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    Understanding Formula's help

    I'm hoping someone can assist me with understanding the below forumla. I'm not sure if I'm understanding everything properly:

    From VZX web:
    D Value=[D+SV+WS Correction]×Multiplier
    ?D ... It is expected to be: [Blue Magic Skill×0.11]×2+3. There's cap for each technique
    ?WS ... Related to Stats. Similar to WSC, there is level correction factor
    ?SV ... Modified by Your STR - Opponent VIT. Please refer to fSTR(2) table over here.
    ?multiplier = STR_20 DEX_20 ?(assuming this is fren rip)

    If I assume D and WS are capped/will never change, then my only variations would be fSTR and Multiplier. So am I right that my variable would be:

    fSTR * Multiplier

    If so:

    fSTR:
    Lets say for fSTR "Rank 5" (mob 80 vit; my base str = 106)

    Cust glov= 109 str (-80 vit) = 29; looking at VZX website 29 = 8 fSTR
    Pallas brac= 115 str - 80 = 35; = 9.5 fSTR
    Alky brac= 117 str - 80 = 37; = 10 fSTR

    Modifiers:
    str 20% & dex 20%
    Cust glov= 3 str (0.6000) & 3 dex (0.6000) = 1.2000
    Pallas brac= 9 (1.8000) & -5 (-1.0000) = 0.8000
    Alky brac= 11 (2.2000) & -6 (-1.2000) = 1.0000

    Total
    Cust glov = 8 * 1.2 = 9.6000
    Pallas brac= 9.5 * 0.8000 = 7.6000
    Alky brac= 10 * 1.0000 = 10.0000


    So (if my math is right????), Cust gloves are better then pallas brac but worse then alky's in achieving optimal results (for those given stats)?

    I also saw in other posts on BG that studio globi has a listing of all mobs stats? I tried to look but the translated page, but I couldn't figure it out.... Can anyone tell me approximately how much vit imps in caedave mire would have? And possibly what fstr rank they would have?

    Thanks

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    There was a post about this on KI in the Blue Mage forms a little after the last update

    Unfortantely, I can't provide the link atm because I am at the university and some bastard somehow got the whole university IP banned from the site

    Do a search on KI Blue Mage forum for I think something about Pallas in its title

    The result conclusion was the same as yours from what I remember. Alky > Custom > Pallas

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    Re: Understanding Formula's help

    Quote Originally Posted by Repairs
    If I assume D and WS are capped/will never change, then my only variations would be fSTR and Multiplier. So am I right that my variable would be:

    fSTR * Multiplier
    I haven't take a long time to think about this, but
    I don't think you can cut the formula like that.

    I used to do it that way, and it gave me wrong results.

    I also saw in other posts on BG that studio globi has a listing of all mobs stats? I tried to look but the translated page, but I couldn't figure it out.... Can anyone tell me approximately how much vit imps in caedave mire would have? And possibly what fstr rank they would have?
    They (Studio Gobli) hasn't got the data for the new ToAU mob. The only way we know it is to do the test like nagamaki (hit hit and hit, get the mode of the damage, and trace back from that number)

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    Well, if the formula was semi correct. Cust Gloves > Alky, if str - vit > 36... so i wouldn't conclude alky = best for all situations. I will check out KI once I get on a computer that doesn't have website restrictions...

    But, as VZX has mentioned, my formula may not make sense...
    _______
    Edit: So original post doesn't really mean much... If I actually input my proper stats instead of using just the "basic's", I get Alky > Pallas > Cust (big marin):

    I also noticed someone post about greater colbri having 67 vit, so I changed the formula to 70 vit and added my actual stats (into the original thoery)

    fSTR:
    Lets say for fSTR "Rank 5" (mob 70 vit; my base str = 106)

    Cust glov= 109 str (-70 vit) = 39; looking at VZX website 29 = 10.5 fSTR
    Pallas brac= 115 str - 70 = 45; = 12.0 fSTR
    Alky brac= 117 str - 70 = 47; = 12.5 fSTR

    Modifiers:
    str 20% & dex 20%
    Cust glov= 109 str (21.80) & 91 dex (18.20) = 40
    Pallas brac= 115 str (23.00) & 83 dex (16.60) = 39.60
    Alky brac= 117 (23.40) & 82 dex (16.40) = 39.80

    Total
    cust glov= 10.5 * 40.00 = 420.00
    pallas= 12 * 39.60 = 475.20
    alky= 12.5 * 39.80 = 497.50

    .... so .... :x






    Thanks everyone

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