Anime Thread. [Prob not 56k safe]

**Kaylia** · 2011-04-22 23:24

Originally Posted by Elcura

Focus shifted to Homura because while the show was named after Madoka, Homura to me felt like the main character.

I liked the open ending, it's good and bad for the universe in a way and it's bitter-sweet, which leaves a good after taste. Personally I liked the ending. It's still tragic but hopeful. If it had been a completely good ending, all sunshine and roses I would've felt cheated.

Homura was my least favorite character. There was something about her attitude that annoyed me.

Anyway, I'm usually a fan of open ending, and I liked this one...it's just that it feel like they gave us too much details for an open ending. They could have stopped at the scenes between kyubey and Homura and leave the rest to imagination. I didnt need to see another cycle, new enemies and stuff like this.

**Rivero** · 2011-04-23 10:32

I liked how Magical Madoka ended. It was nicely done to be honest. The whole show was stark and depressing so having a nice ending was actually a nice tough for me.

Is Angel Beats! any good? I'm debating on watching that or To Aru no Majitsu.

**Zilong** · 2011-04-23 13:16

that's a choice between 2 bowls of shit IMO

**Silenka** · 2011-04-23 16:39

Angel Beats has some redeeming qualities. There are a few really good/funny/interesting characters in there and the storyline is kind of unusual. I'd probably rather watch that again than Index, which is really very blah throughout the whole thing.

**Rivero** · 2011-04-23 16:46

Originally Posted by Zilong

that's a choice between 2 bowls of shit IMO

I think I've eaten out of most of the good ones already. lol

**Scythiroth** · 2011-04-23 16:49

Originally Posted by Zilong

that's a choice between 2 bowls of shit IMO

Pretty much. Angel Beats was pretty bad. Toaru Majutsu no Index is a guilty pleasure of mine, but I don't really recommend it to many people.

**Maguspk** · 2011-04-24 02:44

Madoka ending was so good, finally got around to watching it and finished up a few minutes ago. Madoka becoming a god was a pretty powerful scene, just telling QB what to do and make her a god...holy shit. Then the scenes with her popping up to relieve all the mahou shoujo. I can't say the ending was happy though, especially since they are still risking their lives fighting another magical being, but it'd be naive to think they could just live happily ever after given the circumstances.

I don't understand the whole 'used grief seeds showing up randomly' thing. Why would there need to be mahou shoujo for QB if the grief seeds just randomly show up for him to 'collect'. It makes zero sense.

**Kaylia** · 2011-04-24 02:49

Originally Posted by Magus

I don't understand the whole 'used grief seeds showing up randomly' thing. Why would there need to be mahou shoujo for QB if the grief seeds just randomly show up for him to 'collect'. It makes zero sense

The physics laws haven't changed, it's just that now, the witches part is bypassed by Madoka's wish. Or rather, it's the only difference between the old laws and the new one.

Before: Magical girl would take everyone's grief on herself--> turn into a witch --> witch is killed and drop the seed
Now: Magical girl take everyone's grief on herself--> Madoka separate the "witch" from the magical girl--> seed is released somewhere

Kyubey doesn't understand the 2nd step anymore because it's Madoka who is doing it outside our universe, but the process is essentially the same, minus the witches.

**Maguspk** · 2011-04-24 02:53

Yea but now since there are no witches why would there be mahou shoujo. QB can just collect the randomly appearing 'grief seeds' yeah?

Also, relevant:

**Kaylia** · 2011-04-24 03:00

I edited my last post after your reply. There is still "grief" that need to be countered by magical girl. As long humans have emotion, it won't go away, and they will need magical girls to fight it.

**Maguspk** · 2011-04-24 03:13

Ah your explanation helped me make sense of it, yeah. So it's still necessary to have magical girls fighting, but they just can't be overwhelmed by despair anymore. However they can still die somehow as we saw with Sayaka.

**Kaylia** · 2011-04-24 03:57

Originally Posted by Maguspk

Ah your explanation helped me make sense of it, yeah. So it's still necessary to have magical girls fighting, but they just can't be overwhelmed by despair anymore. However they can still die somehow as we saw with Sayaka.

