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    Quote Originally Posted by Ker View Post
    HanaSaku Iroha EP3 *Bondage and Yuri Fanservice*

    This was unbelievably silly. seriously. I couldn't stop laughing at how totally wacky this was. great episode for all the wrong reasons.
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    I still loved the episode. You figured something was going to happen with that novelist when he first met Ohana but I never imagined things to unfold the way they did in this episode. At least the series shows that the show is versatile instead of one constant depressing mood like AnoHana. And it goes onto show that Hanasaku Iroha won't be a slice-of-life by any measure.

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    Hanasaku EP3 was a lot worse than I anticipated. Most of it was forced plot, stupid out of place comedy, and the worst part, it made Ohana character sound extremely stupid... I hope the rest of the series will be more like the first two episodes and less like this one.

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    yeah, I gave hana 3 the skip around past retarded scenes and find myself only watching it for like 5 mins

    seriously, I'd watch JC Staff's shit if I wanna do that

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    I'm going to be interested in what other people say about it since it seems everyone loves it so far but it's split 50/50 by the last 4 posts. I'll admit, the bondage was unnecessary but you kinda assumed he was writing an erotic novel about Ohana.

    I actually liked what Nako did in that episode. She admited she's afraid of Ohana even though she really hasn't done anything scary except force her to eat food she doesn't like. It's nice to see she can do something useful and maybe that'll be the breakthrough to connecting better with Ohana. But I doubt we'll see much in the way of her swimming until she goes to school.

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    Blue Exorcist was great, but I can't take the main character for himself yet.

    I still want him to act like Accelerator.

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    I didn't like Nako in the first two episodes, and nothing changed in this one. That kind of character seem to be popular with the otaku crowd, but her behavior feel so artificial that I can't relate her at all. I've seen a lot of shy and reserved people in my life, and that's not how they act or talk. In another series, I would ignore her simply because of how common it is in anime to have that kind of character, but in a show that is suposed to be about character development and all, it's annoying to see something like this.

    Not being able to relate to the character was the main issue I had with the 3rd episode. In the first 2 episodes, I thought they were well written, particularly Ohana. In this one, all of them were forced. The whole bondage/rape part was already awkward, but her reaction to it made it even worse. I want the show to be about a normal kid who is going through rough time while doing her best to overcome the issue, she doesn't need to be a new mother Therasa or Jesus.

    Secondly, I'm just not buying her innocence toward everything. In the first two episodes, it made some sort of sense because she was avoiding people. But this? It's just too much, especially for someone that live in our society.

    Also, the conclusion of that episode was retarded. There shouldnt have been any ounce of sympathy for someone who did that to a kid. Saving his life..fine, but hiring him after? Wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    I didn't like Nako in the first two episodes, and nothing changed in this one. That kind of character seem to be popular with the otaku crowd, but her behavior feel so artificial that I can't relate her at all. I've seen a lot of shy and reserved people in my life, and that's not how they act or talk. In another series, I would ignore her simply because of how common it is in anime to have that kind of character, but in a show that is suposed to be about character development and all, it's annoying to see something like this.

    Not being able to relate to the character was the main issue I had with the 3rd episode. In the first 2 episodes, I thought they were well written, particularly Ohana. In this one, all of them were forced. The whole bondage/rape part was already awkward, but her reaction to it made it even worse. I want the show to be about a normal kid who is going through rough time while doing her best to overcome the issue, she doesn't need to be a new mother Therasa or Jesus.

    Secondly, I'm just not buying her innocence toward everything. In the first two episodes, it made some sort of sense because she was avoiding people. But this? It's just too much, especially for someone that live in our society.

