incest

[Zigma]

http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.html

However high the rates of childhood molestation may turn out to be in contemporary Western countries, the incidence in countries outside the West is likely to be much higher. Because they have only recently moved beyond what I have termed the infanticidal mode of chiidrearing, whereby as much as half of the children born were killed by their parents,(89) the use of children for the emotional needs of adults is far more accepted, an attitude that fosters widespread incestuous acts along with other child abuse. Although the evidence is scattered and much remains hidden, enough exists to indicate the dimensions of what eventual scholarship will probably uncover.

Childhood in much of India begins with the young child being regularly masturbated by the mother, "high caste or low caste, the girl 'to make her sleep well,' the boy 'to make him manly..."' This practice has been said to be widespread by many reliable observers, including Catherine Mayo - whose extensive investigations in India in the 1920s led to the first child marriage laws(90) - a physician,(91) an ethnologist,(92) a religious scholar (93) and a sociologist.(94) As is the case with virtually all non-Western cultures, the child sleeps in the family bed for several years and regularly observes sexual intercourse between the parents. The extent to which Indian parents go beyond this and overtly have sex with the child cannot be determined. Rampal, the sociologist who recently did interviews modeled on the Kinsey studies about contemporary Indian sexual practices, concludes that "there is a lot of incest...It is hidden along with other secrets of families and rarely gets a chance to come out, like seduction at the hands of trusted friends of the family... To arrive at even a passable estimate of incest cases would be to touch the hornet's nest.. no one will ever confess to such a deed, therefore, any attempt to collect statistics may prove to be futile at present."(95)

One of the most endogenous societies in the world, Japan has approved of incestuous marriages in court circles even in historical times.(152) Preferred sibling, cousin, uncle-niece and aunt-nephew marriages have been so extensive that genetics experts have discovered that the inbreeding has affected their size and health.(153) How often this incestuous marriage system occurred in traditional Japan is still largely unexplored. One indication of what is likely to be found is a 1959 study by Kubo showing that there were still rural areas in Japan where fathers married their daughters when the mother had died or was incapacitated, "in accordance with feudal family traditions.(154) Kubo concluded that incest was considered "praiseworthy conduct" in many traditional rural families. In the 36 incest cases he studied in Hiroshima, he found that there was often community moral disapproval of the families who lived in open incestuous marriages, but that the participants themselves did not think of it as immoral. In fact, when the father was unavailable to head the family, his son often took over his role and had sex with his sister in order "to end confusion in the order of the home." Other members of the family accepted this incest as normal.

In traditional Japan, quite young girls were introduced into sex by older boys who visited their bedrooms at night with the complicity of the girl's parents (called night-prowling, yobai). The boys "assembled in communal huts and instructed slightly younger village males in sex approaches and techniques..." Although they recommended "gentle persuasion,"(155) there was no guarantee that all was so gentle in fact, since the parents "looked the other way" in accordance with custom while the older boys had intercourse with their young daughters.

Western observers even today often notice that Japanese mothers still masturbate their young children during the day in public and at night in the family bed - in order, they say, "to put them to sleep."(156) The average Japanese today sleeps with his or her children until the children are ten or fifteen years old,"(157) - one recent Japanese study found daughters still sleeping with their fathers over 20 percent of the time even after age sixteen.(158) Even when the home contains a dozen rooms or more, parents and grandparents feel "lonely" if they sleep apart from
the children in the family, and therefore go to bed with some child every night (the mean age in one study of children sleeping alone is 12.7 years).(159) Since so many families still practice what is termed dakine co-sleeping - with the parent or grandparent sleeping while physically embracing the child, a practice said to be beneficial to the health of the adult"(160) - and since most Japanese parents still regularly have sexual in-tercourse while the child is in bed with them,(161) one wonders how scholars can continue to maintain that nothing sexual usually happens to the Japanese child in the family bed, particularly since none have yet ask-ed the children themselves about their sexual experiences.

The sexual use of children in the Middle East is probably as widespread as in the Far East.(172) Historically, all the institutionalized forms of pedophilia that were customary in the Far East are extensively documented for the Middle East during its earlier infanticidal childrearmg mode, including child marriage, child concubinage, temple prostitution of both boys and girls, parent-child marriage (among the Zoroastrians), sibling marriage (among the Egyptians, among both royalty and commoners), sex slavery, ritualized pederasty, eunichism, and widespread child prostitution. Furthermore, as in India, there are parts of the Middle East where customs from earlier times have been maintained intact, so that more detail is available than is usually preserv-ed in historical documents.

