like being the asshole that doesn't study and still aces it.
    I can't pull that off anymore Stupid college.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    Deal.

    Minus the study part, I like being the asshole that doesn't study and still aces it.
    \:D/

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    http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5...nebootsvx3.jpg

    Thanks BG, you have shown me the light. I can upgrade from being a wal-mart mnk to being a TJ Maxx mnk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mifaco
    http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/5...nebootsvx3.jpg

    Thanks BG, you have shown me the light. I can upgrade from being a wal-mart mnk to being a TJ Maxx mnk.
    You're probably at a JC Penny monk now. I think that's better then the shitty TJ Maxx mnks.

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    I only bothered get dune boot at 75 when i begin to put merit in kick.

    Once you done with kick merit, you can't imagine wear anything else in merit party at all

    Mnk a dot job and dune boot will make your dot rlly better than fuma or anything if you bother do kick merit.

    With the regular 2 brd 1 rdm 3 DD pty, i never get to go /war but only /nin (still going /war for dynamis and limbus :wink: ).

    So as mnk/nin, kick is my double attack who give me extra TP, kick merit with brutal is really very noticeable, and with haste +22% already and a march+ haste spell, i rlly swing fast and get TP nearly as fast as a axe/ridill war (martial art <3).

    The dune boot by themself are a crazy weapon, dmg +30 is just O_O, and when you crit for more than 210+ dmg with a kick while destroyer can't break 200 dmg, trust me you happy to wear dune boot

    For ws, another story, if no rse like me as galka, well AF2 for extra dex or attack+ boot until a chance on salvage or Nyusle island feet equip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagamaki
    Dunes are best (aside from Usukane Sune-ate) in most situations because the haste does little when the mob dies in a few rounds, but there's some exaggeration as to the real damage ratio between using them and not using them is.

    Base HTH DMG with meritted skill is 35. With a Weapon Rank of 0, fSTR cap is 8 for an effective total of 43 base DMG when fSTR caps, max crit 129.

    The wiki says Dunes are DMG+30, but for them to actually behave like a HTH weapon for kicks, the DMG should actually be +27, which results in a weapon rank of 3, for a fSTR cap of 11. Effectively that means the base DMG including fSTR is the same, it just means you need more STR to cap the kick fSTR. I didn't actually test this, it wouldn't be all that hard to do though, just separate the kick mode number from the punch mode number against something where your punch fSTR isn't capped and see if the mode is +9 or +12 (compared to Destroyers, with relic it would be +4/+7).

    Anyway regardless of whether its +30 maintaning weapon rank 0 or +27 weapon rank 3, the effective total base DMG is 73 (35+8+30 or 35+11+27) for a max crit of 219.

    73/43 = 1.698

    So they provide a 70% damage increase to kicks, not double or triple. The only way you get to a ratio that drastic is when comparing the crit cap with non-crits, which isn't exactly fair accurate. The exact ratio will vary a little bit depending on fSTR, but its still not gonna be too far from that amount.



    While I understand that the math provides for a 70% increase in damage, I frequently swap between Dune Boots and Melee Boots as RK does, when I assume the role of tanking, etc (for the Counterstance buff on the melee gaiters), and I do notice the damage at least double. Now, without being to directly parse kicks, it's hard to really know for certain, but most of my kicks without Dune boots are pathetically low (30-40ish), and with Dune boots, I frequently have numbers above 100. This may simply be a result of only noticing the 100s and the 30-40s, but I do pay fairly strict attention to such things...

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    It isn't difficult to observe dunes doubling and sometimes tripling your kick damage.
    I can't say I know the math, but such a drastic change is easily noticable.
    Even if it has a limit on paper, it's obviously more powerful in practice.

    Incidentally, how exactly would dunes being an H2H weapon for kicks lower its added damage from 30 to 27?

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    so uuh, im thinking of leveling MNK.

    Do i use Dune Boots for WS? i'm Elvaan, previous posts stated change to RSE when WS, how about Elvaan ?

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    You could use Rasetsu Sune-Ate (Attack +5), Temple Gaiters (DEX+3), or Melee Gaiters (DEX+4).

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    I am currently leveling Monk (53 atm) and really loving it. Seeing I am Mithra, and not being able to find any good info about the lvl51 Kung Fu Shoes and lvl 66 Wulong Shoes, is it worth getting those 2? I know I am getting the Dune Boots, because I know those are really really good.

    I am using my RSE feet atm for the +3 STR, worth changing for the Kung Fu/Wulong Shoes?

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    Kung Fu/Wulong will likely do more for your damage over time than 3 strength, but I always thought that until you get your final Kick Attacks trait, kick boots weren't entirely worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obev
    Kung Fu/Wulong will likely do more for your damage over time than 3 strength, but I always thought that until you get your final Kick Attacks trait, kick boots weren't entirely worth it.
    Correct. If you wanna dump your cash into something, it should be fed kyahan until dunes.

    Dunes (wulong, etc.) do not affect weapon skills....no, not even Dragon Kick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obev
    Kung Fu/Wulong will likely do more for your damage over time than 3 strength, but I always thought that until you get your final Kick Attacks trait, kick boots weren't entirely worth it.
    Strike Subligar at 60 has changed that thought, IMO.

    Katsuoy:
    If you can get a Strike Subligar the Kick boots are definitely worth it, but even if you cannot, they are still at the top range of tp items. I used them both during my leveling, and simply switched to Federation Kyahan for WS.

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    i have to disagree Dense, before kick attack II lvl 71, you aint kick that much sadly, as i said in my post, i rlly begin to see dune boot shine when i was done with kick attack merit.

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    While we on Monk foot gear anyone figure out how exactly Melee Gaiters enchances counterstance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerz
    i have to disagree Dense, before kick attack II lvl 71, you aint kick that much sadly, as i said in my post, i rlly begin to see dune boot shine when i was done with kick attack merit.
    I just assumed that he was talking about before level 71, since after 70 there's a whole bunch of good equipment for monks to wear. 60-70 though, your choices are kick boots + strike subligar, federation kyahan + republic subligar, or "I'm elvaan, I'll wear pants, thanks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirrock
    Quote Originally Posted by tylerz
    i have to disagree Dense, before kick attack II lvl 71, you aint kick that much sadly, as i said in my post, i rlly begin to see dune boot shine when i was done with kick attack merit.
    I just assumed that he was talking about before level 71, since after 70 there's a whole bunch of good equipment for monks to wear. 60-70 though, your choices are kick boots + strike subligar, federation kyahan + republic subligar, or "I'm elvaan, I'll wear pants, thanks".
    I wholeheartedly agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirrock
    60-70 though, your choices are kick boots + strike subligar, federation kyahan + republic subligar, or "I'm elvaan, I'll wear pants, thanks".
    QFT

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