    Also, the conclusion of that episode was retarded. There shouldnt have been any ounce of sympathy for someone who did that to a kid. Saving his life..fine, but hiring him after? Wtf?
    I don't see anything wrong with what Nako did in this episode. Sure, she's pretty annoying with that personality but that's how she's portrayed. It's one thing to be a shy and reserved person in real life and it's another to write a character for a show to be shy and reserved, which is why she behaves the way she does and talks the way she does. The fact that you know she's a shy and reserved person and that it annoys you is a good job on the writer for bringing you to have emotions that character (rather than in other series where you'd simply ignore them, a case of bad writing). And like you said, it's a show about character development, so eventually she will develop into a better character. In other anime, she wouldn't change at all but in this, you can garuntee she will become more open.

    I agree with you on the Ohana parts. The one thing I'll add is that Ohana's mother is an author, so she did take an interest in his work and wanted to help him (since I'm sure Ohana helped her mother, too). But yeah, it felt out of character for Ohana for most of the episode (the ending was fine).

    And if this were real life, the episode would've ended with the rapist/bondage author going to jail, the ryokan eating his month-long bill, and then probably closing.

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    I loved the Maria+holic humor, but I really do wish they'd continue from where they left off last season.

    Also, it seem like The World God Only Knows is picking up the pace compared to last season...hope they'd keep this pace because 4 episode of kanon last season was both unnecessary and rage inducing

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    And if this were real life, the episode would've ended with the rapist/bondage author going to jail, the ryokan eating his month-long bill, and then probably closing.
    I wouldnt be here complaining if it ended like that.

    Anyway, I'm not even sure why the writers decided to take that path. Having a story like this one was bound to fail due to the nature of the show. It's not something that can be casually written in like it was. In my opinion, the emotional impact would probably have been 10 times better if that episode dealt with an artist attempting to kill himself after lying to people about being famous. That's all they needed.

    I don't see anything wrong with what Nako did in this episode. Sure, she's pretty annoying with that personality but that's how she's portrayed. It's one thing to be a shy and reserved person in real life and it's another to write a character for a show to be shy and reserved, which is why she behaves the way she does and talks the way she does. The fact that you know she's a shy and reserved person and that it annoys you is a good job on the writer for bringing you to have emotions that character (rather than in other series where you'd simply ignore them, a case of bad writing). And like you said, it's a show about character development, so eventually she will develop into a better character. In other anime, she wouldn't change at all but in this, you can garuntee she will become more open.
    It's not something she did in particular, it's the character that I find one-dimensional and poorly writen.

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    it would probably help if they go out and flesh the characters beside hana, since the other 2 girls falls under that one dimensional label

    that being said, really this episode kinda dropped the ball for me, I was semi expecting realistic (as realistic as an anime goes I suppose) series, the first 2 episode provide exactly that and I was expecting them to build up the rest of the characters in the upcoming episode, but what I got was just the damn thing pretty much turning fanservice and everyone being retarded.

    I'll give it a few more episode before dropping the series, but so far I'm pretty disappointed to say the least

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    I'm not going to drop this series. I enjoyed the first two episode far too much to not give the whole show a chance, and the great animation make it fun to watch (even in the worst case scenario).

    The 3rd episode might have been a let down, but I still think it's above the average animes we get these days.

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    New Rurouni Kenshin Anime?
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    New Rurouni Kenshin Anime Green-Lit
    The June issue of Shueisha's Jump Square magazine is announcing on Thursday that production on a new Rurouni Kenshin anime project has been green-lit. More information will be provided in future issues of Jump Square.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    I'm not going to drop this series. I enjoyed the first two episode far too much to not give the whole show a chance, and the great animation make it fun to watch (even in the worst case scenario).

    The 3rd episode might have been a let down, but I still think it's above the average animes we get these days.
    I'm just gonna see if this is a low point of the series or the actual direction of the series, I'm willing to keep following on the former, but hell if I'd keep watching if it was the latter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia View Post
    I wouldnt be here complaining if it ended like that.

    Anyway, I'm not even sure why the writers decided to take that path. Having a story like this one was bound to fail due to the nature of the show. It's not something that can be casually written in like it was. In my opinion, the emotional impact would probably have been 10 times better if that episode dealt with an artist attempting to kill himself after lying to people about being famous. That's all they needed.


