Oh noes I can't use teh paralyna!Originally Posted by thestalkmore
Oh noes I can't use teh paralyna!Originally Posted by thestalkmore
Or viruna, or curaga, or divine seal. Seriously, even though I sub RDM for 90% of the things I attend, having WHM is something that someone who has a fucking genie weskit and novio earring should be able to list. It's being versatile, don't call yourself a "career BLM" if you are too stubborn to truly achieve your job's maximum potential.Originally Posted by Kerberoz
QFT for all jobsOriginally Posted by thestalkmore
Seriously, you can level it, or you can accept the fact that you're gimping yourself by not levelling it, but you can't have it both ways, it's stupid to try to justify it.Originally Posted by Kerberoz
I don't know about you, but if you want a Cure from my BLM you're getting nothing by lulz. I don't even bring Light Staff to events anymore. /WHM on BLM to me is useless if you got SMN, WHM RDM/WHM out the ass at events...
Ah-hah, here's the thing. In Salvage you can't have healers out the ass. In CoP Dynamis you can't have healers out the ass, in many BCs you can't, in Assaults you can't.Originally Posted by OmegaKnight
Oh, and let's not forget the fact that not everyone that plays is in a 50-man HNMLS.
And Kerberoz, you're about as bad as Rambus is with /smn with your devotion to /rdm only.
How did this get to be about subjobs... Blm/Whm for the best damned travel (not counting OPs >.>) around! Seriously though not having all your subjobs leveled for any of your main's is just a bit... foolish.
If you are a compulsive overnuking Blm then Ethereal would help you get enough mp to cast Drain and die in one less hit!
Honestly I do like these sorts of topics even if they do seem to have no point. Hearing the pros and cons of these items from people who have used them can help bring further insight into how something could be useful for an individual.
mindset in most endgame activities:
/WHM = "I care about supporting my linkshell with cures and status remedies. If we get hit by wing, I won't hesitate to throw a Curaga to help keep HP up. Of course I can still nuke, but I'm a team player. I recognize that the sum of the group's efforts, rather than my own, win the fight."
/RDM = "My e-cock grows mightier with every point of INT I merit. I still get cures, but that's only for healing MYSELF up when I pull aggro. I might consider tossing a cure when all the whms are dead and the tank's in red, but don't fucking count on it lol. I preserve the DIGNITY of blm! BLM isnt a healer!"
You neglected one small detail in that NOBODY MBs ANYMOREStatic is actually better damage than Novio on MB (it's roughly equivalent to an earring with MAB+8~9 for a BLM with the gear you and I have), and even if it wasn't it'd be replacing your moldavite for the cast, not your Novio. This isn't to say I think you should get one or that you're dumb if you don't, just clearing up the facts.
Is it bad I want to MB ;/?
I'd like to see how a fully merited Burst II or Freeze II does with Relic Hands and Earring, ought to be a lot of fun.
PS. What Mifaco said about subs is stupid.
PS 2. Kerbz or whatever, there is difference from being "stupid" and "stupid and arrogant".
See, I can accuse you of being stupid for not having /WHM leveled. You can say I'm wrong and we disagree.
Now you refuse to level /WHM just shows you are arrogant. Stupid and arrogant.
Holy shit lol.Originally Posted by Mifaco
Your melees don't SC at fafnir and you throw curagas... why not just buy some kneepads while you're at it?Originally Posted by Mifaco
It was an example of why WHM would be better than RDM in such a situation. You could replace WHM with Ultima's equalizer or whatever, my point still stands.Originally Posted by Kerberoz
Did I say I only throw curagas? No, I nuke too, but the end result is that I'm supporting my linkshell more effectively.
OH HEY ISNT IT IRONIC HOW MY /RDM DESCRIPTION PERFECTLY DESCRIBES YOUR MINDSET
On Topic:
Don't remember the last time I really MB'd other then Kirin and usually I am nuking more w/o SCs then with anyways. Therefore Static sucks for me. Magnetci would be a better choice for my BLM but my BLM doesn't need a semi-meh earring.
I am oing to get Ethereal as it fits almost every job I havein some way. +Atk and Eva for my Melee(MNK,SAM,upcoming WAR) and it's omg amazing for my main, PLD and will be solid for my eventual NIN.
Basically, look at the jobs you have or want to level and decide if one of the random three earrings will fit into the occasional purposes they fit. If not, Ethereal is the one that is very broad and covers many situations.
