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  1. #1
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    Alchemy: What furniture do you use?

    Just wondering what 100+6 Alchemists out there use as furniture. Obviously Emerelda, anything else for desynthing? Any specific mogenchantemts?

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    We had a discussion in linkshell the other day about mogenhancements and the correct furniture for what you are aiming for. Post your desired layout and I can probably help you with what you want. IE. 8 Mannequins, etc.

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    Yeah, mannies are very strong, and are just pure light. You jerks have it easy.

    Bonecraft is dark, and most dark stuff has Region control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabberwocky
    Yeah, mannies are very strong, and are just pure light. You jerks have it easy.

    Bonecraft is dark, and most dark stuff has Region control.
    Orz... I'm also a Bonecrafter...
    We got Hosed on the Element of our Furniture, I am still trying to figure out how I'm going to Keep my 8/8 Mannequins, 80 Storage, and get my Bonecrafting Effect.

    I cant figure it out without having to by and Ass Ton of Walahra Burner which are not all the cheap and not all the great for Storage Space...

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    Having overwhelming lightning with Mogenhancement: Alchemy is easy now with Console, but before I had my MH full of Tableware Sets and 5 Tsahyan Masks, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodorn
    Orz... I'm also a Bonecrafter...
    We got Hosed on the Element of our Furniture, I am still trying to figure out how I'm going to Keep my 8/8 Mannequins, 80 Storage, and get my Bonecrafting Effect.
    Same for leathercrafting. What the hell has ice energy on it? Butt-ugly giant tarutaru screens and one giant ugly bed. >< I can't even keep all 8 of my mannequins out anymore!

    Oh, but now there's a new lamp with ice energy! It only costs more than a million gil in materials to make~ Sign me up, I'll take six!

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    Ok, someone with a little more experience with this help me out a bit please...

    Drogaroga's Fang, 1 Storage, Dark 9
    Walahra Burner, 3 Storage, Dark 4
    Mannequin, 7 Storage, Light 6

    So 1 Fang, 10 Walahra Burners, and 8 Mannequins will Net me Moghancement: Bonecraft Skill with Faint dark Energy??

    Then I could Add... 1 Armoire (5 Storage, Water 16) and 2 Bookshelves ( 4 Storage, Fire 8 ) that cancel out each others Energy and get me over 80 Storage and Still Keep my Bonecrafting Enhancement?

    Walahra Burners are down to like only 200k worth of materials now so its not as bad as the last time I looked into getting more Storage and having Bonecrafting Magenhancement... they were like 2m each... thought of blowing 20m just to keep my Storage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naver
    We had a discussion in linkshell the other day about mogenhancements and the correct furniture for what you are aiming for. Post your desired layout and I can probably help you with what you want. IE. 8 Mannequins, etc.
    I have 8 maaniquins, and I want overwhelming lightning. lol. Help a brother out. I'm thinking like 6 console?

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    Oh man, I've got a big puzzler for ya Moghancement-wise. I think I've got a vaguely viable plan, but if it can be improved, I'd love to hear suggestions.

    I want to have three elements in near-balance so I can get one of three Moghancements just by putting up the furnishing for it. So assume all three furnishings are down, and I'll put up the one I want. The three are:

    Light (Miniature Airship for Experience)
    Water (Fishing Hole Map for Fishing Skill)
    Wind (Cordon Bleu Set for Cooking Skill)

    I have six Mannequins, as well as 4 large aquariums and 2 fishbowl aquariums that I absolutely love. It's not necessary that the Experience Moghancement comes from the airship, but if that's the case, I'm keeping the airship out due to sentimental value.

    I'd like the arrangement to be somewhat tasteful; for instance, my current setup has each of the large aquariums sitting on a Chest, with four of my mannequins posing in front of them.

    I don't actually have the necessary Fishing Skill or the Cordon Bleu Set yet, so this is an exercise in planning while I work on getting them.

    So, any suggestions for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodorn
    Ok, someone with a little more experience with this help me out a bit please...

    Drogaroga's Fang, 1 Storage, Dark 9
    Walahra Burner, 3 Storage, Dark 4
    Mannequin, 7 Storage, Light 6

    So 1 Fang, 10 Walahra Burners, and 8 Mannequins will Net me Moghancement: Bonecraft Skill with Faint dark Energy??

    Then I could Add... 1 Armoire (5 Storage, Water 16) and 2 Bookshelves ( 4 Storage, Fire 8 ) that cancel out each others Energy and get me over 80 Storage and Still Keep my Bonecrafting Enhancement?

    Walahra Burners are down to like only 200k worth of materials now so its not as bad as the last time I looked into getting more Storage and having Bonecrafting Magenhancement... they were like 2m each... thought of blowing 20m just to keep my Storage
    4 Autumn's End
    5 Walahra Burner
    8 Mannequin
    1 Armoire
    1 Drogaroga's Fang

    If I'm correct, should give you 80 storage, and let you keep the moghancement bonecraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naver
    We had a discussion in linkshell the other day about mogenhancements and the correct furniture for what you are aiming for. Post your desired layout and I can probably help you with what you want. IE. 8 Mannequins, etc.
    I have my Emerelda, obviously, along with that I have one mannequin, Bastokan flag, and some misc other furniture.

    I guess I'll ask my question with more detail..