I think that's what make the most sense given the little we know, but I'm pretty sure people could find differents logically sound explanations. It doesn't really matter though, as long we know one of them work..

The only thing that bother me is that in the first universe, kyubey said the energy was obtained when the soul gem is turned into a grief seed. However, in the second universe, soul gem are never turned into grief seed. So how exactly is he getting energy out of it this time? I don't know. We just have to assume he can harnest the energy out of the grief seed the same way he could harnest it from the transformation.

**Zilong** · 2011-04-24 04:18

Homura mentioned in the end how the resentment just end up manifesting itself in this "world that can't be saved" when she was about to fight the Majuu. I think the old system is still in play, it's just that the part where soul gems are turned into grief seed and energy is released is completely nullified by Madoka.

I'd imagine the resentment gotten from defeating the Majuu were converted into those cubes that Homura was tossing at Kyuubey, and the scenes shows Homura's soul gem being able to at least purify some degree of it on its own into those cube, though that wouldn't really explain the corruption on her wing on the post credit scene...

I suppose the purification might only be possible in QB's presence.

**Kaylia** · 2011-04-24 04:23

Originally Posted by Zilong

Homura mentioned in the end how the resentment just end up manifesting itself in this "world that can't be saved" when she was about to fight the Majuu. I think the old system is still in play, it's just that the part where soul gems are turned into grief seed and energy is released is completely nullified by Madoka.

Yeah, but kyubey still need to harness that energy or he wouldn't be around. I'm just wondering how he harnest it this times since the magical girls arent going to turn into witches. Not that it really matter since the rules were never clearly explained.

**Zilong** · 2011-04-24 04:46

The only process shown was Homura's soul gems producing those cubes she threw to QB while she probably explained her story and QB just thinking she's nuts. I'll just wait for the manga scanlation to see if they'd go into more details on that I guess.

God, I hope Shinbou was just trolling when he said he wants a slice of life spinoff, because fuck that shit.

**Ker** · 2011-04-24 06:04

Ao no Exorcist Ep 2

Ao no Exorcist is definitely going to be a great series if they keep this up. I love how all the original material is blending so well with the manga's content that's also quite neatly developing the story and Rin's characteristics even further. Rin is definitely a deep and interesting lead. I really felt bad for him. he tries his best but faith isn't on his side.

Minor complain the action scenes they were rather short, but my god they were excellent.

**Kaylia** · 2011-04-24 06:49

Originally Posted by Zilong

The only process shown was Homura's soul gems producing those cubes she threw to QB while she probably explained her story and QB just thinking she's nuts. I'll just wait for the manga scanlation to see if they'd go into more details on that I guess.

God, I hope Shinbou was just trolling when he said he wants a slice of life spinoff, because fuck that shit.

If they ever make more Madoka, I want an unrelated cast with some tie-in, anything else would probably suck and take away from the main story.

**Zilong** · 2011-04-24 12:37

that kazumi magica manga "spinoff" they made is fucking shit as is, I fucking hope they just call it quit

**Gulkeeva** · 2011-04-24 15:46

Originally Posted by Ker

Ao no Exorcist Ep 2

Ao no Exorcist is definitely going to be a great series if they keep this up. I love how all the original material is blending so well with the manga's content that's also quite neatly developing the story and Rin's characteristics even further. Rin is definitely a deep and interesting lead. I really felt bad for him. he tries his best but faith isn't on his side.

Minor complain the action scenes they were rather short, but my god they were excellent.

yeah looks like this may be a long run series if they keep up with the action and all looks good (and seeing from the manga it should be some good fighting and ecchi scenes later)

**Sylvrdragon** · 2011-04-24 17:33

What I got from the Madoka ending is that the only thing to change was that when the Magic Girls were spent, they just stopped being Magic Girls (like retiring) instead of collapsing into Witches. I think the demons come from the distortions to reality caused by the girls' wishes that QB mentioned, since they can no longer manifest in their witch form.

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