Special Development Interview with SE (4/17)

[Siatdiat]

You'll still be in those same zones regardless in two years, even if there is something new. You'll just have more possible things to do in the same amount of time, and either crowd them in and stop doing things you should be doing like schoolwork, or youll drop back and only do things you like to do or want to do. I think most people just feel trapped at that point because you dont want to fuck your life up over video game pixels, but at the same time, most peoples ls are going to get bitchy when people only do events they like to do and skip old shit. When it comes down to it I think the lack of people doing salvage is less about people being lazy, but about people already having a full load of ls events and no time to fit it in. I dont care what this board is about, even here its only a small percentage (i hope) that spends enough time playing ffxi rather than going out with friends, doing work, schoolwork, etc. to actually participate in all the current endgame possibilities. So I for one dont want to see any more new "endgame" content any time soon.

[Gere]

As far as Besieged, comparing it to Fafnir is retarded

No it's not.

a level 30 can't do jack shit to Fafnir.

A level 30 can't do jack shit to a beseiged mob.

A level 30 in Besieged can run around randomly healing people and get a good chunk of EXP and IP.

A level 30 at fafnir can run around randomly healing people, and the ls can compensate him with money or junk drops.

[Fusional]

a level 30 can't run around healing people at fafnir, because in healing people with hate he gets hate, and wing would destroy a level 30 player.

just sayin'

[hexagram23]

a level 30 can't run around healing people at fafnir, because in healing people with hate he gets hate, and wing would destroy a level 30 player.

just sayin'

Exactly....why is this so hard to grasp? Comparing the two is retarded.

You fight Fafnir for drops. You do Besieged for EXP/IP. A level 30 can't do anything to Fafnir, but he can do Besieged and get EXP/IP. So how are the two the same, one you can do and get a reward, the other you can't.

[Sci]

a level 30 can't run around healing people at fafnir, because in healing people with hate he gets hate, and wing would destroy a level 30 player.

just sayin'

Exactly....why is this so hard to grasp? Comparing the two is retarded.

You fight Fafnir for drops. You do Besieged for EXP/IP. A level 30 can't do anything to Fafnir, but he can do Besieged and get EXP/IP. So how are the two the same, one you can do and get a reward, the other you can't.

A level 30 can claim Fafnir, which is the only part of the fight that matters.

[hexagram23]

a level 30 can't run around healing people at fafnir, because in healing people with hate he gets hate, and wing would destroy a level 30 player.

just sayin'

Exactly....why is this so hard to grasp? Comparing the two is retarded.

You fight Fafnir for drops. You do Besieged for EXP/IP. A level 30 can't do anything to Fafnir, but he can do Besieged and get EXP/IP. So how are the two the same, one you can do and get a reward, the other you can't.

A level 30 can claim Fafnir, which is the only part of the fight that matters.

Jesus what's with this place today? First there was the 2-3 people claiming Haste and Sushi on a DRK will beat out Attack/meat, now this.

The end result of claiming Fafhogg, is to kill it. The only reason claim is "the only part that matters" is because the fights are generally a joke to any half decent LS. Claiming Fafhogg as a level 30 is pointless because you can't kill it as a level 30, so what the fuck is the point? As a rule no one is gonna take a level 30 to Dragon's Aery anyway, so why the hell is it being discussed?

[Charitwo]

a level 30 can't run around healing people at fafnir, because in healing people with hate he gets hate, and wing would destroy a level 30 player.

just sayin'

Exactly....why is this so hard to grasp? Comparing the two is retarded.

You fight Fafnir for drops. You do Besieged for EXP/IP. A level 30 can't do anything to Fafnir, but he can do Besieged and get EXP/IP. So how are the two the same, one you can do and get a reward, the other you can't.

A level 30 can claim Fafnir, which is the only part of the fight that matters.

Jesus what's with this place today? First there was the 2-3 people claiming Haste and Sushi on a DRK will beat out Attack/meat, now this.

The end result of claiming Fafhogg, is to kill it. The only reason claim is "the only part that matters" is because the fights are generally a joke to any half decent LS. Claiming Fafhogg as a level 30 is pointless because you can't kill it as a level 30, so what the fuck is the point? As a rule no one is gonna take a level 30 to Dragon's Aery anyway, so why the hell is it being discussed?

Actually, there are people who take LV1 mules or secondary accounts to Dragon's Aery merely for ToD or claiming purposes.

lol

[Viena]

Thank you a lot, Elmer.

[SephYuyX]

Your server doesnt use lvl5 WARs in Aery?

And the lvl30 things are the same.

[Sci]

Jesus what's with this place today? First there was the 2-3 people claiming Haste and Sushi on a DRK will beat out Attack/meat, now this.

The end result of claiming Fafhogg, is to kill it. The only reason claim is "the only part that matters" is because the fights are generally a joke to any half decent LS. Claiming Fafhogg as a level 30 is pointless because you can't kill it as a level 30, so what the fuck is the point? As a rule no one is gonna take a level 30 to Dragon's Aery anyway, so why the hell is it being discussed?