    It's not something she did in particular, it's the character that I find one-dimensional and poorly writen.
    You have to remember that Ohana is extremely easy going. 1) Her mother doesn't help her at all, so she takes care of herself, 2) She is dumped onto her grandmother's inn while her mother bails away with her boyfriend to avoid loan sharks, 3) She is forced into working by her grandmother, 4) She is constantly harassed and ignored by the two coworkers of her own age.

    When she is at the point of being tied up in a bondage fashion, her thoughts are not to get away but to correct the knot mistakes....

    When she is portrayed as having a sex scene with her coworkers, and a mop, her thoughts are not of the awkwardness of the situation, but that it captures her desire to improve....

    She is naive. She is immature. She wants to help others, but doesn't want to rely on anyone else's help.

    Is this realistic? Well, its anime. It is completely made up.

    With regards to Nako, she is pretty similar to a lot of reserved girls I have met. They are extremely shy, and do not want to meet anyone head-on or have confrontations. Being a "kappapa", I guess, makes her slightly less 1 dimensional.

    I have to agree with Avvesione, this is an anime about character development. These first few episodes shows us the baselines of each character. We have been introduced to the characters and have seen their strengths and weaknesses. For the anime to be successful, the characters have to overcome their weaknesses, while growing together. This is why anime are usually about 13-17 year olds; it is a time when there are conflicts through maturing of both body and mind.

    These characters would all progress in a straight line if it had not been for Ohana's introduction. Not that I have any knowledge on how the story will develop, but these type of anime usually have the characters changing a little to become more friendly with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popsiclestix
    She is naive. She is immature. She wants to help others, but doesn't want to rely on anyone else's help.

    Is this realistic? Well, its anime. It is completely made up.
    It doesnt mean we have to accept any kind of bullshit they toss at us. There is always a point where the suspension of disbelief is lifted, and for me, Ohana's reaction during the bondage scenes was it.

    She might have been naive the whole time, but until now, there was nothing major. Being kidnapped and tied the way she was took it to a whole new level...one that is closer to ridiculous comedy than drama. In another series, it would have been funny, but here, it just destroy the character.

    this is an anime about character development
    This is exactly why it's crucial to have well written character in this show. You can't write a drama with gimmicky characters, you need one that the viewer can related to, one that goes through a wide scope of believable emotion...This 3rd episode failled to give me that.

    With regards to Nako, she is pretty similar to a lot of reserved girls I have met. They are extremely shy, and do not want to meet anyone head-on or have confrontations. Being a "kappapa", I guess, makes her slightly less 1 dimensional.
    If Nako was 4 year old, it would have been fine. But she is not. She is 16, and she is scared of Ohana because she is loud. Sometime, her action are rights, but her behavior doesn't feel right when she is with Minko and explains her fear or reasoning...they make her sound very stupid.

    I'm not sure what you think goes through the mind of the girl you met, but I can assure you they arent as simple minded as her.

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    And knowing how to swim doesnt make her less one dimensional. She could be a robot ninja maid who discovered a cure for cancer, she would still be one dimensional with that personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ker View Post
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    I'm wondering if this will be like FMA: Brotherhood. I never read the manga, but I think I read/heard the anime kind of went off in its own direction after the Shishio arc? Can't remember too much after Shishio, but I just remember the ending being somewhat disappointing.

    Looking forward to this though.

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    Yeah. I quit watching after Shishio. Everything from the start was amazing though, if Kenshin was just like the original FMA and they make a brotherhood version which turns out to be better, I would 100% watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scythiroth View Post
    I'm wondering if this will be like FMA: Brotherhood. I never read the manga, but I think I read/heard the anime kind of went off in its own direction after the Shishio arc? Can't remember too much after Shishio, but I just remember the ending being somewhat disappointing.

    Looking forward to this though.
    I guess it's going to be like Brotherhood, but with some different designs.

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    Wow.. that opening brings back memories.

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    holy fuck that was horrid...

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