Nyzul Weapon Discussion

[VZX]

Killer Bow - キラーボウ - Killer Bow
Archery Ｄ36 Delay 288
Lv75 RNG
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An average bow among several FF games, most significant being in FF5, where it provides a higher critical hit rate.

so sad

but looking at the delay, it's really similar to common craftable crossbows though. And if somepage's dat mining got the correct icon for this, then it's really a crossbow. (Yet it was put as a real bow in previous games instead of a crossbow?)

[Damane]

maybe they are just needed to quest a new WS so people can make lvl 4 SCs.

[Suiram]

I know it doesn't pertain to the immediate topic but I thought this was worth sharing, though probably not worth its own thread. When I opened up POLUtils to verify that Killer Bow is in fact a crossbow (it is, by the way), I noticed that there were four weapons added in the last update, with their names removed but everything else intact, all appearing to have maneater-type latent effects and corresponding to weaponskills for which no such weapon is available from ENM or IS.

Staff: D60 Del399, Latent: D66, Lv73 MNK WHM PLD DRG
Great Axe: D91 Del504, Latent: D96, Lv73 WAR DRK
Marksmanship: D35 Del288, Latent: D39, Lv73 WAR THF DRK RNG
Katana: D27 Del190, Latent: D32, Lv73 NIN

[Sho]

Killer Bow - キラーボウ - Killer Bow
Archery Ｄ36 Delay 288
Lv75 RNG
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An average bow among several FF games, most significant being in FF5, where it provides a higher critical hit rate.

so sad

but looking at the delay, it's really similar to common craftable crossbows though. And if somepage's dat mining got the correct icon for this, then it's really a crossbow. (Yet it was put as a real bow in previous games instead of a crossbow?)

/nod Normal Bow in previous games.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5...llerbowjb7.png
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/7...lerbow2ab0.png

Always liked FFV... pwns too hard even nowadays.

[Zilong]

Killer Bow - キラーボウ - Killer Bow
Archery Ｄ36 Delay 288
Lv75 RNG
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An average bow among several FF games, most significant being in FF5, where it provides a higher critical hit rate.

so sad

but looking at the delay, it's really similar to common craftable crossbows though. And if somepage's dat mining got the correct icon for this, then it's really a crossbow. (Yet it was put as a real bow in previous games instead of a crossbow?)

Well, I was bitching about how there wasn't a relic crossbow...

[fantasticdan]

I know it doesn't pertain to the immediate topic but I thought this was worth sharing, though probably not worth its own thread. When I opened up POLUtils to verify that Killer Bow is in fact a crossbow (it is, by the way), I noticed that there were four weapons added in the last update, with their names removed but everything else intact, all appearing to have maneater-type latent effects and corresponding to weaponskills for which no such weapon is available from ENM or IS.

Staff: D60 Del399, Latent: D66, Lv73 MNK WHM PLD DRG
Great Axe: D91 Del504, Latent: D96, Lv73 WAR DRK
Marksmanship: D35 Del288, Latent: D39, Lv73 WAR THF DRK RNG
Katana: D27 Del190, Latent: D32, Lv73 NIN

Those are probably more perdu items, the CS rank sanction items that all had maneater latents and are level 73. There were four released last update (sword, bow, club, scythe), so I would guess the four above would be the next rank of sanction items.

[Therin]

I know it doesn't pertain to the immediate topic but I thought this was worth sharing, though probably not worth its own thread. When I opened up POLUtils to verify that Killer Bow is in fact a crossbow (it is, by the way), I noticed that there were four weapons added in the last update, with their names removed but everything else intact, all appearing to have maneater-type latent effects and corresponding to weaponskills for which no such weapon is available from ENM or IS.

Staff: D60 Del399, Latent: D66, Lv73 MNK WHM PLD DRG
Great Axe: D91 Del504, Latent: D96, Lv73 WAR DRK
Marksmanship: D35 Del288, Latent: D39, Lv73 WAR THF DRK RNG
Katana: D27 Del190, Latent: D32, Lv73 NIN

Those are probably more perdu items, the CS rank sanction items that all had maneater latents and are level 73. There were four released last update (sword, bow, club, scythe), so I would guess the four above would be the next rank of sanction items.

If that katana has a Maneater latent it will be fucking INSANE.

[TT]

+5acc +15att on such a low delay katana will be so amazing. (goodbye unji)

guess i gotta work on rank ups just in case, but nyzul isle owns so much of my tags.

