Leeching in Besieged

[Mifaco]

OK so I'm trying to get maximum experience in Besieged as a lv58 RDM. I go around curebombing people, convert, curebomb again and I'll end up with 800 exp at the most. I'm kinda miffed because my whm can do the exact same thing and end up with 1200 exp, and my mnk can fight 2 enemies and come out with 1200.

Since there seems to be no detailed exp/action analysis of Besieged, how do I leech effectively as a lv58 rdm?

[ringthree]

OK so I'm trying to get maximum experience in Besieged as a lv58 RDM. I go around curebombing people, convert, curebomb again and I'll end up with 800 exp at the most. I'm kinda miffed because my whm can do the exact same thing and end up with 1200 exp, and my mnk can fight 2 enemies and come out with 1200.

Since there seems to be no detailed exp/action analysis of Besieged, how do I leech effectively as a lv58 rdm?

Needs more Dia.

(I believe that each job has an expected role in Besieged and you get XP based upon how you do that, so WHM all healing ok, MNK all attack ok, RDM might require both).

[draxyl]

Hold the phone, rdm's are supposed to enfeeble?

[SephYuyX]

Hold the phone, rdm's are supposed to enfeeble?

Didnt you get the memo? Since toau came out, no job needs to do anything they should be doing.

[Eddie]

I thought it was by dmg dealt/amount healed.

[Septimus]

When I do Besieged on RDM I melee for points. Enfeebling spells are either cast already by other RDMs or outright resisted. (Silence)

But I think that when you melee for points you have to actually hit the mob to get points. One time I tried to skill up a formerly woeful hand-to-hand skill in besieged but didn't get anywhere near close to maximum points because it was a whiff-fest.

I think the best thing you can do to get points in Besieged it to take a lot of damage. I always tend to get full points when I die and raise up 6 or more times. (Not like you have time to get points any other way in that case.)

[Eddie]

If you're 50 something RDM, or any job that level for that matter, I'd just stick to curing the hell out of everyone. When besieged came out my rdm was already capped so all I did was melee and cure and I capped xp everytime.

[Wulfgang]

Sub WAR and provoke stuff. I find its the best way to get max XP other than pure dmg. You also definitely will not get hate unless you provoke a mob at 100% so its pretty safe as well. I don't have a detailed analysis for you though.

[Thistle]

(I believe that each job has an expected role in Besieged and you get XP based upon how you do that, so WHM all healing ok, MNK all attack ok, RDM might require both).

That's what I believe, too. I attend as many Besiegeds as I can, they're one of the very few things in the game I have fun at. Not counting DCs or coming late, there were only three times I didn't get full reward:

1) DRK/WHM. Just cured. Did tons of curing. Didn't even get half XP. (I was getting ready for work so didn't want to go melee stuff where I might not notice I was taking damage. I stayed on the sidelines and cured people as they unweakened.)

2) BRD/WHM. Never sang anything, just cured. Was lazy.

3) Went as WAR30/WHM. Wanted to see how much I could leech with just curing. The answer: Not much!

When I do DRK/WHM I make sure to melee as well as cure, but mostly I just go as BRD/WHM so I toss out some songs while curing.

[fantasticdan]

It seems to me, each spell/action counts for a certain amount of points, and low level spells (like sub 30) don't do jack. I brought whm 15-25ish into besieged a few times, and spent the entire times curing/raising/etc, and got around 500-700 out of 1000 exp each time. Meanwhile, I go in on 75 blu or rdm, melee like 2-3 mobs, get hit by an aoe and cure myself, than go afk in the corner, I'll get full exp everytime.

You could try engaging mobs and whiffing at them, that seems to give me max exp on rdm, lol.

[Allundaria]

I go to these as my 60s PLD to skillup enhancing the cheap way by spamming Pro/Shell on NPCs. Doing that the entire time, plus cure bombing any wounded players or generals, usually puts me just shy of the exp cap. Dia'ing enemies helps, but you'll need to do it tons and tons of times if you're not just using it to supplant some other kind of point generating action.

