Apoc Nigh Earrings

[Suiram]

The only good these static vs. magnetic threads do is to show what posters can't see past their own choices and realize that different LSs kill things different ways, different players use their BLM for different kinds of events, and that for this reason different earrings are better suited for different players. You always get at least one of these idiots from both sides of the debate.

As for the subjob thing, it's the same thing lol. You have people who can't see the benefit of going /rdm ever period, and you have people who can't see why you'd ever want anything other than /rdm. Both of them are foolish because RDM is the *best sub* for BLM for a number of events, but then again there are times when it is not. Anyone who wants to be the best at their job in the broader sense is going to A. have those two (and like aurik said, probably NIN too) available, and know the times it's most appropriate to use one or the other, and to know the times when it doesn't really matter and they can sub whatever they feel like--at least they have versatility when it counts. I'm reminded of a former LS member who used to mock blm/rdms who came to Aery by saying "Hey, all right! We got dispel and gravity for Fafnir."

[Hapernack]

If he's 100% right almost all the time, then why is he run off the forums practically every time he makes a post?

Because he says it wrong. He gets it mostly I'd guess from the Alla forums where basically he and I have to be complete asswipes just to stop all the recurring stupid questions.

EVERY week we have a new "PLACES TEW SORO" or "MB VS INT" or "HOW DEW AI MAEK T3H GILZ?!" or "KEN AI SORO DIS?" thread that sucks up the BLM forums and makes it a joke area because people can't even check beyond the first 10 threads in the section. His posting mentality probably stems from his and my constant need to basically put these threads down by linking a previous thread and then calling them a Fucking Dumbass n00b straight-up.

/whm has its uses but in 6 years of being a BLM, I've just found sticking to /rdm and then changing to /whm only upon special request to be best. Yeah I have all my subs (except NIN which is a few levels behind but who cares...) and I always have but that still doesn't mean I use half of them. /whm should be treated like what it is though, an option, not a necessity. Not to mention if you're a taru did you know /whm and /rdm are like 30-40 HP in difference? Plus that extra HP affects your stoneskin's strength and the additional phalanx spell can really help in survival. I seriously can't remember the last time my shellmates were so helpless and incapable of doing their jobs that the WHMs and RDMs and SMNs present needed us to go /whm to assist instead of dealing damage...

[Volken]

Can someone bash ethereal? I'm lvling pld now but I picked Magnetic (I go RDM to pretty much everything) HERP I'm getting bushinomimi flashbacks

[Stellar]

I play rdm and leveled pld after choosing magnetic... If I could change to Ethereal i'm not sure if I would or not. I suppose so, since magnetic isn't really amazing, but I don't really miss Ethereal at all. I typically use my pld for HNM tanking only.. (Cerberus, Khimaira, Fafnir, etc..) and usually always have rdm and brd in the tank party. I so rarely have an issue with MP and in the rare circumstance I do, I have both Chivalry and the whm's devotion to help out. I also don't take a whole lot of damage as pld/nin and wonder if it would even be worth using over something like hades +1 for the additional enmity. For a pld main who uses /war a fair amount, obviously the earring would have its benefits..

[Ryko]

Can someone bash ethereal? I'm lvling pld now but I picked Magnetic (I go RDM to pretty much everything) HERP I'm getting bushinomimi flashbacks

Nope, you're fucked :/

Bushinomimi: Ultimate earring of shame.

[Kazen]

Can someone bash ethereal? I'm lvling pld now but I picked Magnetic (I go RDM to pretty much everything) HERP I'm getting bushinomimi flashbacks

No but at least with magnetic you can macro it in for cures to save yourself some mp at times.

[Vail]

Can someone bash ethereal? I'm lvling pld now but I picked Magnetic (I go RDM to pretty much everything) HERP I'm getting bushinomimi flashbacks

to comment to this: a JP player on siren just finished Aegis and he has Magnetic earring, I asked him about it, cause he picked magnetic earring knowing he was making aegis. He told me basicly he feels that he doesn't take enouogh damage for etherial to be dependable, and that he uses MP so much that he feels the conserve MP will save him more MP then 3% damage convert to mp will give him over-time.