Before the claim changes, I knew lots of mages who would level up a mule to 5 just for provoke and run it down to the aery. And you seem to know that killing Fafnir is a joke, so claiming it IS the most important thing. I never said someone lvl30 would be useful fighting Fafnir.

And just because a lvl30 person can get EXP/IS from Besieged, doesn't mean it's good that they're there. Odds are they're blocking a lvl75 from getting into the zone.

[Hanyoko]

I know I love the assault reward system; I feel its perfect for distribution of items. You put in your time and effort to win and clearly can see where you are versus where you need to be to obtain it.

I wish other systems were as clear cut; after having done almost 200 dynamis events I can count certain relic drops on one hand and others i've lost count of.

I'm very interested to see what they plan for salvage since as it is right now I personally cannot justify putting forth the effort for the gear, let alone stick around to repeat run after run to help others get theirs. Well, that and I don't like letting my character run around nakey =^.~=

Side note: I'm surprised they didnt mention AV at all.

[Terrance]

And just because a lvl30 person can get EXP/IS from Besieged, doesn't mean it's good that they're there. Odds are they're blocking a lvl75 from getting into the zone.

Besieged doesn't even come close to 700 anymore outside of Japan prime on our server and usually not even then. No one is blocking anything.

[SephYuyX]

And just because a lvl30 person can get EXP/IS from Besieged, doesn't mean it's good that they're there. Odds are they're blocking a lvl75 from getting into the zone.

Besieged doesn't even come close to 700 anymore outside of Japan prime on our server and usually not even then. No one is blocking anything.

I was kicked out the day before, and yesterday after dynamis.

[Lordender]

thx elmer for the translation.

however it seems they said lolcolosseum seems like an event no one will care about being that most of the thrill in this game these days either comes from good drops from an HNM/dynamis or a salvage win.

[Spira]

nicely done elmer..

lol i confused the pit and the colosseum >_<;


i dunno i've always seen Salvage as a Dynamis equivalent..

and Nyzul assault to me was like Limbus and KS99s.. tiered in some sense. (well you need to collect 99 seals.. thats progression)
it'd be interesting to see if the basic form of new relic weapons is found at the top of Nyzul...

Assault and ISNM seemed like ToAs answer to ENMs and BCNMs..
Assault was also how ToA rank could rise and u buy stuff using IS, so you could say it's the equivalent of doing nation missions.

[superfob]

Seems like the Nyzul Isle weapons really are Relic Weapons 2.0, or something of that nature, if the cryptic comments are anything to go by.

Since this was lost among the lolbesieged arguements. I was thinking that exact same thing. Perhaps they'll add some type of currency drops to Salvage so you can upgrade your Relic 2.0.

[hexagram23]

Jesus what's with this place today? First there was the 2-3 people claiming Haste and Sushi on a DRK will beat out Attack/meat, now this.

The end result of claiming Fafhogg, is to kill it. The only reason claim is "the only part that matters" is because the fights are generally a joke to any half decent LS. Claiming Fafhogg as a level 30 is pointless becausyou can't kill it as a level 30, so what the fuck is the point? As a rule no one is gonna take a level 30 to Dragon's Aery anyway, so why the hell is it being discussed?

Before the claim changes, I knew lots of mages who would level up a mule to 5 just for provoke and run it down to the aery. And you seem to know that killing Fafnir is a joke, so claiming it IS the most important thing. I never said someone lvl30 would be useful fighting Fafnir.

And just because a lvl30 person can get EXP/IS from Besieged, doesn't mean it's good that they're there. Odds are they're blocking a lvl75 from getting into the zone.

Odds are Besieged isn't full enough that a random level 30 is gonna get you kicked, so what's your point? If you expect me to believe 700+ people turn out to every single Besieged on your server, you're out of your mind.

Regardless of whether or not you think that level 30s should be in Besieged, they are, and they can get EXP/IP the same as a level 75, with no help from level 75s.

A level 30 claiming Fafhogg CANNOT kill it without the help of level 75s, so how are the two things the same?

That was my point. One (Besieged) can be sucessfully done by almost any level, the other (Fafhogg) cannot. A level 30 claiming Fafhogg doesn't mean the mob was made for level 30s to fight, because they obviously CAN'T. A level 30 can attend Besieged and get the exact same rewards as a level 75 though.

[Priran]

Besieged on my server is only ever full capacity when there's more than 1 army preparing, and even then, it probably isn't unless it's JP time. Single Level 7s usually get around 2-350 people.

[Not Kuno]

JP besieged on Bahamut are always super packed.

[layoneil]

A level 30 claiming Fafhogg CANNOT kill it without the help of level 75s, so how are the two things the same?

and Besieged cannot be won by a full zone of Lv 30s. the end result is the same. the people doing the winning are the high level players, the Lv 30s are leeches. it's easier to leech in Besieged than at Fafnir but the low levels are leeching just the same. replace 30 low level healers with a 75 WHM and it won't change the outcome of that particular Besiege.

A level 30 can attend Besieged and get the exact same rewards as a level 75 though.

without doing nearly the same amount of work that a 75 would've done in contributing to the win.