BRD songs generate tons of points. Back when Besieged was ultra unstable I would just elegy and threnody a few mobs, toss a Dia or two, then run for the most unpopulated part of Al-Zahbi and hide in fear of disconnects blowing all my work. I'm pretty sure you could sub it on another job and spam songs to get points; even unsuccessful casts seem to give you credit.

[izembo]

i would go blm/whm and curebomb 2 mp pools worth and get full xp each time so i dunno whats up =/

[evilpaul]

Reraise is worth 24 points in Besieged. I know, because I zoned in, cast Reraise, and it ended.

For pure leeching, spamming protect/shell on Generals/NPCs used to work, but I think they nerfed it. Melee whiff-fests will cap your EXP, but AoEs may be a problem at lower levels.

[shihei]

needs more curing on generals maybe...
maybe try and kite away unclaimed mobs with spells to idk

[akarikamigishi]

I read somewhere that low level melee just lock on a mob and attack it, even if they miss like crazy, they get full exp.

Lately I've been going on bst (68ish), sub nin or whm depending on if I have a pt or not. I miss a crapton even with 3 axe merits and something like +30 acc. At this level I've been able to get capped exp almost every time, but when I was in the 50s, even meleeing the entire time (and missing), I didn't get capped exp often. That being said, pure melee seems to fall short of the cap unless you either attack a LOT, or do a lot of damage. Cure bombing on rdm from random levels 50-75 always got cap. Always. If you sub whm, have the giant's drink on, and convert, it's even easier. I never bothered to use enfeeble, prot/shell, just cure 3 and 4, and.. yeah.

Edit: hate is whack in besieged. I've gone on drk, went to a mob at 60% hp and purple, tons of people around hitting it - I pulled out weapon, MISSED ONE HIT, and got hate.

[Thistle]

Edit: hate is whack in besieged. I've gone on drk, went to a mob at 60% hp and purple, tons of people around hitting it - I pulled out weapon, MISSED ONE HIT, and got hate.

Yes! I've had that exact same experience. On a mob where a tank was actually voking (how rare is that!) I got hate with a MISS on DRK. I mean what the hell?

When I go on DRK, my normal tactic is to unlock, WS, and turn and run even before seeing what the damage is. Every WS = I'm kiting the damned mob, no matter what anyone else does.

While DRK is more fun, BRD is easier so I usually go as that. :/

[Fallso]

I go as Drk/Rdm or Nin/Whm(Nin59), Drk I just attack normally and use the Rdm sub to cure myself and use stoneskin, but Nin I just go around curebombing/raising people and I get max MP. I do cast Utsusemi a few times so maybe that's it lol.

[Almalexia]

Edit: hate is whack in besieged. I've gone on drk, went to a mob at 60% hp and purple, tons of people around hitting it - I pulled out weapon, MISSED ONE HIT, and got hate.

Mobs will occasionally "reset" and move for the generalsl/Astral Candescence even when several people are beating on them. This is why it's so easy to outrun unwanted aggro in Besieged. These are not to be confused with mobs like Slaughterous Scorpions and Bull Bugards that single-mindedly attack a target unless you manage to produce a large amount of hate just as they use TP/attack round.

[Geli]

Don't cure bomb ppl for max exp, do the same thing with any injured NPCs (still no idea if healing for 0 counts) - you'll get not only exp but some crazy Healing Magic skill ups.
If it's undead besieged - cure bomb every skeleton, bhoot e t.c. too.

[Suiram]

I've noticed on BLM that if I go around doing typical BLM stuff, I'll often get 100-200 less than max, but if I do the exact same thing while having my staff drawn against whatever I'm casting on--even if I do so from well out of melee range only swinging at it when it happens to wander over--I always get full points. I also noticed when my BLU was mid-60s and I did besieged while standing around waiting for PT or something, I'd always get full points even though I was hitting for 0s when I wasn't missing, and my spells rarely landed. This leads me to believe that simply having your weapon drawn increases your point total over time.