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    Quote Originally Posted by bercus
    2.8B= 2.800.000.000 Gil on all Servers.
    We have like 30~ Servers, let´s say 28 to make it easy.
    2.800.000.000/28 = 100.000.000
    Thats 100 Million per Server. That is still a shitload of gil.
    Let´s look at this closer.

    /em types ige.com

    1 Million costs arround $33.87.

    That is a loss for IGE, IGXE, MOGS whatever fucking company in numbers (not counting the $ they paid the RMT):

    All Servers : $33.87*2800 = 94,836 $
    For each Server that is $33.87*100 = 3387 $

    Not that bad still, even though it was in the past more like 500.000$+ loss.

    For my company I would get really hurt to lose arround 100k in $.

    you can add that every 1mil sold, there is about 20~30% of gil back into ige hands.

    assume 20% of gil will going back to ige everytime they sell a 1mil gil and etc. Then 20% of gil will bought by gilbuyer again then repeat again.

    The gil that generate(or generate should not be an appropriate term?) by the 2.8Bil will be about 0.7B. which total will be 3.5B. Cause about 118545usd lost to ige.

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    Banning should be a spectator sport I think.

    What exactly IS that Collesium being used for anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama
    Our friendly Rccmda of Unicorn is still hanging around Whitegate, shouting to sell "Haidate <abj> blahblahblah {Do you need it?}"
    please try to find out if anyone from any major hnmls got banned >_>

    Tactics, Pxtzle, Fortune, Wabo etc

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    two ways to make the now almost monthly bannings better:

    1. have moogles sell lottery tickets to redistribute all the "removed" gil. The sale of tickets would still remove the same amount, but damn it would be fun to hear on your LS "OMG I won!!!1!one! 23 million gil in my dbox from SE!"

    2. drop all banned accounts in random zones, making them targetable. If you happen to be in the same zone the moment they are dropped in, you receive a temporary version of the ability "Steal" and the banned accounts are attackable. Gear and Gil can be stolen.

    Its wednesday. I'm at work. And bored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celebrindor
    two ways to make the now almost monthly bannings better:

    1. have moogles sell lottery tickets to redistribute all the "removed" gil. The sale of tickets would still remove the same amount, but damn it would be fun to hear on your LS "OMG I won!!!1!one! 23 million gil in my dbox from SE!"

    2. drop all banned accounts in random zones, making them targetable. If you happen to be in the same zone the moment they are dropped in, you receive a temporary version of the ability "Steal" and the banned accounts are attackable. Gear and Gil can be stolen.

    Its wednesday. I'm at work. And bored.
    And so you want all the RMT to buy lotto tickets and get their banned gil back?

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    lol Burrich? SRSLY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    please try to find out if anyone from any major hnmls got banned >_>

    Tactics, Pxtzle, Fortune, Wabo etc
    Which hopefully didnt happen. Pain wiped to this, so I dont wish this to anyone else

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    Instead of banning they should enable those characters in Conflict mode w/ exp loss enabled for x amount of time. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizerdRemora
    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by bercus
    That is a loss for IGE, IGXE, MOGS whatever fucking company in numbers (not counting the $ they paid the RMT):

    All Servers : $33.87*2800 = 94,836 $
    For each Server that is $33.87*100 = 3387 $

    Not that bad still, even though it was in the past more like 500.000$+ loss.

    For my company I would get really hurt to lose arround 100k in $.
    I doubt IGE is losing any money. If there's less gil in the economy, they might pay more to the RMT. But they also raise the price.
    They lost millions of gil (assets), so they have to raise the price of the gil (their assets). This makes the gil less appealing to the player (assets too expensive for the consumer, less people buy). They're probably already past the balance point (between good asset pricing and retaining a large consumer base), so every time one of these bannings come up, they are probably losing at least a bit of money. The hope is that they eventually stop selling FFXI gil, but they are too damn persistant.
    the counterargument is that due to the increased value of gil, more Chinese shops will be willing to supply the good at the elevated price since there's more profit in it. let's think about it like the drug trade. if i assume that half of my cargo shipments will be lost but i can charge double for the shipments that do go through, then i still stand to make the same sum of money. this doesn't decrease the drug production, but rather increases it because you need more volume of product to make the same cash. since the actual production in this situation is the problem, increasing the market value of gil is not exactly helping the situation.

    a likely more effective way to attack the problem would be the confiscation of the gil from the player after they've payed IGE, possibly taking away more than was bought. the player places a higher value on the gil as well as their player than do the cgf. cgf can merely remake the chars. players have a lot more invested in them, and thus the threat of loss to the player is a greater concern. less buyers sends the price down on the gil which causes it to be less viable to produce. as such, less is produced and the cgf population will decline. this directly parallels the design behind the reduction of the drug trade wherein attention is payed to buyers with the intent of removing them from the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie
    lol Burrich? SRSLY?
    There are alot of people on that list that dont bot or RMT rofl, I dont know why: Tommyb, Burrich, Cocorico, Daniela, Drake, Katty, Pannthro, Royze, or Ungeheur are on there, unless you just did a /sea of a zone and wrote down all the names that came up? lol

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    Did Ungeheur sell his account to them also? He is kreig brother he was a good player. Ung wouldn't rmt unless it is not the real him. I'm afraid Hellscream and Xswift will never get banned

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    Don't Royze, Erza, and Enitsu post on this forum? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    Don't Royze, Erza, and Enitsu post on this forum? lol
    yes, yes, not really after he quit the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandorf
    Did Ungeheur sell his account to them also? He is kreig brother he was a good player. Ung wouldn't rmt unless it is not the real him. I'm afraid Hellscream and Xswift will never get banned
    no lol

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    I really hope Ingwe got the boot this time (fairy, if someone would be so kind to check for me). I love this ban stuff. Takes out gil sellers, gil buyers, hackers, and botters all in one day. More dmg than I could do to GS by annoying them.

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    Rmt on Odin still fishing for Angel Skin.

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    You're my angel vagus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawky
    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie
    lol Burrich? SRSLY?
    There are alot of people on that list that dont bot or RMT rofl, I dont know why: Tommyb, Burrich, Cocorico, Daniela, Drake, Katty, Pannthro, Royze, or Ungeheur are on there, unless you just did a /sea of a zone and wrote down all the names that came up? lol
    I believe thats Sists roster, not a list of suspect players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane
    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    please try to find out if anyone from any major hnmls got banned >_>

    Tactics, Pxtzle, Fortune, Wabo etc
    Which hopefully didnt happen. Pain wiped to this, so I dont wish this to anyone else
    Bugger that. If you take the risk and get hit with the banstick shit happens.

    I'd like to know who got hit (if any) on Unicorn too. I'll post here if I find anything Dezz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandorf
    Did Ungeheur sell his account to them also? He is kreig brother he was a good player. Ung wouldn't rmt unless it is not the real him. I'm afraid Hellscream and Xswift will never get banned
    People change, I don't know why people make these claims.

    I'd never of thought Ung be the type of person to join Sist once upon a time, as with many ppl, but they did.

    It's a game. You don't know them personally so you can't say he/she wouldn't do anything.

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