Depending on the setup and skill of the tanks invovled on a HNM, you could verywell go along time without taking damage with the use of /nin

Here we go: my attempt to figure out the MP savings of magnetic earring of the MP you spend: magnetic earring (in theory) allows conserve MP to proc with a 5% chance. the savings for the spell cure IV (taking the average of the eight 1/16th values that conserve MP can produce) comes out to average -24.5mp off cure IV, that procs 5% of the time yields a 1.225 mp on average from every cast.

88mp compared to 86.775mp is 2.4% MP saved from any and all MP use. Where etherial gives you 3% MP as your MP isn't full(which it can be)

also etherial's 3% isn't always 3% since the MP return is 1mp per 33.33 damage (appx) so there are alot of values of damage taken where you are not gonna get a full 1mp and overall it's not gonna give you 3% exactly it will fall most likely between 2.5-3%MP (don't think I wanna crunch the math on this one)

I'm not saying which is better: this post was made to show that a magentic earring could very well over time produce similiar effects compared to a etherial earring.

[Kyreth]

Not to mention if you're a taru did you know /whm and /rdm are like 30-40 HP in difference? Plus that extra HP affects your stoneskin's strength and the additional phalanx spell can really help in survival. I seriously can't remember the last time my shellmates were so helpless and incapable of doing their jobs that the WHMs and RDMs and SMNs present needed us to go /whm to assist instead of dealing damage...

Stoneskin strength has nothing to do with current/max HP, although Phalanx certainly can extend it's lifespan. +MND/Enhancing skill gear is your friend there.

[Vail]

the difference for a taru blm with /whm or /rdm when main is lv75 and sub is lv37 is 18hp (in favor of /rdm) not 30-40

in fact: that's the difference for any race or any main job: the difference of /whm and /rdm is 18hp regardless (at 75/37)

source: http://www.datasync.com/~dsmith/FFXIStats/

[SephYuyX]

I used /whm all the way up to 75, but have been using /rdm ever since. I use /whm sometimes when I solo certian things, its nice to have RR and -nas. I still think /rdm is superior though. The biggest reason I use /rdm is for fast cast of course, I rarely ever use phalanx and grav is pretty pointless unless im solo. There are usually enough people at events that have whm /whm so ive never had to be forced /whm.

How can people not effectivly use sorc ring? 1) you dont need to be yellow for the latent to kick in, so theres no problem with undead, etc. 2) as stated, you shouldnt use the thing unless you have a macro that can kick in the latent, its just pointless. 3) So I lose about 250hp, ok? I still have more than a taru blm, plus if the person is smart theyll have 4 buffs on anyway.

I've probably subbed BST and other subs more than I have WHM in the past 5 years. I thinks its foolish not to have it lvld, but meh, not like it will effect anything if 1 BLM is /whm, if it does you need to work out a better setup.

[Hapernack]

Bottom line if you die a lot from using a Sorc ring, then you're not skilled enough to deserve to use one in anything other than a simple manaburn.

I almost never die anymore (I used to a lot) on HNMs/Dynamis before I learned how to control as much as I could. Now I'm a lot smarter about where I use things and how I use things. If you find yourself having the "death records" at dynamis and such, it doesn't mean you were active, it means you don't know how to play your job. Now I've had my share of glitch-deaths but no longer do things like Sorc Ring hold me back without having at least Phalanx/SS/Blink up.

[Xanthu]

If you find yourself having the "death records" at dynamis and such, it doesn't mean you were active, it means you don't know how to play your job.

I know this....but I still can't stop myself in Manaburn

[Hapernack]

If you find yourself having the "death records" at dynamis and such, it doesn't mean you were active, it means you don't know how to play your job.

I know this....but I still can't stop myself in Manaburn

That's different, we're allowed to be stupid there.