    I'm wondering which mogenchantments are best for Alchemy, specifically, synthing cursed gear, and/or keeping consistant HQ1 or HQ2 rates on lower level synths. Does house element help the corresponding crystal?

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    If you don't need the +1 skill, go with moghancement:crystal_type to reduce loss on breaks.

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    All credit goes to Suiram for this finding, though I haven't tried it because of my current pocket problem. >_>


    Well here is my example for obtaining Cloth mogenhancement and keeping certain furniture.

    8 mannequins = 56 storage = 48 light energy
    3 armoires = 15 storage = 48 water energy

    When I talked to the moogle with those in my layout only, the moogle says something along the lines of, a mixture of faint energy. None being dominant, thus no mogenhancements given.

    This is the bulk of my storage spaces, only need 9 more storage to complete that but with the Gilt Tapestry I only need 8 more storage.

    So far it looks like:

    8 mannequins = 56 storage = 48 light energy
    3 armoires = 15 storage = 48 water energy
    1 G.Tapestry = 1 storage = 9 earth energy

    From here Suiram told me I would need 40+ more earth energy furniture to get the faint elemental energy, though it would be nice to get powerful elemental enegy with 51+ earth.

    5 Maple tables = 5 storage = 40 earth energy

    that gives me: 76 storage, 49 earth, 48 light and 48 water. Having earth be the more dominant, though only by 1 elemental energy.

    I could also add a Cassion = 3 storage = 3 earth energy to get a total of:
    8 mog safe spaces for 79 storage spaces and 52 earth, 48 light 48 water with Cloth Mogenhancement.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus
    Quote Originally Posted by Naver
    We had a discussion in linkshell the other day about mogenhancements and the correct furniture for what you are aiming for. Post your desired layout and I can probably help you with what you want. IE. 8 Mannequins, etc.
    I have 8 maaniquins, and I want overwhelming lightning. lol. Help a brother out. I'm thinking like 6 console?
    6 consoles are 6 lightning a peice, think you'll need more to counter the 8 mannequins. You'll need 8 consoles to counter the 8 mannequins energy, then Emerelda or what not to get the desired mogenhancement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodorn
    Ok, someone with a little more experience with this help me out a bit please...

    Drogaroga's Fang, 1 Storage, Dark 9
    Walahra Burner, 3 Storage, Dark 4
    Mannequin, 7 Storage, Light 6

    So 1 Fang, 10 Walahra Burners, and 8 Mannequins will Net me Moghancement: Bonecraft Skill with Faint dark Energy??

    Then I could Add... 1 Armoire (5 Storage, Water 16) and 2 Bookshelves ( 4 Storage, Fire 8 ) that cancel out each others Energy and get me over 80 Storage and Still Keep my Bonecrafting Enhancement?

    Walahra Burners are down to like only 200k worth of materials now so its not as bad as the last time I looked into getting more Storage and having Bonecrafting Magenhancement... they were like 2m each... thought of blowing 20m just to keep my Storage
    I thought that when you do the armoire + 2 bookshelves I would get zero elemental energy, but in fact that isnt true. The element stays in your mog house and needs to be counteracted in order to get what you're going after. In other words you'll still have Fire 16 Water 16 Light 48 Dark 49. Which is what you are aiming for, Dark faint elemental energy

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    Just be careful of some of the furniture you get, regardless of the storage and element it gives. I had a REALLY hard time with some of my fish aquariums, and my clothcraft MogEnh. Took me a few hours to make (nobody sells caisson's) and swap in and out stuff. I currently can only have 1 mannequin up, or else I can't get earth energy (lack of spaces). I think if you are REALLY running into storage space issues, then you might want to just do some spring cleaning. You know, those rare/ex drops you got like 2 years ago off some tonberry thinking you'd eventually FINISH the quest, or the rare/ex gear you have for your warrior that is now 75, but the gear is like level 55 or so and you'd never use it? yea, I went through a spring cleaning of sorts when I was doing the furniture dance for my crafting, and I ended up tossing about 50 items i'd just been hanging onto, including some assorted AF2's for some of the jobs I had (hoping maybe i'd eventually finish up the set, but the pieces I have are worthless, so why keep).

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    Re: Alchemy: What furniture do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by diemos
    Just wondering what 100+6 Alchemists out there use as furniture. Obviously Emerelda, anything else for desynthing? Any specific mogenchantemts?
    If I have my Emerelda but not Bastokan Flag equipped: Alchemy Skill
    If I have both Emerelda and Bastokan Flag: lightning synthesis
    If I have neither Emelda or Bastokan Flag: Desynthesis

    I got the last by having a Tshayan Mask in the mog house and just loading up on 1 and 2 point items so that the Tshayan Mask would be the strongest item (those Dream furnishings from last christmas were very nice).

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    Re: Alchemy: What furniture do you use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Byrd
    If I have my Emerelda but not Bastokan Flag equipped: Alchemy Skill
    If I have both Emerelda and Bastokan Flag: lightning synthesis
    If I have neither Emelda or Bastokan Flag: Desynthesis
    Damn thats nice...

    My Goal is to be able to go from Earth to Bonecrafting like that, but have to hold that 80 Storage...

    Does Strength of your Element effect the Break Rate on the Crystal Mogenhancements?