Special Development Interview with SE (4/17)

[fantasticdan]

Besieged doesn't even come close to 700 anymore outside of Japan prime on our server and usually not even then. No one is blocking anything.

I've been blocked out of besieged the last 3 or 4 times, I've tried to go, due to 700+ people in zone.

[Soldier]

Editor: You don't think you will ever have a real-time action match between two players?

Ogawa: That's right. We plan to leave it as is.

Tanaka: Eventually, we aim to add the ability to gamble on Chocobo Races. Different connection speeds and interent clients could make this unfair.
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And 5 years of NM's being decided on latency isn't?

[klvino]

Side note: I'm not surprised they didn't mention AV at all.

fixed

[divisortheory]

Jesus what's with this place today? First there was the 2-3 people claiming Haste and Sushi on a DRK will beat out Attack/meat

Since when is it bad for people to claim facts? In case people missed it, this guy is saying Att+20 Acc+3 will beat Haste+14%

[Peucritond]

Since when is it bad for people to claim facts? In case people missed it, this guy is saying Att+20 Acc+3 will beat Haste+14%

well this is probably true..... if your drk was level 2.

[layoneil]

Since when is it bad for people to claim facts? In case people missed it, this guy is saying Att+20 Acc+3 will beat Haste+14%

well this is probably true..... if your drk was level 2.

banning anyone who continues this topic in this thread permanently.

[Ace-o-fire]

Egh, probably going to wait till they ether add a new expansion pack in before i even consider coming back.

[Kuya]

Egh, probably going to wait till they ether add a new expansion pack in before i even consider coming back.

People who always say this, are not only completely wasting their time, but will most likely quit 3 months after expansion release, after the euphoria dies down.

[Lordwafik]

Egh, probably going to wait till they ether add a new expansion pack in before i even consider coming back.

People who always say this, are not only completely wasting their time, but will most likely quit 3 months after expansion release, after the euphoria dies down.

Yah, I remember seeing a bunch of WoWfags return only to get bored again and leave.

[kamugi]

Thanks Elmer, you rock.

[Remedia]

Egh, probably going to wait till they ether add a new expansion pack in before i even consider coming back.

People who always say this, are not only completely wasting their time, but will most likely quit 3 months after expansion release, after the euphoria dies down.

Yah, I remember seeing a bunch of WoWfags return only to get bored again and leave.

qft

[hexagram23]

A level 30 claiming Fafhogg CANNOT kill it without the help of level 75s, so how are the two things the same?

and Besieged cannot be won by a full zone of Lv 30s. the end result is the same. the people doing the winning are the high level players, the Lv 30s are leeches. it's easier to leech in Besieged than at Fafnir but the low levels are leeching just the same. replace 30 low level healers with a 75 WHM and it won't change the outcome of that particular Besiege.

A level 30 can attend Besieged and get the exact same rewards as a level 75 though.

without doing nearly the same amount of work that a 75 would've done in contributing to the win.

According to the game they have done the same work, because they will get about the same EXP/IP, so who are you to say they didn't contribute enough? If SE wanted Besieged to be 70+, they could've made it level capped. They didn't, and not only did they not do that, they made it so almost any level has a chance to get the same reward. If that's not "for every level", I don't know what is.

This whole conversation is retarded because Besieged is not even the point. Let's say Besieged is for higher levs only.....great. How is that a good reason not to add a new end game area? That was the original question, how has what SE added so far with this expansion reason enough for them not to add a new end-game area?

[Gere]

A level 30 claiming Fafhogg CANNOT kill it without the help of level 75s, so how are the two things the same?

and Besieged cannot be won by a full zone of Lv 30s. the end result is the same. the people doing the winning are the high level players, the Lv 30s are leeches. it's easier to leech in Besieged than at Fafnir but the low levels are leeching just the same. replace 30 low level healers with a 75 WHM and it won't change the outcome of that particular Besiege.

A level 30 can attend Besieged and get the exact same rewards as a level 75 though.

without doing nearly the same amount of work that a 75 would've done in contributing to the win.