[Vail]

I know it doesn't pertain to the immediate topic but I thought this was worth sharing, though probably not worth its own thread. When I opened up POLUtils to verify that Killer Bow is in fact a crossbow (it is, by the way), I noticed that there were four weapons added in the last update, with their names removed but everything else intact, all appearing to have maneater-type latent effects and corresponding to weaponskills for which no such weapon is available from ENM or IS.

Staff: D60 Del399, Latent: D66, Lv73 MNK WHM PLD DRG
Great Axe: D91 Del504, Latent: D96, Lv73 WAR DRK
Marksmanship: D35 Del288, Latent: D39, Lv73 WAR THF DRK RNG
Katana: D27 Del190, Latent: D32, Lv73 NIN

Those are probably more perdu items, the CS rank sanction items that all had maneater latents and are level 73. There were four released last update (sword, bow, club, scythe), so I would guess the four above would be the next rank of sanction items.

If that katana has a Maneater latent it will be fucking INSANE.

this would be super nice \('-'*) want!

I was already in awe of perdu wand on whm being simply amazing for whm burn PTs, but to get a katana like that for my NIN would just be <3

[Beckwin]

I think successful exits from Nyzul count as a point toward rank up?

[Viq]

I think successful exits from Nyzul count as a point toward rank up?

Just like other assaults: 5 points for the first exit, 1 point each additional exit.

[TT]

25 days/tags/winning runs just takes too long. currently S rank so i could just take 10 days and be CS then wait for update.

[Lyramion]

Katana: D27 Del190, Latent: D32, Lv73 NIN

Note: Sell Unshi and Unsho before next Ver Update

[Sagacious Sundi]

I personally think that since these are job-specific, they will be better than relic weapons, with the exception of the non-weapons. Which leads me to thinking that if these have hidden effects (which I don't think they will) maybe double axes give pets Double Attack +50%, double pet attributes, double Charm rate, double amount of pets charmable (lol), or double called beasts' durations (gave random ideas to get the point across that its effect might be more pet-oriented, doubt the names have to do with anything) and that these are not like relic weapons where the focus is on melee attacks (with the exception of more melee-oriented jobs).

EDIT: Maybe it allows the BST dream to come true and to charm everything non-NM.

[Spira]

im so glad that theres a discussion on this because im absolutely positive that there's gotta be something hidden about these damn JSE weapons..

oh i think u made a typo..

Wightslayer - ワイトスレイヤー - Wightslayer
Sword Ｄ41 Delay 236
Lv75 BLU
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FF3 (ワイトスレイヤー only) - Weak sword, did high damage to undead. An oddly exclusive sword however, available to Blue Mage? and Red Mage.

Blue Mages didn't exist till FF5.

I really don't think you require the Key to activate the hidden effect from the weapon since probably anyone could lot that from the party.. Having the correct job itself would be a rather specific trigger.. though there probably is something else to it..

are we looking more towards... how to activate the hidden effect in the weapon with the job..

or perhaps we agree that its just a dud but needs some form of trading/upgrading?

[Eltia]

Random thoughts to contribute: has anyone tried using these weapons with full AF, AF+1, AF2 or AF2+1 equipped? Or to "combine" them with the useless AF1 weapons? (No idea how to combine them; but you get the idea, right? )

[Elmer the Pointy]

oh i think u made a typo..

Wightslayer - ワイトスレイヤー - Wightslayer
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FF3 (ワイトスレイヤー only) - Weak sword, did high damage to undead. An oddly exclusive sword however, available to Blue Mage? and Red Mage.

You're right no Blue Mages. I researched it again and got confused this time because I didn't realize DS added a Freelancer class, which caused a discrepancy among different sites. So it turns out it was really a RDM sword.

[Eratosthenes]

I really don't think you require the Key to activate the hidden effect from the weapon since probably anyone could lot that from the party..

But that's the exact reason I believe it does require the key item. Someone goes up to floor 100 and erases their disk, and somebody else (whose own disk may not even be level 6) gets a potentially amazing weapon? That doesn't seem fair.

[BRP]

Um, hmm, to my knowledge only two of these have dropped so far. BST and MNK. And both times they were "equip-able" by a party member. Is it possible that only weapons you can equip will drop?

[Metah]

Um, hmm, to my knowledge only two of these have dropped so far. BST and MNK. And both times they were "equip-able" by a party member. Is it possible that only weapons you can equip will drop?

Its possible but 2 drops isn't enough to say 100%, obviously