Off Topic: BLM subs.
Don't remember the last time I subbed WHM as BLM. Most times I am more of a help at events with /RDM and some other BLM usually has WHM. If the Healers can't handle Cures and ~nas, then something is wrong. I understand if it is a small group however, just pointing out it is a situational sub. More often then not, me Graving something helps more and I can't tell you how mant times having extra Fast Cast has saved lives with sleeps or nukes.
/WHM is good to have but it's really just situational.
Off Topic: BLM subs.
Don't remember the last time I subbed RDM as BLM. Most times I am more of a help at events with /WHM and some other BLM usually has RDM. If the rdms can't handle gravs and dispels, then something is wrong. I understand if it is a small group however, just pointing out it is a situational sub. More often then not, me erasing and paralynaing people helps more and I can't tell you how many times having curaga has saved lives.
/RDM is good to have but it's really just situational.
No really, a good career blm will have both (and possibly even /nin as well) and bring the appropriate sub for a given situation.
I still haven't chosen either. I'll most likely get etheral but I was hoping to hear from nin/drk experience with etheral and how often they got mp back with it. I guess etheral would also be decent for DoT on 2h weapon jobs paired with brutal.
I laughed as well, however that's a damn good summation of every BLM I knew. Mifaco can you do one of those for /SMN please ?? :DOriginally Posted by thestalkmore
Whenever I do something like Limbus with a small group, what I sub as a BLM is based if we have a WHM or RDM. If we don't have a RDM, we probably have a BRD, but I'll sub RDM for Gravity. Me subbing WHM probably wouldn't do much if we already have one and the group is small. Still, sometimes its nice to sub WHM to teleport people to the said Limbus area.
/WHM vs /RDM is such a stupid debate. It's almost as stupid as someone refusing to level one of them.
EDIT: Oh, uh, yeah, Off-topic: BLM Subs.
I got a magnetic earring for my redmage and I havn't really regretted my choice. I was tempted to get the static earing for the +2mnd cause I didn't want to pay 2mil for the buyable earing w/ +2 mnd.
For my second char I ended up getting ethereal. I only had Warrior and Corsair leveled on it so none of the earings were really that great... I waited probably 4 months after I finished the quest actually get the earring, and I havn't used it since I got it.
Hollow wouldn't be to bad for THF, but the other jobs the apoc nigh earings arnt that great for. Ethereal might be good for blu but I'm not very familiar w/ what bluemages earring choices are.Originally Posted by Slayzer
I hate to say it, but I haven't touched my WHM sub since I got RDM to 37. It is pretty useless for what I do. Unless I'm going to fight Vrtra or something where I need WHM sub spells, it's caca. I'd sooner sub BLU than WHM probably. >_>;
Magic damage bonus on a burst vs MP+20 and Conserve MP. I rarely see conserve MP go off. MP+20 is meh, HMP+1 is nice, but helo thar relaxing earring.
mindset in most endgame activities:
/WHM = "I care about supporting my linkshell with cures and status remedies. If we get hit by wing, I won't hesitate to throw a Curaga to help keep HP up. Of course I can still nuke, but I'm a team player. I recognize that the sum of the group's efforts, rather than my own, win the fight."
/RDM = "My e-cock grows mightier with every point of INT I merit. I still get cures, but that's only for healing MYSELF up when I pull aggro. I might consider tossing a cure when all the whms are dead and the tank's in red, but don't fucking count on it lol. I preserve the DIGNITY of blm! BLM isnt a healer!"
QFT. This absolutely sums up how some BLM players have acted in my experience. It frustrates me in the extreme. There are not many events where we call for particular subs but when we do I always have whining BLMs on my hands. Never anyone else - just freaking BLMs.
I'm a SMN, WHM and BRD so yeah, I'm biased to healing/support capabilities. I'm levelling BLM right now, solo mostly with /NIN. My RDM is levelling with it for a sub but only because I want it for soloing.
Timed nuke headaches with mixed BLM sub teams aren't fun in certain situs either.
Oh and I chose Magnetic. I have MP hungry jobs, I like earrings that give you lots of shinies at once and I actually notice the spell interrupt on SMN!
If I had serious intentions of levelling PLD I'd go with ethereal. I want Suppa and rarely ever use it, went Tamas and Magnetic and rarely don't.