According to the game they have done the same work, because they will get about the same EXP/IP, so who are you to say they didn't contribute enough? If SE wanted Besieged to be 70+, they could've made it level capped. They didn't, and not only did they not do that, they made it so almost any level has a chance to get the same reward. If that's not "for every level", I don't know what is.

This whole conversation is retarded because Besieged is not even the point. Let's say Besieged is for higher levs only.....great. How is that a good reason not to add a new end game area? That was the original question, how has what SE added so far with this expansion reason enough for them not to add a new end-game area?

Why do you care when we're 99% sure that there will be a new end-game area?

[Kyreth]

They already sead they would look into it, and like they sead in the interview, they just need to add something so you actually gain something for consistently doing Salvage, this would make me do Salvage again.

Yeah, just something small, like Dynamis or Limbus currency, just something to make it so you dont leave runs with less than you go in with.

Bits of literal "Salvage" aside from the armor pieces would be nice. Or make the cells useful in making Pathos-resistant armor and weapons.

Even if they were items with serious penalties (say, a belt piece that was -5 to all stats, but allowed you to equip torso armor- or a ring that was 5% slow effect but let you equip weapons/use magic), they'd act as useful tools to Salvage players, giving people who explored previous instances a head-start and less reliance on cell drops.

[divisortheory]

Only 3 things need to happen for Salvage to be fixed:

1) Have an armoury crate right when you zone in that has 1 magic, 1 weapon, 1 ability, 1 sub job
2) Fix the pop conditions for the NMs in Zhayolm Remnants
3) Adjust the pop conditions for 3rd and 4th floor ramparts in Bhaflau Remnants

[Kuya]

Only 3 things need to happen for Salvage to be fixed:

1) Have an armoury crate right when you zone in that has 1 magic, 1 weapon, 1 ability, 1 sub job
2) Fix the pop conditions for the NMs in Zhayolm Remnants
3) Adjust the pop conditions for 3rd and 4th floor ramparts in Bhaflau Remnants

I'd be cool with this to.

[RKenshin]

I partially agree with that last, but drop rates should be a little more reasonable in some areas for sure. At times it's just ridiculous.

We're currently 0/30 or so now on Machas body, with two THF every run and at least one having TH3. Occasionally both, and occasionally TH4. Chariot hasn't been much nicer either. All in all its come down to a good 3-4 weeks (if not more) worth of Salvage for absolutely nothing.

EDIT: And, thanks a lot for the translation Elmer, nice job.

@Div yeah I meant just a minor change, I don't expect Machas/Ares to be the next pixie earring or something.

[divisortheory]

I partially agree with that last, but drop rates should be a little more reasonable in some areas for sure. At times it's just ridiculous.

We're currently 0/30 or so now on Machas body, with two THF every run and at least one having TH3. Occasionally both, and occasionally TH4. Chariot hasn't been much nicer either. All in all its come down to a good 3-4 weeks (if not more) worth of Salvage for absolutely nothing.

A drop rate adjustment wouldn't be too out of line, but only a slight adjustment. The more highly sought after pieces shoudl remain very rare. Morrigan Body and Ares Body are always going to be highly desired, so they should stay rare. On the other hand, giving you those 4 cells right when you start would seriously speed up farming in that zone, so you could have more time to kill 3rd floor Treasure Hunters in addition to the 4th floor treasure hunter (if you're fast enough you can probably kill both 3rd floor TH as well as 4th floor TH on the same run).

[hexagram23]

Why do you care when we're 99% sure that there will be a new end-game area?

The person I originally addressed said he didn't necessarily think they'd add an end game area because the expansion was "end-game stuff". I disagreed that this expansion was "end-game stuff" and now here we are.

[Mertron]

Only 3 things need to happen for Salvage to be fixed:

1) Have an armoury crate right when you zone in that has 1 magic, 1 weapon, 1 ability, 1 sub job
2) Fix the pop conditions for the NMs in Zhayolm Remnants
3) Adjust the pop conditions for 3rd and 4th floor ramparts in Bhaflau Remnants

4) Add a 5 minute time extension if you beat the boss.

Although even with that 5 minute extension we would have just got screwed anyway, apparently its "unfortunate" if items dont drop if everyone has passed or lotted already.

sigh.