Nyzul Weapon Discussion

[vagus]

congrats onthe axe, now lets see some testing! Also, some information on the disc would be nice. Does it get erased?

[Septimus]

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That is possibly the best name for a Galka ever.

[Millael]

Simple question: Did Louferigno get the key item, or was someone else's disk erased?

Kainomega was the one whose disc we used to clear 100, so he was the one who got the key item.

[SephYuyX]

Wth did Lou join EC >.>

[Judai]

I doubt SE would code it to read who has what jobs at 75 and drop only one of those.

Can you be sure though?
It seems possible, at least, and with this it's becoming more plausible.

I'm not sure how it would be possible. Just seems like coincidence, seeing as like I said before most groups probably have 6 people with multiple 75s. I'm sure if these two groups looked they probably are just like mine and have most jobs covered.

Whats more likely?

SE coded it to scan 6 players on entry of the floor or defeat of the NM to see who has what at 75 and drop only one of those weapons?

or

The groups have most 75s covered and are getting lucky?

[OmegaKnight]

Wth did Lou join EC >.>

A while ago lol

[Viq]

I doubt SE would code it to read who has what jobs at 75 and drop only one of those.

Can you be sure though?
It seems possible, at least, and with this it's becoming more plausible.

I'm not sure how it would be possible. Just seems like coincidence, seeing as like I said before most groups probably have 6 people with multiple 75s. I'm sure if these two groups looked they probably are just like mine and have most jobs covered.

Whats more likely?

SE coded it to scan 6 players on entry of the floor or defeat of the NM to see who has what at 75 and drop only one of those weapons?

or

The groups have most 75s covered and are getting lucky?

Maybe my group is an anomoly with only 8 jobs covered at 75 between the six of us (WAR NIN DRK PLD BRD WHM RDM THF). I'm certainly hoping that SE added some way to scan available jobs, as unlikely as it may be.

[Feielle]

Man, someone is going to be pissed when they get to floor 100 and a set of PUP claws drop.

Further, I really hope SE realizes that weapons =/= melee damage for every job. Claustrum is a bloody joke. Make the BLM one USEFUL for BLMs. Same goes for SMN.

[Lindstrom]

Further, I really hope SE realizes that weapons =/= melee damage for every job. Claustrum is a bloody joke. Make the BLM one USEFUL for BLMs. Same goes for SMN.

Would've been neater if they made relic spells and a summon or something, maybe cost less currency I spose.

[BRP]

If they gave Relic Staff the same effect as all the HQ Elemental Staves, I'm sure it would be enough to make any BLM or SMN happy. If they were really nice, they would put 10% Cure Potency on the Club.

[Siatdiat]

If they gave Relic Staff the same effect as all the HQ Elemental Staves, I'm sure it would be enough to make any BLM or SMN happy. If they were really nice, they would put 10% Cure Potency on the Club.

What does that entail? It would have the effect of all 8 staves? So, it would have the damage increase, and also the hmp of a dark staff and the cure potency of a light staff, and the price comparison of those 8 staves hq in comparison is worth it? Ok.

[Linsivi]

If they gave Relic Staff the same effect as all the HQ Elemental Staves, I'm sure it would be enough to make any BLM or SMN happy. If they were really nice, they would put 10% Cure Potency on the Club.

What does that entail? It would have the effect of all 8 staves? So, it would have the damage increase, and also the hmp of a dark staff and the cure potency of a light staff, and the price comparison of those 8 staves hq in comparison is worth it? Ok.

Not a day goes by where I am not thankful for the 10 inventory slots freed up by Gjallarhorn.

[shieldsofwindurst]

If they gave Relic Staff the same effect as all the HQ Elemental Staves, I'm sure it would be enough to make any BLM or SMN happy. If they were really nice, they would put 10% Cure Potency on the Club.

What does that entail? It would have the effect of all 8 staves? So, it would have the damage increase, and also the hmp of a dark staff and the cure potency of a light staff, and the price comparison of those 8 staves hq in comparison is worth it? Ok.

I hope you're being serious, because if you're being sarcastic, then you're totally missing the point. Money is not the issue here. The single limiting factor to blms at this point in the game is inventory space.

If the claustrum functioned as a 100% replacement for all HQ staves, it would save us 7 spots for more gear, which is a monumental godsend for career blms.

Even if all it did was the 15% on the 6 primary nuking elements, that would still be a godsend, because most people would only keep the dark/pluto's around for healing, thus saving us 6 spots.

Even if it only replaced NQ staves (10%) on the 6 primary elements, I would still get it and save room on the fire, wind, earth, and water HQs, keeping my apollos & aquillos.

Bottom line, smns have a dragons/bahamut's staff to sidegrade from HQs. Blms do not, we need one, and that was the primary hope for the claustrum. It didn't turn out that way, and we're bitter.

[Feielle]

If they gave Relic Staff the same effect as all the HQ Elemental Staves, I'm sure it would be enough to make any BLM or SMN happy. If they were really nice, they would put 10% Cure Potency on the Club.

What does that entail? It would have the effect of all 8 staves? So, it would have the damage increase, and also the hmp of a dark staff and the cure potency of a light staff, and the price comparison of those 8 staves hq in comparison is worth it? Ok.

If it gave me the same damage modifier as my normal 6 Elemental Staves (i'm not counting Dark or Light here) I'd be happy. Shit, I'd be estatic. I'll lug around 3 sticks as opposed to 8, no problem.

Although, a blanket "Magic ATK +10 (15?)" would be fine, too. Hell, they could make it +10 on normal days, and +15 on days of the element you're casting. You know how SE loves nonsense like that.

I can deal without the other random effects the ele staves give (Water's +MND, Earth's damage reduction, et al) since they're not of particular use to BLMs anyways. HMP+10 is awesome, and I'd carry my darkstaff around for that alone.

I'm guessing the reason they didn't give BLM a club as with the AF weapons is due to the game-breaking effect it would have when dual-wielded as BLM/NIN with a Seveneyes...

Oh, i'm SO freaking serious.

[Septimus]

Although, a blanket "Magic ATK +10 (15?)" would be fine, too. Hell, they could make it +10 on normal days, and +15 on days of the element you're casting. You know how SE loves nonsense like that.

Nope, you will have to carry 9 staves now, because you will get -10% on the days strong to the element you are casting.

Come on, I can see it coming from a mile away.

[Feielle]

Although, a blanket "Magic ATK +10 (15?)" would be fine, too. Hell, they could make it +10 on normal days, and +15 on days of the element you're casting. You know how SE loves nonsense like that.

Nope, you will have to carry 9 staves now, because you will get -10% on the days strong to the element you are casting.

Come on, I can see it coming from a mile away.

Great. They read that, and now we're screwed.

"But wait!" they'll say "Just go get all your Sea Obis, and carry THOSE around to counteract the -10! Oh, dont forget your AF2 pants! There's -5 more inventory space!"

[Not Kuno]

Why isnt there a super-obi you can get when you get all 8 to combine them? >.<

[Evelyn]

PS2 limitations.

[BRP]

If it was only +15% Elemental Spell Bonus and -3 Perp Rate, it still would be okay. I mean, whats a Relic + NQ Dark Staff(and maybe a HQ Ice Staff or Light Staff)? 2 Slots instead of 7 or 8. At least it'll help the staff AH flood a little.

I too agree that you should be able to combine Obis through the "In the Name of Science" quest ;/.

Maybe we are getting a bit off-topic here...

[Spoony Bob]

Even if it only replaced NQ staves (10%) on the 6 primary elements, I would still get it and save room on the fire, wind, earth, and water HQs, keeping my apollos & aquillos.

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