In the oasis of Siwa, for instance, mothers regularly give their boys to older men for sexual use, both related and outside the family, and fathers regularly lend their young sons to each other, similar to the Central Asian Islarnic tradition of bacaboz, where most fathers trade their sons with others for sexual use.(173) Pederastic marriages and pederastic prostitution have been so widespread in Siwa until just recently that everyone is accustomed to the proposition that men normally love boys more than they do women, saying: "They will kill each other for a boy. Never for a woman."(174) Muslim holy men (imaam) regularly have boys available for sex, saying the ingestion of the imaam's semen is necessary for absorbing his spiritual powers, sometimes even extending to formal marriage with the boy.

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[Lynsy]

And?

This really isn't surprising, the majority of trauma that arises from child/adult sexual encounters is not from the encounter itself, but socially inflicted trauma. Being forced to keep secrets, threatened if they don't and told all of their life they are a victim for it is what fucks kids up far more so than the act.

[Odon]

Wow.

Just wow..

[Zigma]

And?

This really isn't surprising, the majority of trauma that arises from child/adult sexual encounters is not from the encounter itself, but socially inflicted trauma. Being forced to keep secrets, threatened if they don't and told all of their life they are a victim for it is what fucks kids up far more so than the act.

And? dude, it's fucking sick and new to me.

[Sefier]

"YOU COULDA AVOIDED THIS BUT NO, NOW YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS THAT YOU CANT WASH OFF"

[Odon]

"YOU COULDA AVOIDED THIS BUT NO, NOW YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS THAT YOU CANT WASH OFF"

Too soon man, too soon.


















NOT.

[Zigma]

lemme change the thread title

[Lynsy]

And? dude, it's fucking sick and new to me.

"Fucking sick" is based on a social normalization. They are not harming the children, the relations are consensual and pleasurable for them. I personally wouldn't, and while I think there is a lot of potential for abuse, I don't believe it is inherently abusive. We as a society need to stop being so afraid of childhood sexuality...They have it, they enjoy it, they pursue it...A lifetime of guilt about it isn't healthy for anyone.

[Minions]

Jesus...

[Zigma]

And? dude, it's fucking sick and new to me.

"Fucking sick" is based on a social normalization. They are not harming the children, the relations are consensual and pleasurable for them. I personally wouldn't, and while I think there is a lot of potential for abuse, I don't believe it is inherently abusive. We as a society need to stop being so afraid of childhood sexuality...They have it, they enjoy it, they pursue it...A lifetime of guilt about it isn't healthy for anyone.

Valid point

[Elmer the Pointy]

Yeah, I wouldn't really take any of that at face value.

At first glance it sounded ridiculous to me, so I asked some friends and they were like "WTF is that guy talking about."

Most likely he focuses on extreme conditions like way rural or very poor families and skews the data to make it seem like something it's not.

EDIT: Also notice how he always starts with facts about adults having intercourse but then has to tag on "maybe the kids get banged too!" with no evidence.

[Quicklet]

What is it with you and finding the most deviant papers/videos possible? lol...

[Kaylia]

The 3rd article is the one I thought was really creepy. Other 2 are wtf, but 3rd really does sound like an abuse >_>

[arlania]

And?

This really isn't surprising, the majority of trauma that arises from child/adult sexual encounters is not from the encounter itself, but socially inflicted trauma. Being forced to keep secrets, threatened if they don't and told all of their life they are a victim for it is what fucks kids up far more so than the act.

And? dude, it's fucking sick and new to me.

It's fucking sick and new to you only because our society looks down upon it so much. Im sure if you were brought up in a society such as these it would be nothing big to you at all. Who are we to judge?

[Rammses]

Sounds like a bullshit report to me, the way it's written. Need more sources.

[theo]

So if anybody ever asks you "what the hell is wrong with you?!" Just respond with "I'm sorry, my mother didn't masturbate me enough as a child "

[Faris]

its bullshit, lol.

this dude, just prbably stumbled upon some cases that happen to be from those society, and he generalized it, as a whole societies. I have many MANY Indian friends, not one of them ever mentioned anything like that.

and being a muslim, i am 101% sure that the third article is just utter horse shit. Seriously, haha, what the fuck is this shit, lol.

[careswww]

Why would you mention the fact that your moms masturbated you?
In front of your friends on top of that

[Lynsy]

Why would you mention the fact that your moms masturbated you?
In front of your friends on top of that

Obviously, his mom is a MILF and he wants to make them jealous.

[Faris]

Why would you mention the fact that your moms masturbated you?
In front of your friends on top of that

Obviously, his mom is a MILF and he wants to make them jealous.

Duh..

But on a serious note, UAE's population consists mostly of indians and pakistanis, so i think such behaviour will be acknowledged in our society if it did exist.